Tom Rockliff

[Adzman 2,085]

Rocky might not be coming to us, but I expect Brisbane to move him for whatever they can salvage if they don't have a deal on the table an hour out from the deadline.

Interested or not, deadline deals are what Mahoney does best! Slim to no chance he gets here, but Mahoney might be interested if the price softens. You just never know during the silly season.

[Pates 9,536]

I'm not 100% putting the pen through him just yet but for me it never felt likely, just a bit of chat and innuendo. Like Lewis at the start of this period he wasn't someone we were seeking out, but who knows things can change quite quickly.

[Dr evil 1,185]

Excellent Authority that Tom Rockcliff will be at one of three clubs next year.

1. The Brisbane Lions

2. Adelaide Crows (if the Gibbs deal falls through )

3. The Saints are/have been sniffing around.

He is simply not what the Melbourne footy club needs, if we were going to make a huge pass at an A grade player i'd be stocking up picks and $$$ for Josh Kelly when he comes out of contract next year, he fits our needs perfectly. 

Interesting that Gen Dee posted this rubbish yesterday, caused a stir and has now run away and hid in a hole somewhere. 

Jordan Lewis will offer us more than Rockcliff would have, he's a true leader with a fantastic footy brain and it doesn't cost us the world to get him, and he's still in my opinion our second best mid.

[Crompton's the man 635]

I don't have enough time left in my life to waste an equal amount reading a thread with as much substance as this one 

[Cheesy D. Pun 1,762]

12 hours ago, ProDee said:

There's no doubt they'd stake a claim and I usually preface my comments about our young group by excluding GWS, but I'm pretty comfortable where we sit against them.

Gawn is better than any under 25 ruck they have.

Hogan is at least the equivalent of Cameron as a key forward.  Cameron kicks more goals, but I prefer Hogan's forward play.  Lobb is a gun.  I see no reason Weideman won't become the equal of Patton on what I've seen.

The two McDonalds will be very good key defenders for a long time.  Losing Marchbank won't help them.

Oliver, Viney, Tyson, Brayshaw, Salem, Stretch, Hunt, Kent, and Petracca measure up against Shiel, Coniglio, Scully, Greene, Kelly, Whitfield, Smith, Williams, Wilson, and Haynes.

And a little birdy tells me that internally they rate Joel Smith the equal of Hunt, so watch this space in 2017.  

I wouldn't spend time arguing the point, but I see our young group very much the equal of GWS.

A well-presented argument overall. I reckon the highlighted GWS group you've mentioned above is ahead of our group but they're also probably slightly more experienced so hopefully in a year or two they go past them.

I excitedly agree with all the other points you've made here.

[Demons2riseagain 36]

8 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

I'm with PD on this one.  No chance of Rocky at the Dees, and the rumours going around were nothing more than that.

Yeah agreed. What does he have to gain by a flat out refusal. If anything would look stupid backtracking if we did indeed have interest a few days later. 

[Demons2riseagain 36]

1 hour ago, Abe said:

Didn't realise i had posted as much as i have haha, apologies to anyone else who was frustrated by that, happy for the mods to put a limit on my posting or something if they feel that's needed. 

real shame that this one hasn't come through, Rocky would have been a great inclusion. 

No need for apologies. 

I think most understood it as wishful positivity !!

[Goffer 256]

On 16/10/2016 at 9:30 AM, Stinga2 said:

Such as?

has to be more to it than a couple of poor tweets for the whole football community to shun a player of his ability that is up for grabs

If rumours posted by Lions fans are to be believed he'd be more suited for the Bombers or with Dane Swan. 

[felixdacat 459]

First let me start by saying I don't think we need Rockliff and I hope we don't get him.

But the video on Fox Mahoney says "I have no interest in Tom" which in itself could mean either the club has no interest in Rockliff or he Mahoney has no interest in him. I dint think he is coming but the video is not definitive.

 

Just sayin!?

[Rosco 10]

We don't leak anymore - until something manifests and its beneficial trade wise to announce publicly that we are interested in a player, mahoney will keep his cards close to his chest. 

I wouldn't rule this out yet. 

Edited October 17, 2016 by Rosco

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

I can't believe how offended people get when rumours turn out to be wrong.

Again, if someone is making stuff up then ban them but most times people are just passing on what they hear.

[Bring Back Barassi 532]

Keep in mind that Mahoney also said we were only interested in Hibberd and a 2nd ruck a week ago

[Pipefitter 2,008]

When Dunn was mentioned as the trade for a genuine star of the Comp I knew it was BS.

[ManDee 7,073]

12 hours ago, SFebey said:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/video/afl/trade/fair-bit-to-play-out-still!571132

 

No Interest in Rockliff at all.

Mahoney said I have no interest. All other references were we this or we're that, it is his only I.

At my place I have no interest in flowers on the dining table, we always have flowers on the dining table. Mahoney may be voicing his opinion only, others may have other opinions.

Insert gif of grasping at straws here or use your imagination. 

[Demonland 64,361]

12 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Mahoney said I have no interest. All other references were we this or we're that, it is his only I.

At my place I have no interest in flowers on the dining table, we always have flowers on the dining table. Mahoney may be voicing his opinion only, others may have other opinions.

Insert gif of grasping at straws here or use your imagination. 

The old reverse psychology ploy.....

[SFebes 4,692]

16 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Mahoney said I have no interest. All other references were we this or we're that, it is his only I.

At my place I have no interest in flowers on the dining table, we always have flowers on the dining table. Mahoney may be voicing his opinion only, others may have other opinions.

Insert gif of grasping at straws here or use your imagination. 

Mahoney speaks on behalf of the club, I would assume just a mistake. Rockliff is not coming. 

[Gator 16,888]

Oh dear.

Mahoney could say I have no interest, or the club has no intetest, he could even swear on the bible, but still some supporters wouldn't take it on face value.

One club saying they won't trade a player is miles away from another club saying they have zero interest in a player.  The motivations are vastly different. 

In fact, I can't remember a club during trade period declaring they have no interest in a player only for that player to go there.

Maybe someone can share an example where it's happened ?  And I reiterate that I'm talking about the narrow window of trade period.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

It has been established on a criminal standard of proof that we will not be recruiting Rockliff during this trade period.

Need now only to focus on landing Hibberd and Lewis and whatever other trade/s that we are currently pursuing that are not the subject of b.s. rumours on this thread (i.e. potential trades that are not known beyond Mahoney and a few others relevant to those discussions).

 

[Slartibartfast 15,715]

1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I can't believe how offended people get when rumours turn out to be wrong.

Again, if someone is making stuff up then ban them but most times people are just passing on what they hear.

GD was either lying about the source (David Noble - Operations Manager Brisbane) or lying about the trade. 

If he'slying about the source it could have been a rumour. If he's lying about the trade it cannot have been a rumour but a fabrication. 

I like rumours but I don't like fabrications. 

Edited October 17, 2016 by Baghdad Bob

[Nasher 33,047]

23 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Oh dear.

Mahoney could say I have no interest, or the club has no intetest, he could even swear on the bible, but still some supporters wouldn't take it on face value.

One club saying they won't trade a player is miles away from another club saying they have zero interest in a player.  The motivations are vastly different. 

In fact, I can't remember a club during trade period declaring they have no interest in a player only for that player to go there.

Maybe someone can share an example where it's happened ?  And I reiterate that I'm talking about the narrow window of trade period.

Are you suggesting the trade is off?

[Slartibartfast 15,715]

1 minute ago, Nasher said:

Are you suggesting the trade is off?

Are you suggesting it's not?  Have you got a rumour?

[Binmans PA 25,886]

15 minutes ago, Baghdad Bob said:

GD was either lying about the source (David Noble - Operations Manager Brisbane) or lying about the trade.

If he lying about the source it could have been a rumour. If he lying about the trade it cannot have been a rumour but a fabrication. 

I like rumours but I don't like fabrications. 

Or Noble actually did say this, Vogon, but the trade discussion never went any further. There are shades.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

4 minutes ago, Baghdad Bob said:

GD was either lying about the source (David Noble - Operations Manager Brisbane) or lying about the trade. 

If he'slying about the source it could have been a rumour. If he's lying about the trade it cannot have been a rumour but a fabrication. 

I like rumours but I don't like fabrications. 

Or someone lied to him.

Do you have two accounts?

[Nasher 33,047]

1 minute ago, Baghdad Bob said:

Are you suggesting it's not?  Have you got a rumour?

No, and no.  Was joking - obviously not happening.  

[Stretch Johnson 2,568]

3 minutes ago, A F said:

Or Noble actually did say this, Vogon, but the trade discussion never went any further. There are shades.

Yes but then there was a fair bit of other information added to add weight to the rumour.

Edited October 17, 2016 by Stretch Johnson