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21 hours ago, dieter said:

Plenty. Especially the ones that whinge about how bad we're going and then get sentimental when we're finally able to say goodbye to the spuds that kept making the same mistakes, time and time again. 

sigh...

Again, I am bemused by posters who can't differentiate between criticism of a player and criticism of the sheer disrespect shown in their description of a player.

The majority won't disagree with the assessment that Fitzpatrick didn't have the necessary skills to make it as an AFL player. There is no sentimentality, again the majority don't disagree with him being delisted. A few here do question your ability to critique a player without resorting to calling him a "spud".

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24 minutes ago, nutbean said:

sigh...

Again, I am bemused by posters who can't differentiate between criticism of a player and criticism of the sheer disrespect shown in their description of a player.

The majority won't disagree with the assessment that Fitzpatrick did have the necessary skills to make it as an AFL player. There is no sentimentality, again the majority don't disagree with him being delisted. A few here do question your ability to critique a player without resorting to calling him a "spud".

Completely agree Nutbean. Some people also can't see the difference between arguing a topic and attacking posters personally. It's the same concept.

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16 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Two things I hate being brought up when a player is being discussed :

1 - He's a great bloke. (This has zero relevance to his abilty as footballer yet is used as some kind of defence)

2 - The poster that has posted what is perceived to be a negative comment than being asked if he has played at the highest level. (No they probably haven't but they may be a specialist in their chosen field, they are still entitled to their opinion)

3 - Any poster that calls a player a spud (this adds absolutely nothing to the discussion of said player)...

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Calling a player a spud is merely confirmation that the poster is unable to articulate criticism due to a lack of specific knowledge or possession of a grade 5 vocabulary. 

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21 hours ago, dieter said:

Plenty. Especially the ones that whinge about how bad we're going and then get sentimental when we're finally able to say goodbye to the spuds that kept making the same mistakes, time and time again. 

I do find the word spud offensive when used to describe guys who have made AFL list, unlike the vast majority of us who post here.

And by the way, as far as I am aware, Jack only did the tunnel ball thing once, so you are being a bit harsh inferring, perhaps,  that he did it time and time again.

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20 hours ago, Return to Glory said:

It's hard to say. Perhaps go back again and see where the conversation takes you. I.e. You :'I like bread'. Him: 'I very much like bread'

Now your just dreaming, whereas his was a quote.  You don't like quotes being posted if they are a condescension.

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21 minutes ago, monoccular said:

I do find the word spud offensive when used to describe guys who have made AFL list, unlike the vast majority of us who post here.

And by the way, as far as I am aware, Jack only did the tunnel ball thing once, so you are being a bit harsh inferring, perhaps,  that he did it time and time again.

True.  Its a bit too humiliating..

 

He wasn't up to it. Had the raw talent but wasn't able to grow it & use it.

 

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1 hour ago, Stretch Johnson said:

Calling a player a spud is merely confirmation that the poster is unable to articulate criticism due to a lack of specific knowledge or possession of a grade 5 vocabulary. 

but your doing the same thing you want him to stop.

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14 minutes ago, DV8 said:

but your doing the same thing you want him to stop.

A spud is a spud is a spud. I shall ignore the ad hominems from sanctimonious men who no doubt took part in the pagan orgy called The Cup who woke up feeling worse for the ware, their wallets empty, and that will be my last word on the matter until I discuss this further with my Russian Physiotherapist/psychiatrist/spud namer. ( You know the saying, scratch a Russian find a potato.

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48 minutes ago, monoccular said:

I do find the word spud offensive when used to describe guys who have made AFL list, unlike the vast majority of us who post here.

And by the way, as far as I am aware, Jack only did the tunnel ball thing once, so you are being a bit harsh inferring, perhaps,  that he did it time and time again.

Well said, I always think it says more about the poster.

Fitzy got through a hell of a lot to make it onto 2 AFL lists

 

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6 minutes ago, dieter said:

A spud is a spud is a spud. I shall ignore the ad hominems from sanctimonious men who no doubt took part in the pagan orgy called The Cup who woke up feeling worse for the ware, their wallets empty, and that will be my last word on the matter until I discuss this further with my Russian Physiotherapist/psychiatrist/spud namer. ( You know the saying, scratch a Russian find a potato.

Is his name Nick by chance?

A Box Hill Russian physio ???

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20 minutes ago, dieter said:

A spud is a spud is a spud. I shall ignore the ad hominems from sanctimonious men who no doubt took part in the pagan orgy called The Cup who woke up feeling worse for the ware, their wallets empty, and that will be my last word on the matter until I discuss this further with my Russian Physiotherapist/psychiatrist/spud namer. ( You know the saying, scratch a Russian find a potato.

Ladies and gentlemen as per my previous post I would like to present Exhibit A.

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1 hour ago, monoccular said:

I do find the word spud offensive when used to describe guys who have made AFL list, unlike the vast majority of us who post here.

And by the way, as far as I am aware, Jack only did the tunnel ball thing once, so you are being a bit harsh inferring, perhaps,  that he did it time and time again.

This was not directed at Spud Jack, it was directed at all the spuds who have masqueraded as Melbourne footballers for so may years and made us weep and howl.

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If you can't criticise a player without resorting to derogatory language then perhaps it's better if you don't post at all. 

Repeatedly calling a player a 'spud' adds nothing to the discussion and is against the Code of Conduct. 

We can revisit this thread if Fitz gets another crack at it. 

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