MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 22

[Demi Dee 578]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Since when?

Maybe it was the 3 goals he kicked in our win against Geelong last year. I must have pegged him for having a sense for goal all the way back them. But, your right, what has he done lately. 

[Gator 16,891]

3 hours ago, Undeeterred said:

Nope. We've been very good in the wet this year (Hawthorn, Port games come to mind). We've mastered the art of getting it forward at all costs a la the Hawks. If it's wet we will smash them even harder.

We have been quite good, but also had our worst loss for the year in the wet (Sydney).

[Je Roos Salem 661]

Shame, this could've been a big Garlett game. Michie is Mr.White bread. I feel bad for Pedo but I wanted Weideman back so I'll live with that, maybe both could've been in if it weren't likely a wet game

[DemonOX 8,529]

On 19 August 2016 at 5:54 PM, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

I don't generally like to bag our players, but Mitchie is a spud at AFL level and a waste of a supplementry list spot.  In the numerous chances he has been given to play at AFL level, I haven't seen him play a half decent game yet.

Whilst I don't think champion data points always tell the full story, they do give a fair indication.  Mitchie's highest AFL score this year is only just above what Harmes achieved last round on an off game.  Mitchie's best score is lower than Jack Grimes lowest for the year.  I don't ever recall seeing Mitchie do anything impactful at AFL level, yet players like Harmes and Grimes regularly put their bodies on the line and create pivotal moments in matches.  Harmes games against Gold Coast and Hawthorn were excellent IMHO.

I would have named a slightly underdone Salem as an emergency over Mitchie any day and it bemuses me that the match committee didn't go that way.

Not having a go at u Rod but I really hate that term "spud". 

Any player on an AFL list has done more than us keyboard warriors. 

I would also be very proud of them if they were my sons  

Please show some respect. 

Edited August 20, 2016 by DemonOX

[Nasher 33,047]

Maybe the group think on Harmes was right after all.  That has caught me off guard, I've got to confess. 

Best of luck to Michie and ANB.  Say what you will about them as players, one thing you can definitely say is that they've had to go down the hard road this year to get their chances, and have sustained high quality VFL performances all year.  

[Constant Mongrel 571]

1 hour ago, SaberFang said:

I don't get the changes either but I guess it keeps the team fresh. Clearly the coaches don't think Kennedy or Salem are in form, as they seem the obvious replacements for those omitted.

i thought the same thing.. i went along to training this morning, but missed the first half hour or so.. arrived just to see ben ken leaving the paddock. salem trained well and looked crisp. not really a small forward option though.

[Sir Why You Little 34,430]

18 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Maybe the group think on Harmes was right after all.  That has caught me off guard, I've got to confess. 

Best of luck to Michie and ANB.  Say what you will about them as players, one thing you can definitely say is that they've had to go down the hard road this year to get their chances, and have sustained high quality VFL performances all year.  

Any of these guys bought in this week should be going at it flat out. 

Could be a good thing. 

Big Win Sunday Demons....Big

[DemonLad5 1,637]

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Did Hogan train today?

[DemonLad5 1,637]

It actually has taken me a while to realise how bad Carlton's list still is. Which players with genuine quality will be lining up for them this week? Cripps, Gibbs, Weitering (who's looked absolutely spent the last few weeks) and Docherty. Should destroy this mob. 

[monoccular 16,040]

46 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

Not having a go at u Rod but I really hate that term "spud". 

Any player on an AFL list has done more than us keyboard warriors. 

Please show some respect. 

Totally agree - in any field of endeavor there are some who succeed and others that don't, but spud and dud just do not give respect to those who have got where most of us could only dream.  

[Little Goffy 12,541]

Though I have doubts about his inclusion, it is a bit much to be calling Michie a 'spud'. That's a term best reserved for senior public servants. "Head of Census and change management at the Australian Bureau of Statistics, Chris Libreri, is a spud", that would be fair.

[Red and Bluebeard 2,031]

16 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Though I have doubts about his inclusion, it is a bit much to be calling Michie a 'spud'. That's a term best reserved for senior public servants. "Head of Census and change management at the Australian Bureau of Statistics, Chris Libreri, is a spud", that would be fair.

Not to spuds, it's not ...

[The heart beats true 16,057]

ANB deserves a crack and hasn't really been given some clear air at AFL level this year. He's got very good competition on the list for the role he usually plays. 

Michie is playing for his career - but I genuinely thought that decision has been made given he's not shown enough in my opinion to keep. I'd suspect if JKH or Salem had more game time at Casey they would have come in.

Pederson is paying for not doing the team thing last weekend when he had options and took the shot and missed it. In his own words he has to do the little things well to maintain his spot. He's not the future, so I don't mind getting games into the Weed.

Wouldnt surprise me if Hogan didn't come up either, given some reports floating around.

[daisycutter 28,480]

roosy just wanting to see who the best 22 will be for the big one at the cat's litter box

[Pates 9,536]

58 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

It actually has taken me a while to realise how bad Carlton's list still is. Which players with genuine quality will be lining up for them this week? Cripps, Gibbs, Weitering (who's looked absolutely spent the last few weeks) and Docherty. Should destroy this mob. 

We should. We're Melbourne. Nothing is certain. 

I feel that Michie is in many ways playing for his spot on the list. He's been a disappointment for me since crossing, I'd read quite positive things about him but he's rarely shown more than just being an accumulator. 

I'm hoping we hold onto ANB but I wonder whether this might be an opportunity for us to show off some depth and get some interested parties looking our way. 

I would love to see us monster a team, put the competition on notice for 2017. 

[Binmans PA 25,923]

Not a fan of the changes, but I suspect we feel we can get away with it this week. I've been pretty supportive of the changes for most of the year. I think they've been pretty spot on, but Michie has no future at this stage (doesn't have a weapon - isn't an accumulator; isn't damaging enough with his disposals; isn't fast; isn't great above his head) and ANB has consistently shown this year that he's not good enough for AFL level (another who lacks weapons).

As much as I've complained about Harmes' poor disposal, at least he is tough at the contest, quick and gets the footy. Michie (his presumable replacement) is none of those. Pedo unlucky, but I'm more excited to see Hogan and Weideman play together for the first time. 

Edited August 19, 2016 by AdamFphlebeb

[Binmans PA 25,923]

2 hours ago, Nasher said:

Maybe the group think on Harmes was right after all.  That has caught me off guard, I've got to confess. 

Just like the group-think on Grimes, Dawes and Garland?

[Binmans PA 25,923]

1 hour ago, DemonLad5 said:

It actually has taken me a while to realise how bad Carlton's list still is. Which players with genuine quality will be lining up for them this week? Cripps, Gibbs, Weitering (who's looked absolutely spent the last few weeks) and Docherty. Should destroy this mob. 

It's pretty much the same mob that beat us last year. Yes, I know we've improved dramatically, but it's all about mindset this week. We should win and win comfortably. Let's see what our boys bring. I reckon Carlton will be fierce early. If we can smash them in the first term, we could be looking at a 7-10 goal win.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

2 minutes ago, AdamFphlebeb said:

It's pretty much the same mob that beat us last year. Yes, I know we've improved dramatically, but it's all about mindset this week. We should win and win comfortably. Let's see what our boys bring. I reckon Carlton will be fierce early. If we can smash them in the first term, we could be looking at a 7-10 goal win.

I said that about Port last week... and they were poor, and they were going in to the game with an outside chance of a crack at the finals.

The Blues are playing like a side who can't wait to head to Bali.  I expect us to belt them from the outset.

[Binmans PA 25,923]

13 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I said that about Port last week... and they were poor, and they were going in to the game with an outside chance of a crack at the finals.

The Blues are playing like a side who can't wait to head to Bali.  I expect us to belt them from the outset.

Hope you're right, mate.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Just now, AdamFphlebeb said:

Hope you're right, mate.

Me too!  I was wrong last week, so I'm confident that I can't be wrong two weeks in a row...

[P-man 13,154]

Pleasantly surprised by the changes. Michie is better than the no hoper he gets painted as on here, and ANB has smashed the door down. Good luck to both.

i would've kept Pedo personally but if Weed is fit then he has showed he's capable.

[Nasher 33,047]

29 minutes ago, A F said:

Just like the group-think on Grimes, Dawes and Garland?

That's twice in two days I've been falsely accused of backing Grimes and Garland!

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,577]

4 hours ago, DemonOX said:

Not having a go at u Rod but I really hate that term "spud". 

Any player on an AFL list has done more than us keyboard warriors. 

Please show some respect. 

Fair call OX.

Fot the record, you are right, I wasn't even a spud of an AFL player.

Edited August 19, 2016 by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

[WERRIDEE 5,206]

1 hour ago, A F said:

Not a fan of the changes, but I suspect we feel we can get away with it this week. I've been pretty supportive of the changes for most of the year. I think they've been pretty spot on, but Michie has no future at this stage (doesn't have a weapon - isn't an accumulator; isn't damaging enough with his disposals; isn't fast; isn't great above his head) and ANB has consistently shown this year that he's not good enough for AFL level (another who lacks weapons).

As much as I've complained about Harmes' poor disposal, at least he is tough at the contest, quick and gets the footy. Michie (his presumable replacement) is none of those. Pedo unlucky, but I'm more excited to see Hogan and Weideman play together for the first time. 

Harmes has been treading water for a while, it was only a matter of time before he got dropped. His kicking has cost him just like it cost M.Jones a few weeks ago, we are weeding out the poor kicks from the side so I'm not surprised that ANB and Michie are now ahead of him.

We need to get games in to the Weid so I'm content to see him  get a game ahead of Pedo.

I don't understand the replacement for Garlett surely Kennedy was the perfect replacement. I don't know what he's done or not done to be offside with Roos.

I don't know what to expect from this game, are we going to be the clanger king Demons (Essendon game) or world beating Demons (Hawthorn game). We must smash them no excuses.