Jeff Garlett no contest

[Palace Dees 1,945]

3 hours ago, Tony Tea said:

Gee. Everyone here is pretty generous. Jeffy has always been prone to sheet himself, and Saturday was no exception.

Oh dear................time to take a month or so away from Demonland again. Unfortunate because I enjoy reading so many people's comments and then I have to suffer this tripe!

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

Conditions sucked. It was like a misty, soupy morning on the Western Front circa 1916. Hard to judge a floater coming in.

And yep - I give Jeffy the benefit of the doubt on everything.

 

[old dee 22,799]

2 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said:

Conditions sucked. It was like a misty, soupy morning on the Western Front circa 1916. Hard to judge a floater coming in.

And yep - I give Jeffy the benefit of the doubt on everything.

 

I had no idea you were that old RB.

[ManDee 7,073]

6 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said:

Conditions sucked. It was like a misty, soupy morning on the Western Front circa 1916. Hard to judge a floater coming in.

And yep - I give Jeffy the benefit of the doubt on everything.

 

Mustard gas and pie floaters, ah, those were the days. 

[old dee 22,799]

7 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Mustard gas and pie floaters, ah, those were the days. 

For those guys a Pie floater would have been a   feast MD

[Red and Bluebeard 2,023]

11 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said:

Conditions sucked. It was like a misty, soupy morning on the Western Front circa 1916. Hard to judge a floater coming in.

And yep - I give Jeffy the benefit of the doubt on everything.

 

More like a Scottish summer for mine ... 

[DeeSpencer 23,051]

One more chance I think. 

But he's had more off days than on days this year, even if he has a skill set most of our players don't. 

Cuddle or whack is up to the coach. Either one starts with explaining the mistakes and why they aren't tolerated and from there it's a matter of how you get the best out of him.

[Bitter but optimistic 21,150]

Just read this thread.

FMD twice over!!! Give the guy a [censored] break. [censored] me we eat our own on Demonland.

[Copuchas 756]

9 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Just read this thread.

FMD twice over!!! Give the guy a [censored] break. [censored] me we eat our own on Demonland.

Note that I started the thread through a sense of outrage that the footy media had run with the interpretation they did!!  He most definitely did not squib it from where I was sitting.  He'll come good this week, no doubt whatsoever.

[Demon Dynasty 15,150]

8 hours ago, ManDee said:

Mustard gas and pie floaters, ah, those were the days. 

I am pleased to report that in a recent visit to London i could uncover no further evidence of any pie floaters Man. The last visit, 42 years prior, they were still up and about. I will never forget my first

Not sure about the mustard gas but the cream teas and Bakewell puddings are still going strong!

Edited June 8, 2016 by Rusty Nails

[Biffen 12,298]

2 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Just read this thread.

FMD twice over!!! Give the guy a [censored] break. [censored] me we eat our own on Demonland.

I'll just have the salad.

[KingDingAling 3,589]

I haven't seen the incident, but overall I couldn't care if Garlett shirked a contest. He is a whippet, and a very intelligent player, it isn't his job to go all out. He isn't even that type of player anyway. He is a patient guy who takes advantage of his opportunities - generally kicking clutch goals when doing so.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

13 hours ago, old dee said:

I had no idea you were that old RB.

I'm just wise OD. Like a miniature Buddha covered with hair.

 

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

On 7 June 2016 at 1:28 PM, iv'a worn smith said:

Until he rips it up on Monday

Last time I make predictions on here.  What a good judge I am.  Geez 

[Buzzy 919]

Just looked like he misjudged it from where I was sitting... I certainly didn't think he pulled out due to lack of balls.

[Lucifers Hero 36,972]

1 minute ago, Buzzy said:

Just looked like he misjudged it from where I was sitting... I certainly didn't think he pulled out due to lack of balls.

My recollection is that once the ball went over his head he didn't try to get back to contest the ground ball, leaving it to the two Hawk defenders to do what they like.  Misjudging is one thing, not contesting is another.  Yes, there were 2, yes they were bigger but he didn't even give chase to put some pressure on.  They just waltzed it out... 

Jeff could take a leaf out of Eddie Betts book...his goal last week (maybe GOTY) was the result of desperate ground work.  Is Jeff happy to kick a few goals running out the back and from opportunistic plays or does he want to get down and dirty and like Eddie sometimes kick a bag of 4,5,6 goals?

Jeff can be as good as Eddie if he wants.

His choice.

[stuie 7,374]

Damien Barrett in his "Sliding Doors" this week:

Melbourne
IF there was one certainty in AFL team selection ...... THEN it was Jeff Garlett's omission this week. In a Paul Roos-coached team, you can't pull out the way he did against the Hawks.

That only proves now that anyone who thought he squibbed it are wrong.

[Bobby McKenzie 2,167]

2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

My recollection is that once the ball went over his head he didn't try to get back to contest the ground ball, leaving it to the two Hawk defenders to do what they like.  Misjudging is one thing, not contesting is another.  Yes, there were 2, yes they were bigger but he didn't even give chase to put some pressure on.  They just waltzed it out... 

Jeff could take a leaf out of Eddie Betts book...his goal last week (maybe GOTY) was the result of desperate ground work.  Is Jeff happy to kick a few goals running out the back and from opportunistic plays or does he want to get down and dirty and like Eddie sometimes kick a bag of 4,5,6 goals?

Jeff can be as good as Eddie if he wants.

His choice.

He chased hard as he always does. Have another look at the replay. He chased hard trying to make up  for his error.

[ArtificialWisdom 3,844]

2 hours ago, stuie said:

Damien Barrett in his "Sliding Doors" this week:

Melbourne
IF there was one certainty in AFL team selection ...... THEN it was Jeff Garlett's omission this week. In a Paul Roos-coached team, you can't pull out the way he did against the Hawks.

That only proves now that anyone who thought he squibbed it are wrong.

The very notion that Roos would drop a player for just 1 poor effort is a bit insulting to Roos dont you think? 

[needafullback 82]

For once I think Barrett is right.  Garlett definitely shirked it, and was dropped as a result.  I was surprised at the time he wasn't dragged. If anyone doubts it watch this again from 4.30: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2016-06-06/this-dee-failed-the-moment

Does anyone seriously think a player of Garlett's ability misjudged that ball? Why weren't his arms extended further? He was clearly worried about what was behind him (and let's face it, he tends to avoid heavy contact in aerial contests).

I don't expect players of Garlett's build and type to throw themselves into physical contests regularly - they are more dangerous hanging back for a loose ball.  But the incident on Saturday in the first quarter was simply a case of not going when it's your turn.  It was a critical moment and a scoring opportunity missed.  We had no hope of beating Hawthorn if any player did that.  The fact that Jeff otherwise had a bad game wouldn't see him out of the team for this week.  But the coach/selectors have done the right thing sending this message.  What would Kennedy/Michie/Grimes/ANB and others think if Garlett remained in the side?  Standing firm under the ball in that situation must be a non-negotiable at our cub, and I for one am glad that it seems now that it is. 

[stuie 7,374]

24 minutes ago, needafullback said:

For once I think Barrett is right.  Garlett definitely shirked it, and was dropped as a result.  I was surprised at the time he wasn't dragged. If anyone doubts it watch this again from 4.30: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2016-06-06/this-dee-failed-the-moment

Does anyone seriously think a player of Garlett's ability misjudged that ball? Why weren't his arms extended further? He was clearly worried about what was behind him (and let's face it, he tends to avoid heavy contact in aerial contests).

 

This is the problem. Everyone is watching the video of it and no one is listening to the people that were actually there.

 

[ArtificialWisdom 3,844]

30 minutes ago, stuie said:

This is the problem. Everyone is watching the video of it and no one is listening to the people that were actually there.

 

Exactly, the video is front on and does not show the depth accurately at all. No excuse for misjudging it so badly and no doubt he had a howler of a day, but saying he flinched is just ignorant.

[felixdacat 459]

The incident aside I reckon Jeffy's form the last few games have dropped and that he deserved to get dropped. He needs to go back to find it again in the two's. I don't believe that incident alone caused his ommision but it sure did not help his case.

I reckon he will come back from it and be better for it. Go Dee's!

 

[ArtificialWisdom 3,844]

4 minutes ago, felixdacat said:

The incident aside I reckon Jeffy's form the last few games have dropped and that he deserved to get dropped. He needs to go back to find it again in the two's. I don't believe that incident alone caused his ommision but it sure did not help his case.

I reckon he will come back from it and be better for it. Go Dee's!

 

100% agree

[needafullback 82]

45 minutes ago, stuie said:

This is the problem. Everyone is watching the video of it and no one is listening to the people that were actually there.

 

I was there.  I was pretty close to it actually.  Immediately afterward I was looking for the runner.