CASEY SCORPIONS v WILLIAMSTOWN

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

1 minute ago, Sylvia Saint said:

You're the poster who used to call Trengove slow at everything he does, including speaking, right?

Yes, but I was talking about Mitchell.

I would love nothing more than to see Trengove run out for Melbourne again.

[picket fence 15,046]

Ok interesting! Just wondering where he might play in the ones!?

[Nasher 33,047]

30 touches and 2 goals - not too bad for a slow hack!

[picket fence 15,046]

4 minutes ago, Nasher said:

30 touches and 2 goals - not too bad for a slow hack!

Yep agree, but given the makeup of the senior side and the emphasis on pace where would he play and who might he replace??

Edited April 23, 2016 by picket fence

[Palace Dees 1,956]

1 minute ago, picket fence said:

Ok interesting! Just wondering where he might play in the ones!?

In the 22!

Not being smart, but positions have little relevance in the modern game. It's more a role than a position players have now.

[picket fence 15,046]

1 minute ago, Palace Dees said:

In the 22!

Not being smart, but positions have little relevance in the modern game. It's more a role than a position players have now.

But as I have said on another forum what specific "Role" would he play and who might he replace??

[Nasher 33,047]

Just now, picket fence said:

Yep agree, but given the makeup of the senior side and the emphasis on pace where would he play and who might he replace??

Nowhere for the time being.  Injuries, poor form and opportunities will come though.  No player capable of playing AFL footy has ever been kept out of a side for an entire season.

[picket fence 15,046]

Hnmm well, if he gets back I will take my hat of to him, but If IF pace is an issue then this might be the limiting factor!

[rjay 23,852]

5 minutes ago, Is Dom Is Good said:

From what has been mentioned over the last few weeks he isn't lightning but is not as slow as when he was suffering from that foot (he looked live he was in quicksand). I reckon he will get back to AFL in the net one or two weeks and will play as a utility all over the ground.

I think the big problem Jack had when playing with the foot problems was more the lack of power, he wasn't able to impact the contest. It seems that he is over the foot issues so if he can get back the power to impose himself on the contest he will be fine.

A very smart natural footballer with great skills will always find a place in any team.

[Nasher 33,047]

1 minute ago, picket fence said:

Hnmm well, if he gets back I will take my hat of to him, but If IF pace is an issue then this might be the limiting factor!

I just don't think he can possibly be that "slow" if he got on the end of it 30 times (more than any other Casey player) and kicked 2.  I reckon speed is hard to judge and people get it wrong all the time - I remember thinking how horribly slow Hawthorn looked when they were getting towelled by Adelaide early in the game last night.  Suddenly they started winning contests and getting some outside spread and the same mob of people didn't look slow at all.

Obviously Trenners isn't slow relative to the VFL players or he'd not have had the touches he did, yet others thought he looked it.  I think the only way to find out if his touch translates in the seniors is to put him in there, though as I alluded to in my previous post, there's no glaring hurry or need to at this stage.

[picket fence 15,046]

1 minute ago, Nasher said:

I just don't think he can possibly be that "slow" if he got on the end of it 30 times (more than any other Casey player) and kicked 2.  I reckon speed is hard to judge and people get it wrong all the time - I remember thinking how horribly slow Hawthorn looked when they were getting towelled by Adelaide early in the game last night.  Suddenly they started winning contests and getting some outside spread and the same mob of people didn't look slow at all.

Obviously Trenners isn't slow relative to the VFL players or he'd not have had the touches he did, yet others thought he looked it.  I think the only way to find out if his touch translates in the seniors is to put him in there, though as I alluded to in my previous post, there's no glaring hurry or need to at this stage.

Agree, As Dean Bailey often said, It aint pace, but finding space!

Interesting time s ahead for Trengove!

[RalphiusMaximus 5,993]

Trenners has a really quick footy brain.  His pace may be average, but he's quick to read the play and quick to dispose of the ball and he has a great feel for the game.  That's where he gets so many touches.  If he goes for a run through the middle he'll probably get caught, but as long as he's moving the ball along quickly he'll be fine.  Think if Tyson was a bit quicker-thinking. 

[titan_uranus 22,219]

3 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I just don't think he can possibly be that "slow" if he got on the end of it 30 times (more than any other Casey player) and kicked 2.  I reckon speed is hard to judge and people get it wrong all the time - I remember thinking how horribly slow Hawthorn looked when they were getting towelled by Adelaide early in the game last night.  Suddenly they started winning contests and getting some outside spread and the same mob of people didn't look slow at all.

Obviously Trenners isn't slow relative to the VFL players or he'd not have had the touches he did, yet others thought he looked it.  I think the only way to find out if his touch translates in the seniors is to put him in there, though as I alluded to in my previous post, there's no glaring hurry or need to at this stage.

Agree.

We looked awfully slow against Essendon.

We were miles faster than Collingwood and, for periods of the game, we also looked faster than both GWS (one of the fastest sides in the comp) and North.

[What 18,810]

11 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I just don't think he can possibly be that "slow" if he got on the end of it 30 times (more than any other Casey player) and kicked 2.  I reckon speed is hard to judge and people get it wrong all the time - I remember thinking how horribly slow Hawthorn looked when they were getting towelled by Adelaide early in the game last night.  Suddenly they started winning contests and getting some outside spread and the same mob of people didn't look slow at all.

Obviously Trenners isn't slow relative to the VFL players or he'd not have had the touches he did, yet others thought he looked it.  I think the only way to find out if his touch translates in the seniors is to put him in there, though as I alluded to in my previous post, there's no glaring hurry or need to at this stage.

 

9 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Agree, As Dean Bailey often said, It aint pace, but finding space!

Interesting time s ahead for Trengove!

 

7 minutes ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

Trenners has a really quick footy brain.  His pace may be average, but he's quick to read the play and quick to dispose of the ball and he has a great feel for the game.  That's where he gets so many touches.  If he goes for a run through the middle he'll probably get caught, but as long as he's moving the ball along quickly he'll be fine.  Think if Tyson was a bit quicker-thinking. 

 

7 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Agree.

We looked awfully slow against Essendon.

We were miles faster than Collingwood and, for periods of the game, we also looked faster than both GWS (one of the fastest sides in the comp) and North.

 

The Cats won three flags with a team that lacked any serious leg speed (bar Wojcinski and maybe one or two others)...but they moved the ball with lightning speed and precision

The return of Trenners in an MFC jumper is coming

Edited April 23, 2016 by Petraccattack

[bjDee 1,247]

Honestly I wouldn't promote anyone on what I saw tonight. Ignoring the stats. 

But then I never seem to guess right in advance what the selectors end up doing, so in that case I reckon Garland and Terlich are in for elevation next week. 

[Palace Dees 1,956]

8 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I just don't think he can possibly be that "slow" if he got on the end of it 30 times (more than any other Casey player) and kicked 2.  I reckon speed is hard to judge and people get it wrong all the time - I remember thinking how horribly slow Hawthorn looked when they were getting towelled by Adelaide early in the game last night.  Suddenly they started winning contests and getting some outside spread and the same mob of people didn't look slow at all.

Obviously Trenners isn't slow relative to the VFL players or he'd not have had the touches he did, yet others thought he looked it.  I think the only way to find out if his touch translates in the seniors is to put him in there, though as I alluded to in my previous post, there's no glaring hurry or need to at this stage.

Probably the best post in all of this Trengove debate.

[tappysquads 618]

Anyone heard of Sam Mitchell? Kind of goes ok for a bloke that is slow..... Trenners will get back and be a gun for MFC through the midfield

[Wiseblood 24,636]

You don't need pace to make it as an AFL player.

Just ask Sam Blease.

[BarnDee 284]

51 minutes ago, hells bells said:

Jack Trengove has missed two years of footy, has played just 3 games in his comeback.  

Lets give the bloke a chance before stamping his papers as too slow and finished.    

For [censored] sake he has busted his arse to get over this injury and get back on the park.  For that alone he deserves our praise and admiration.

Reading some comments you get the feeling that people are actually willing him to fail because it suits their narrative. 

i agree there are a few real shitheads in here that expect failure to prove their point well i say up yours 

[Miracle 89]

Trenners received free kick in centre. Ran around man on mark and kicked perfect 50 metre pass to leading forward on left foot. 

Both he and trac were very good inside with quick handballs and great tackling. 

Trac is ready but obviously Trenners will need at least another month. 

[BarnDee 284]

go dees eat tiger tom nite 

[RalphiusMaximus 5,993]

4 minutes ago, Miracle said:

Trac is ready but obviously Trenners will need at least another month. 

I'm happy for them to take time with him.  AFL-level fitness is very hard to attain and I doubt if he'll actually be there this year.  They always say it takes draftees a few years to reach full AFL fitness and that's more or less where he's starting.  Every game he plays with Casey he's going to be improving his base a little.  If he comes in during the second half of the season then it's a big win. 

[Gipsy Danger 1,067]

56 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Yeah I agree, they are very good stats, but I wanta know what's his pace like??

How about you head down to Gosch's paddock on Tuesday and challange him to a foot race.

[demoniac 1,243]

11 minutes ago, Hellfish said:

How about you head down to Gosch's paddock on Tuesday and challange him to a foot race.

Burgatron Phantom Draft on Trenners.. for mine if his foot is 100% he will make it back to AFL level...

2 - MELBOURNE - Jack Trengove
DOB: 02/09/91, Height: 185cm, Weight: 82kg
Recruited from: Kybybolite/Sturt (SA)
Draft range: 1-2
Meet Jack Trengove

Although he will be taken at two, Trengove's exceptional performances in the SANFL senior finals showed he is equally deserving of the No.1 tag. In the preliminary final against Glenelg, he was best on ground with 29 disposals. Finals prevented Trengove from attending the NAB AFL Draft Camp, but he followed up at the South Australian state screening with an outstanding beep test: level 15.3. Likened to Collingwood great Nathan Buckley, Trengove has excellent speed, endurance and leadership. He can also play midfield, forward or back. He is no relation to Port Adelaide's Jackson Trengove.

[Binmans PA 25,892]

It's interesting being on the end of a controversial opinion around here. We don't take too kindly to it. And now one poster says that some of us are "willing Trengove to fail" because it suits our narrative. Turn it up. If he's slow, he's slow. Is that the end of the world? No. I watched him for at least two years run around at AFL level playing in the midfield and it looked as though he was running in cement. That certainly affected his ability to impact at the highest level. I'm sorry, but let's not sugarcoat it. He still looks just as slow as he did under duress. Does that mean he won't make it if played in the right position? No. But let's get real here. Regards, Sassmagas.

Edited April 23, 2016 by AdamFarr