MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 4

[Melb16 493]

Hearing Hogan is out this week. 

 

Dont shoot me if not the case, only what I've heard. Calf problem.

[Ouch! 2,262]

1 hour ago, Baghdad Bob said:

Tomorrow we have

• kWagner who played 63% game time (GT) last week
• Hunt who was far from our best last week and only performed against witches hats,
• Harmes  GT 64, 75, 71; 
• Oliver GT 58, 67, 65
• Brayshaw GT 58
• Tyson GT 76, 74, 68

That's six players who can't really play enought GY  which puts tremendous pressure on the rest of the team.  I'm not confident.  Playing all these youngsters seems to be placing a premium on development, not winning.  For supporters that's a hard pill to swallow given the last 10 years.

 

This needs to be compared in context to what the pies are doing with their players also.... I suspect most teams are playing youth with a 60-70% game time. I also know that mathematically you can't play 22 players on the ground with 100% game time so until you compare to other teams and their strategies it's a bit of a nothing stat to me personally.

i also don't pretend to know what the coaching staff are trying to do, but with several young and relatively quick half back types in the team and an extra tall, perhaps we are planning on a higher risk strategy around run and carry off half back and stretching their defence with some more height... Lumumba, Wagner, Salem, Hunt etc... We might be trying to play a higher tempo football brand... I still think that Oliver, Viney, Jones, Tyson feeding off Gawn is going to be a better clearance brigade than the pies mob. 

I didn't tip the Dee's,but I think I'll regret it come Sunday, I feel this should be a win.

[jnrmac 20,060]

On 4/14/2016 at 5:33 PM, PaulRB said:

With our high attacking zone i.e all in forward half pressuring a score, having backs with pace also stops teams breaking out and beating us on the outside (like GWS tried to do)... It's smart.

Nice post..

[Slartibartfast 17,265]

1 hour ago, Melb16 said:

Hearing Hogan is out this week. 

 

Dont shoot me if not the case, only what I've heard. Calf problem.

Would explain both Pedersen and Frost playing. 

[RedLegs23 932]

Watching some LIVE EFL atm. Look right & there's Treloar standing there with his left finger in a splint...

Interesting.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,856]

27 minutes ago, RedLegs23 said:

Watching some LIVE EFL atm. Look right & there's Treloar standing there with his left finger in a splint...

Interesting.

'Bump' into him and make sure it's broken.

[Gorgoroth 12,949]

3 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

'Bump' into him and make sure it's broken.

With a car... at speed...

 

 

Joking... joking...

 

I think...

[bing181 9,219]

7 hours ago, Baghdad Bob said:

It's moot of course but I'd say that Stretch, Grimes, ANB, Garland and even Petracca/Trengove (yes, I know) are ahead of Wagner and Hunt.

At least let's look at like for like, which brings it down to the half-backs: Grimes and Garland vs Wagner and Hunt.

Based on Garland's last game at both AFL and VFL level, you'd have to put Wagner and Hunt ahead of him As for Grimes, much as he's been a loyal foot soldier, he does not have enough impact or hurt the opposition. If he plays more than a handful of game this year, I'll be surprised.

This isn't about Hunt vs ANB either, as they play different positions, and are different kinds of players. Hunt is there to give us speed and penetration off half-back, something that few (if any) other players provide.

Selection decisions have to go further than "A is better than B", they're also about game plan, team structure, match ups etc. The FD have obviously identified a role and a need for Hunt, so he's in. Up to him now to justify it.

[leave it to deever 17,511]

On Friday, April 15, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Nice work.

 

On Friday, April 15, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Wadda We Sing said:

I think we m11ght actually smash them.....remember to be careful where you park your cars, and remove all red and blue rememorabilla!

AS IF the car will stii be there

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

On 4/14/2016 at 9:03 PM, Earl Hood said:

Interesting I have seen no comment from senior MFC people chastising Vince for his brainfade, token elbow to the head that cost him a game and the club.  Or did I miss it? Fact is as a leader he should have been given a right old rollicking by Roos for that effort. Maybe he was behind closed doors. But I haven't noticed any club response. 

Mate i'm the exact opposite. That match against the Roos was the first time i've seen us play a little like Demons since Swooper's time at the club. A little unsociable footy never hurt anyone.....just ask the Hawks 

Gimme more Demon footy please Mr Vince (et al) & less "MFC"!!!! (old school). Harmes attack on ball and carrier also ....woot!

Stick it right up em' Demons!

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

I tipped Melbourne but I regret it.

[daisycutter 29,613]

6 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I tipped Melbourne but I regret it.

i'd certainly feel more comfortable with vince and garlett playing. just hope there is no more late withdrawals

Edited April 16, 2016 by daisycutter

[Gorgoroth 12,949]

7 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I tipped Melbourne but I regret it.

I always tip us. But if I'm not confident I top us by 1 point. 

[What 18,810]

This is going to be a close game.

If we win with so many kids it will be bloody awesome and the future is suddenly gonna look brighter than the sun.

[WhyAlwaysMe 237]

we have been drifting in the betting all week out from $2.25 to $3.25 with some bookies, no doubt the bookies are aware of some late changes to the side

[What 18,810]

6 minutes ago, WhyAlwaysMe said:

we have been drifting in the betting all week out from $2.25 to $3.25 with some bookies, no doubt the bookies are aware of some late changes to the side

 

I thought the betting was determined by the amount of money coming in for each tean, which would make sense as moron Pies supporters would be throwing their dole money on them

[binman 42,919]

3 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

 

I thought the betting was determined by the amount of money coming in for each team

That's right - so  perhaps some punters might know there might be a withdrawal, say Hogan - or more likely might have heard rumors on fans sites such as DL. The pools on individual games of football, spread as they across multiple betting agencies, are small so it doesn't take much to move the odds (and they generally follow each other)

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

10 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

 

I thought the betting was determined by the amount of money coming in for each tean, which would make sense as moron Pies supporters would be throwing their dole money on them

The money is a factor but of the bookies know something the odds will reflect it.

[Skuit 10,031]

Well, one of them pushed the Pies out to $2 on special. Does that suggest something?

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,391]

19 hours ago, Melb16 said:

Hearing Hogan is out this week. 

 

Dont shoot me if not the case, only what I've heard. Calf problem.

Anyone else heard this?

[Gator 17,332]

Obviously, I don't know if we're going to win or lose, but I do know that Collingwood are absolute rubbish, so I have a modicum of confidence if our effort is strong. 

[What 18,810]

Matchups

 

Matt Jones to play as a defensive forward on Penelebury if he plays off half back

Heritier on Howe -  run off lazy Jeremy at every opportunity

Bugg to tag Treloar -  knows his game from GWS days

Dunn on Cloke

Jetta on Fasolo

T Mac on Moore

 

 

Expecting

Nathan Brown to Hogan

Oxley to VIney

Goldsack to Watts

Greenwood to Nate Jones

Tyson and Sidebottom to go head to head

Ben Ken and Varcoe to go head to head

 

 

[leave it to deever 17,511]

Bernie is a big loss but maybe kennedy will step up against his old side.howe will play the only good game for pies all year. Watts and hogan win the day.

[leave it to deever 17,511]

I wonder if cwood crowd will boo watts like they did last year. They still think they can put him off his game.

[leave it to deever 17,511]

I miss the mcg. Stuck here in wollongong (not a bad spot) I miss catching the train to the g with my kids to the game. Gettiing on at Elsternwick station with a train always 15 mins late. The nervous expectations. The banter amongst fans. The shelling out of my money on expensive junk food. The roar of the crowd. The wiity comments. The not so witty comments from the other mob. The fingernail biting. The heartbreak. The dispair on the train home. Its all good. What a game.