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Training - Monday 15th February, 2016


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9 minutes ago, mo64 said:

GOTO, if the sub rule was still in place, would Oliver get selected earlier than you anticipate? Highly credentialled/drafted young mids tend to get senior games early on, if they have the necessary class. I'm wondering what Oliver lacks compared to say Brayshaw?

Hopefully, just opportunity. Brayshaw possibly played earlier than Oliver might because of a weaker list overall. 

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19 minutes ago, mo64 said:

GOTO, if the sub rule was still in place, would Oliver get selected earlier than you anticipate? Highly credentialled/drafted young mids tend to get senior games early on, if they have the necessary class. I'm wondering what Oliver lacks compared to say Brayshaw?

Brayshaw really is one out of the box regardless, but he probably played more games than anyone wanted him to, due to injuries.

We lost Vandenburg, Viney, Petracca, Trengove, Kent, Salem, and Tyson at various stages last year.  At the moment all of them are available.  In a way let's hope we don't have to play him too early.  We have enough history of putting players forward before their development allows. 

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1 hour ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Lamumba and Vince must be very close as both seem to be moving very freely.  Lamumba putting in a 3.9 for 50m.  Hope I don't jinx him because Dawes did a 3.6 last week, and look what happened to him.

Can I just say, are you timing this? Because if so, these would be World Record times...

Also, it is Lumumba.

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Couldn't resist dropping into Gosch's this afternoon to see if the rumours about Trengove recently returning to full training were true.
 
H, JKH, Newton, Max King  and Vince were all in rehab although most looked unhindered by their respective aliments and should hopefully be back in full training soon. Newton seems to be moving pretty well at the moment. Still has strapping on his ankle but was running laps with no obvious discomfort. H was doing some 100m sprints. Ran at a good pace and looked sharp, it really looked like he was galloping across the ground. 
 
Petracca seemed to switch between the rehab group and full training a couple times. Had his knee strapped as well (although this might be for his injury last year). Not sure where he is in terms of his fitness and if a NAB Challenge game or Round 1 are possibilities.
 
In the main group, Captain Jones was the only noticeable absentee. As mentioned in earlier reports, today's drills were heavily focused on efficient ball movement. An early drill I took note of involved an in-close game of 'keepings off' where one group would quickly hand pass to each other while being pressured by the other group. 
 
O McDonald and Weideman made a couple blues here where their hand passes were smothered. Frost impressed me here. For a big lad, he has fast hands and can hit a target. He also nonchalantly hammered a 60m torp through the big sticks while waiting for the next round to start. Neal-Bullen also looked really sharp here.
 
Next drill involved the full ground and players leading and kicking the ball to each other around the oval. Players would rotate around the oval as they completed their kick. Players in the forward group would lead up to the ball and then have a shot. There was a great moment when Stretch nailed a bullet pass to Weideman who subsequently played on, straightened, and kicked the goal through the big sticks. Kent, Dunn and Salem all looked especially classy here. For those wondering (like myself), yes, Trengove is in full training at the moment. Looks completely at home with no discomfort whatsoever. He kicked with his right foot. 
 
There was also some one on one training where Mitch King, T. McDonald, Hogan, Hulett and Weideman would pair up and compete to mark or spoil the ball. Although Weideman looked a bit out of his depth against McDonald, at times he showed great signs of his one on one ability. At one stage he completely out manoeuvred McDonald and marked in front of him. 
 
The final drill I stayed for was general match simulation practice. Jayden Hunt looked absolutely brilliant here, he has a real knack for breaking away from the pack with his speed (think Sam Blease but with more muscle and grunt). Laid some fantastic tackles and at one stage completely outplayed his opponent by spoiling his mark, subsequently crumbling the ball and delivering a brilliant pass to Sam Weideman who proceeded to kick the goal from a tight angle.
 
I left soon after. All in all, the group is looking classy and starting to knuckle down for their first NAB Challenge match in 12 days time.
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44 minutes ago, tasmanlvr said:

 

On the near-side wing there’s an interesting quartet – Tom McDonald, Sam Weideman, Mitch King and Cam Pedersen. All four are working on their one-on-ones. The inclusion of Pedersen as a defender intrigues me in a sense, given that a lot of our supporters rate him as a forward higher than even Dawes. Then again, with Frost coming in and Pedersen still (in my eyes anyway) a member of the best 22, you have to put him somewhere. Anyway, I can’t help but admit that it’s pretty exciting seeing Weideman manage to beat McDonald in a one-on-one. As for King, he is regularly outpointed by McDonald, highlighting how much development he needs to get games. It’s a very eye-opening experience seeing the difference between a developing forward and a top-line defender.

 

I think it was actually Hulett in this drill tasman, but I can understand the confusion because he's a man child and almost as big as Pedersen already.

It's worth noting that Hulett's competitiveness shone through. He doesn't like to get beaten 

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Here is a nice little update about training today:  

Jack Trengove takes major step forward, but two Dees injured at training

Some snippets:

- An upbeat Trengove, 24, trained alongside his teammates through almost the entire two-and-a-half hour session, before exiting Gosch's Paddock when match simulation started ... Trengove looked sharp in the full ground ball movement drills and received plenty of encouragement from teammates.

- While Trengove's presence on the track was a sight for sore eyes for Demons supporters, apparent ankle injuries to Tom Bugg and Dean Terlich were not.

- Jack Watts was back in full training after a modified fortnight period of rehab, due to a sore knee.

- However, skipper Nathan Jones was absent.

- Christian Petracca (toe) and Heritier Lumumba (ankles) continued their rehab programs away from the main group.

- The highlight of Monday's session came from youngster Jayden Hunt whose superb chase down tackle is exactly why he is considered a smoky for round one.

Very encouraging for Jack and absolutely fab for Jayden!

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1 hour ago, george_on_the_outer said:
1 hour ago, FireOath said:

Can I just say, are you timing this? Because if so, these would be World Record times...

Also, it is Lumumba.

 

The times are for the middle 50m over 100m.  So they are going full tilt at the point timing starts. 

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Great reports! 

My interest, belief and confidence in this team is usually peaking about this time in February. Before crushing defeats and a big injury toll give way to a round 1 belting . A belting  that it brings in both the start of early signs of winter, reveals how carried away I actually was and  shows just how far off the pace we truly are.  BUT....this year feels genuinely feels different.  Less blind hope and more, at least it SEEMS, reasoned confidence. 

Not counting the established players that I feel we can fully count on Jones etc etc  , there is Kent, Petracca, Trengove, Hogan, Dyson, Viney, Brayshaw, Gawn, Benken, Hunt,  the weed and Oliver ( eventually) as well as the new game plan, etc etc ETC. Just SO many players and things to look forward to watching this year.  I look at the coaches and see Roosy, Goodwin and McCartney...( I cant ever remember seeing an array like that at this club) I look at the admin team and see Jackson. 

I know its Feb and I know I shouldn't say stuff like this solely on the back of promising training reports....(mad) but if my heart could talk it feels like 1987 all over again. 

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1 hour ago, george_on_the_outer said:

The times are for the middle 50m over 100m.  So they are going full tilt at the point timing starts. 

Even allowing for being mid 50m, I would be amazed if Dawes could run 3.6 secs for 50m without a cyclone behind him, a steep downhill decline and a skateboard! 

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3 hours ago, tasmanlvr said:

Couple of other things I take out of it

 

-There is an intraclub on Friday at Casey Fields at around 9:45 in the morning

 

-Following the Dees/Dogs game at Craigieburn on the 6th of March there will be a practise match involving the women’s teams

Can anyone confirm this? I'd like to go, but the trip needs certainty!. Not evident on the club's site.

(Ditto the women's game. If you haven't seen one, I recommend!)

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22 minutes ago, small but forward said:

Maybe it was Dawes in the Plucka  Duck costume doing the ad where he skateboards down the hill (at 3.6 secs for 50m)

Plucka has better hands and is less injury prone.

Sorry Chris .... I do like you :wub:

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For those inquiring about the intra-club match, this is from mfc website:

MELBOURNE will hold an intra-club/match simulation session on Friday morning at Casey Fields
The hit-out will start at 9:45am.
This will be in preparation to Melbourne’s NAB Challenge opener against Port Adelaide at Playford Alive Oval, Elizabeth on Saturday, February 27 (1:35pm).
Friday morning will feature a combination of match practice and skills training.
The Casey Demons will also hold a BBQ on the day.

 

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