The Diet

[Bitter but optimistic 21,181]

Had 14 Roast Chickens ,5 kilos of Cashews ,3 lambs,Half a Cow and a Roo.

as well as some peas and lettuce.

I now actually also live in a cave.

You're disgusting Biffen!

[Chook 14,422]

To those following these Paleo-type diets, wondering what you're doing for breakfast?

Suggestions?

I have two teenagers at home. We're vegetarian, have always been healthy-eaters, but do enjoy our pastas and Saturday night pizzas. Not sure how far I could push it!

(A gnat's under 6 foot, 64 kg ... do a lot of fairly serious bike riding)

Skip it. The way I do my paleo, I don't end up feeling hungry until dinner time (especially if I have a cup of coffee or two in the morning). I don't know if that'll work for you, but for me food in the morning does more harm to my energy levels than none at all.

Another pro is that it lets me sleep in for a little longer.

Edited December 9, 2014 by Chook

[Its Time for Another 4,051]

I went on it just over three weeks ago just before the press about D's using it but after I read about Shane Watson and the cricket team. As I posted earlier my neighbour has been on it for two years and raving. I'm dropping just under 2kg's a week. Feeling a lot less bloated and digestion and bowl movements are a lot better.

I have to say I don't really feel like I'm on a diet. I'm never hungry and am eating a lot less. Probably not eating enough fat yet. Definitely not hungry mid morning and not having those mid afternoon lags. I could see myself staying on this for the long term without thinking twice. I'm never like that with diets normally. I cycle regularly and my times have been dropping since I went on it. I've set a couple of PB's although I've been getting out a lot more recently anyway and had dropped a few kg's before I started on this.

I can't see the downside of dropping the amount of sugar you consume and grains that now that I'm not on them seem to have been blocking up my system. I'm can't get my head around eating too much fat so I'm happy to eat that in reasonable moderation. With plenty of vegetables and salads and some fruit I can't see the problem.

I'm no Dr or scientist so I'd be interested to know what those who are and are wary of it say the dangers of the above are.

[ben russell 764]

To those following these Paleo-type diets, wondering what you're doing for breakfast?

Suggestions?

I have two teenagers at home. We're vegetarian, have always been healthy-eaters, but do enjoy our pastas and Saturday night pizzas. Not sure how far I could push it!

(A gnat's under 6 foot, 64 kg ... do a lot of fairly serious bike riding)

Breakfast for me generally consists of a piece of fruit. Then before lunch I have different piece of fruit and some cashews.

When I have time to cook which is usually on the weekend it's bacon, eggs and avocado.

[P-man 13,154]

I am not into fancy diets but I have lost 23 kilos in 12 months.......I was inactive, had a beer gut and was lazy ....drank to much beer....ate all the fast foods I could get because I was too lazy to cook for myself......I then went to the doctors and she told me that diabetes was just around the corner and my blood pressure was about to go off the scale.

I then changed my attitude.....I joined a Gym.......Ate a whole lot better(no Macca's No Hungry Jacks) cut down all sugars and breads,.....Started cooking good for you foods.....Walked the dog a lot more(Boy is he a happy chappie now)

What I am trying to say Is that "Every thing in MODERATION".....I love pasta dishes but I only have them as a treat now....Instead of ice cream I have yogat for dessert.

I am now 88kgs.......and that's not bad for a bloke that 6'3' .....That was my playing weight when I retired at 36....Also only have a beer on Sundays with friends and you know what?.......I feel great....The Doctor is as pleased as punch.......and as I'm in my early 60's, I can look forward to the rest of my retirement in good health....

Great stuff Boss. Well done.

[Red and Bluebeard 2,030]

Read the TS thread.

Here is something for you then, Redleg --- Paleo banana muffins!

[Its Time for Another 4,051]

To those following these Paleo-type diets, wondering what you're doing for breakfast?

Suggestions?

I have two teenagers at home. We're vegetarian, have always been healthy-eaters, but do enjoy our pastas and Saturday night pizzas. Not sure how far I could push it!

(A gnat's under 6 foot, 64 kg ... do a lot of fairly serious bike riding)

I do a protein powder, super foods powder, fruit and coconut water or milk as a shake. Does me comfortably till lunch. My neighbour does two eggs which is probably more strictly Paleo than what I'm doing. We had the powders sitting around and I have a few more weeks of them left. After that I'll probably go to the eggs although there are also shakes with greens like kale that you can have with a raw egg that I might have a go at later.

[What 18,810]

cutting bread, potato and pasta from my diet is the best thing ive ever done

and it was easy as

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

[dee-luded 2,958]

An addition to the above.

Went to my doctor today and asked about "the P Diet"

He said there is mounting evidence that too much Carbo and sugar is not good for you and some elements of PD are correct.

When I said that is not what you told me two years ago he said well new info comes in all the time.

I rest my case.

PS he said of course you realise there is not enough meat to feed 6 billion people.

My answer: there is if we eat humans.

Hmm there might yet be a use for Collingwood supporters.

take away shipping & not many on foot, can have all the foods we currently have in our supermarkets.

some may have plenty meat, some plenty grains, some plenty fish... but not many get all food groups in abundance together. dare say if they did, they would start to die of 'too much'.

point is apparently mod er ation?

protein or grains, but maybe not together... maybe alternate each food-type per dinner.

[Dinosaur Rover 197]

My 10 cents worth

My paleoish diet is to lower carbs for dinner which can mean that for 18 hours (lunch to breakfast) the body works on lunch carbs and dinner of protein veg and fruit

Avoid fast food and sugary drinks including fruit juice (same sugar coke?)

Exercise wont help much on weigh t loss but gym work builds muscle and muscle has energy demands even when not doing work - so maybe your baseload / resting metabolic rate is higher with some lean muscle on board

Im 6' 2" and 86 kg and no pencil neck

Edited December 10, 2014 by Dinosaur Rover

[FarNorthernD 5,839]

cutting bread, potato and pasta from my diet is the best thing ive ever done

and it was easy as

My wife and I have the same diet HH that we call the No White Sh it diet. Same as yours except we add rice and, for me, beer. I admit I don't find it particularly easy but it certainly does the trick.

[mrtwister 650]

To those following these Paleo-type diets, wondering what you're doing for breakfast?

Suggestions?

I have two teenagers at home. We're vegetarian, have always been healthy-eaters, but do enjoy our pastas and Saturday night pizzas. Not sure how far I could push it!

(A gnat's under 6 foot, 64 kg ... do a lot of fairly serious bike riding)

I love breakfast and couldn't get through the morning without it. The following takes a bit of prep every 5 or 6 days depending on your batch size but will fill you up until lunch.

Can just use normal honey or replace with maple syrup, can also experiment with diff rent dried fruits (banana, chopped dates etc). Can even try different nuts.

Tastes awesome with almond milk.

http://www.paleocupboard.com/granola.html

Edited December 10, 2014 by mrtwister

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

PALEO DIET LISTED AS ONE OF THE WORST FOR YOUR BODY:

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/bda-releases-top-5-worst-celebrity-diets-to-avoid-in-2015/story-fneuz8zj-1227153552000

ARE YOU a fan of the paleo diet? Well, it turns out what you’re eating is no better than drinking your own urine.

The British Dietetic Association (BDA) has revealed its annual list of the top five celebrity diets to avoid in 2015. The paleo diet came in second, only to be beaten from the top spot by urine therapy, the Bear Grylls-endorsed practice of drinking your own urine for “cosmetic, medical or wellbeing purposes.”

The paleo diet advocates eating like cave men did, meaning no processed foods, no grains or legumes, dairy or sugar. It was the most Googled diet in 2013 and paleo cookbooks — such as Pete Evans’ The Paleo Chef — have become bestsellers.

The Dieticians Association of Australia echoes the BDA’s sentiment. Australia’s leading nutritional body has long campaigned against the paleo diet, advocated by celebrity chefs like Pete Evans, and says it is dangerous.

“I think we’ve got to realise that the average age of cave men was 25 years old,” a spokeswoman for the DAA, Julie Gilbert, told news.com.au. “So while the paleo diet might have supported them, that diet is not going to support us where our life expectancy is into our 80s.

Ms Gilbert says diets such as paleo only work because you are cutting out entire food groups and therefore reducing your overall kilojoule consumption.

“Any diet that cuts kilojoules will end up in weight loss. But you don’t have to cut out whole food groups — like grains or dairy — to achieve that,” she said.

“It’s really frustrating that we, as a group of accredited dietitians, keep telling people what to do — eat more vegetables, eat two pieces of fruit a day — but they don’t want to follow proven scientific results. They’d rather the quick, celebrity-endorsed fix that’s got no scientific backing, and in some cases, are quite dangerous.

“Do your research. Just because it says celebrity, does not mean [the diet] is based on any scientific evidence. There are some really good diets out there that have the support of dietitians, such as the Mediterranean diet and the low-GI diet.”

Celebrity chef and paleo advocate Pete Evans says he is highly amused by the BDA’s list.

“Is someone taking the [censored]? I usually don’t post things like this [the BDA list] but I couldn’t stop laughing,” he wrote on his Facebook page on Thursday.

“I am slightly [censored] off by the urine drinkers for taking out first place ... Maybe next year we can beat them to top place, but not at their own game ... ewww!”

Since revealing in 2012 that he loves to eat activated almonds, Evans has found himself defending the paleo diet from critics who believe the movement is dangerous and too expensive for the average person.

[old dee 22,816]

Why am I not surprised that the defenders of status quo have surfaced.

Just more Diet information confusion.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Why am I not surprised that the defenders of status quo have surfaced.

Just more Diet information confusion.

exactly. For the record i am not taking sides here, just providing information for people to make up their own minds.

[daisycutter 28,460]

PALEO DIET LISTED AS ONE OF THE WORST FOR YOUR BODY:

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/bda-releases-top-5-worst-celebrity-diets-to-avoid-in-2015/story-fneuz8zj-1227153552000

ARE YOU a fan of the paleo diet? Well, it turns out what you’re eating is no better than drinking your own urine.

The British Dietetic Association (BDA) has revealed its annual list of the top five celebrity diets to avoid in 2015. The paleo diet came in second, only to be beaten from the top spot by urine therapy, the Bear Grylls-endorsed practice of drinking your own urine for “cosmetic, medical or wellbeing purposes.”

The paleo diet advocates eating like cave men did, meaning no processed foods, no grains or legumes, dairy or sugar. It was the most Googled diet in 2013 and paleo cookbooks — such as Pete Evans’ The Paleo Chef — have become bestsellers.

The Dieticians Association of Australia echoes the BDA’s sentiment. Australia’s leading nutritional body has long campaigned against the paleo diet, advocated by celebrity chefs like Pete Evans, and says it is dangerous.

“I think we’ve got to realise that the average age of cave men was 25 years old,” a spokeswoman for the DAA, Julie Gilbert, told news.com.au. “So while the paleo diet might have supported them, that diet is not going to support us where our life expectancy is into our 80s.

Ms Gilbert says diets such as paleo only work because you are cutting out entire food groups and therefore reducing your overall kilojoule consumption.

“Any diet that cuts kilojoules will end up in weight loss. But you don’t have to cut out whole food groups — like grains or dairy — to achieve that,” she said.

“It’s really frustrating that we, as a group of accredited dietitians, keep telling people what to do — eat more vegetables, eat two pieces of fruit a day — but they don’t want to follow proven scientific results. They’d rather the quick, celebrity-endorsed fix that’s got no scientific backing, and in some cases, are quite dangerous.

“Do your research. Just because it says celebrity, does not mean [the diet] is based on any scientific evidence. There are some really good diets out there that have the support of dietitians, such as the Mediterranean diet and the low-GI diet.”

Celebrity chef and paleo advocate Pete Evans says he is highly amused by the BDA’s list.

“Is someone taking the [censored]? I usually don’t post things like this [the BDA list] but I couldn’t stop laughing,” he wrote on his Facebook page on Thursday.

“I am slightly [censored] off by the urine drinkers for taking out first place ... Maybe next year we can beat them to top place, but not at their own game ... ewww!”

Since revealing in 2012 that he loves to eat activated almonds, Evans has found himself defending the paleo diet from critics who believe the movement is dangerous and too expensive for the average person.

that quote about cave men living to 25 and connecting it just to diet was a very cheap (and un scientific) shot

if we took the advice of the heart foundation dieticians and lived on red tick foods we would be worse off than paleo

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Like anything, doing something to the extreme isn't great but I'm sure most people can cut back on bread, pasta and sugar it and will do them good.

Edited December 12, 2014 by Clint Bizkit

[rjay 23,876]

that quote about cave men living to 25 and connecting it just to diet was a very cheap (and un scientific) shot

if we took the advice of the heart foundation dieticians and lived on red tick foods we would be worse off than paleo

Read it again 'daisy', they are not linking the life expectancy to the diet. I thought this at first.

They are saying with the greater life expectancy now that a diet needs to support someone living into their 80's, not mid 20's.

[daisycutter 28,460]

Read it again 'daisy', they are not linking the life expectancy to the diet. I thought this at first.

They are saying with the greater life expectancy now that a diet needs to support someone living into their 80's, not mid 20's.

even so, that in itself doesn't prove that a paleo diet is only suitable for the first 25 years

anyway the 25 years is speculative and an average anyway. given that so many died in the first few years the mean deviation would be quite substantial

also, it strikes me as quite logical that a different (even if only slightly) diet at different times in one's lifespan where requirements change, makes sense

as clint says it doesn't have to be something taken to religious extremes

at the end of the day it is probably horses for courses, but i agree with od that most dieticians don't have a good track record nor all the answers

[Brayshaw Self 847]

So the only drawbacks are that it is time-consuming, expensive and may require you to take calcium supplements? May as well drink your own urine, I suppose.

Maybe the AFLPA will campaign for a 'Cost of Paleo Allowance'

[nutbean 8,837]

the neanderthals actually had a bigger brain than current hominids

Thats' because they never went on end of season footy trips

[What 18,810]

“I think we’ve got to realise that the average age of cave men was 25 years old,” a spokeswoman for the DAA, Julie Gilbert, told news.com.au. “So while the paleo diet might have supported them, that diet is not going to support us where our life expectancy is into our 80s.

this is the worst logic I've ever seen

[daisycutter 28,460]

So the only drawbacks are that it is time-consuming, expensive and may require you to take calcium supplements? May as well drink your own urine, I suppose.

Maybe the AFLPA will campaign for a 'Cost of Paleo Allowance'

or a urine allowance for those so inclined?

makes one question the meaning of a "wet nurse"

[Chook 14,422]

this is the worst logic I've ever seen

It's almost as bad as "Hitler did X, therefore X is wrong."

Edited December 12, 2014 by Chook