Changes v Collingwood

[barneymfc 152]

It's broken...

idiot

[barneymfc 152]

Well thats not true

David Neitz made the AA team as both a back and a forward, and theres other examples of guys who switched or can play both ends equally well

Steve Silvagni another prime example. Matt Pavlich also made the AA team as a back and then a forward

mcdonald is no where near a neitz or pavlich

[KingDingAling 3,758]

I think we should just concentrate on fast tracking some kids now, and giving Michie a decent run at it.

Use the rest of the year to sort through the chaff, see who it is worth putting time into.

Give White and Hunt a run in the ones. St Kilda played more first year players than we did on the weekend.

We need to unearth some new young talent, step them up and get them in there.

I'd like to see ANB start in the midfield, give Michie a decent run in there.

If need be, rest Jones or drop Tyson. It is most important we fast track some young talent.

[rjay 24,995]

idiot

You think it's not broken?

It is and rather than accept it then things need to change.

I would start with Dawes out and a small/medium in. Tommy Mc forward/ruck...we can't see how well Tommy handles the forward line until he gets a run at it without Dawes taking up space.

[old dee 23,801]

only seems like yesterday mcdonald was up for AA selection as a backman now you want him to be a chf ,forwards are forwards backmen are backmen

I think you missed the point of my comment Barney.

I was referring to the Smart ( I think humorous ) comment rjay made.

Nothing to with player ability.

[Fat Tony 5,256]

B Howe, Dunn, Jetta
HB Lumumba, Garland, Grimes
C Watts, Vince, M Jones
HF Stretch, Hogan, Harmes
F T McDonald, Dawes, Garlett
Fol Gawn, Viney, N Jones
Int Tyson, Cross, Michie, Brayshaw (sub)

In: M Jones
Out: Vandenberg

• Dawes and Hogan are too slow to play in the same forward line, but we don’t have any depth and I don’t like the idea of two ruckmen.
• We don’t have enough pace and we need to pick some additional outside runners like M Jones, JKH and/or Hunt. I have just gone for Jones.
• Vandenberg is out of touch and needs a run in the VFL.
• Tyson’s kicking is poor, but the potential replacements are worse.
• Brayshaw needs a rest and starts as sub. Stretch probably needs a rest too, but that would make us slower.
• Tom McDonald starts forward for the rest of 2015.

[What 18,810]

mcdonald is no where near a neitz or pavlich

I know I was just giving an extreme example

[dazzledavey36 55,004]

My biggest pet hate and one thing that pisses me off is that we bring in the likes of Harmes Riley Vandenberg ANB Newton and even Brayshaw who are all good inside attacking midfielders and they leave them on a half forward for majority of games.

give the likes of VandenBerg and Harmes a decent crack in the middle even ANB aswell. They have proven at VFL level they can win big numbers of the ball yet they think its better to plonk them on a half forward and leave them there for most of the game..!

Look at Vandenberg when he played as an on baller all game against WB. 29 Disposals 10 tackles and a big reason why we won the game because of his ferocity at the contests and hardness.

[barneymfc 152]

just on hogan,he had better realise he is the new boy in town and pull his head in,he is just a kid and knows nothing about afl yet,hope he wakes up soon or could end up like col,just one more pre season

[Fat Tony 5,256]

My biggest pet hate and one thing that pisses me off is that we bring in the likes of Harmes Riley Vandenberg ANB Newton and even Brayshaw who are all good inside attacking midfielders and they leave them on a half forward for majority of games.

give the likes of VandenBerg and Harmes a decent crack in the middle even ANB aswell. They have proven at VFL level they can win big numbers of the ball yet they think its better to plonk them on a half forward and leave them there for most of the game..!

Look at Vandenberg when he played as an on baller all game against WB. 29 Disposals 10 tackles and a big reason why we won the game because of his ferocity at the contests and hardness.

We are playing too many inside mids and need to recruit some pace and class.

Vandenberg needs to go back to the VFL and find some footy.

[What 18,810]

We are playing too many inside mids and need to recruit some pace and class.

Yes this is a big issue

[dazzledavey36 55,004]

just on hogan,he had better realise he is the new boy in town and pull his head in,he is just a kid and knows nothing about afl yet,hope he wakes up soon or could end up like col,just one more pre season

Pfft rightio mate.

Hogan has already achieved more in one season then Col did in his whole career

[barneymfc 152]

Pfft rightio mate.

Hogan has already achieved more in one season then Col did in his whole career

crap

[P-man 13,366]

I'd just like to see I'd like to see McDonald back, Howe forward, with Michie, Vanders and Nibbler in the middle. Players in their most natural positions. It seems to be a lot to ask for.

[old dee 23,801]

I'd just like to see I'd like to see McDonald back, Howe forward, with Michie, Vanders and Nibbler in the middle. Players in their most natural positions. It seems to be a lot to ask for.

P-man can you tell me please where is Dawes natural position?

[barneymfc 152]

P-man can you tell me please where is Dawes natural position?

left back[in the rooms]

[barneymfc 152]

left back[in the rooms]

dawes is another needly left over

[dazzledavey36 55,004]

dawes is another needly left over

Wow.. quoting yourself..

crap

Yea comparing a first year player who is only 20 years old and played only 14 games to a guy that kicked his missus in the face and got on the turps hard every weekend.. plus the laziness and lack of work ethis Col showed his whole career.. right..

Try again

[P-man 13,366]

P-man can you tell me please where is Dawes natural position?

Anyone's guess at the minute. If he's playing well, CHF. This is also Hogan's most natural position, but because Dawes couldn't outmark a leprechaun, Hogan is forced into playing closer to goal.

We badly need another key forward.

[barneymfc 152]

Wow.. quoting yourself..

Yea comparing a first year player who is only 20 years old and played only 14 games to a guy that kicked his missus in the face and got on the turps hard every weekend.. plus the laziness and lack of work ethis Col showed his whole career.. right..

Try again

grow a brain,col at the same age was going to be a super star

[dazzledavey36 55,004]

grow a brain,col at the same age was going to be a super star

What are you on about you absolute peanut!? Col showed nothing in his first couple of years to suggest he was on the verge of being a superstar. What did you like about his amazing 1 handball debut game? Hogan has already shown he has the makings of the next J Brown. Like all young players he has flaws he needs to work on but he has the right attitude and work ethic to do.

Col doesn't and never did. Is that to much for your pea little brain to work that out?

FMD!

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,816]

grow a brain,col at the same age was going to be a super star

What are you on about you absolute peanut!? Col showed nothing in his first couple of years to suggest he was on the verge of being a superstar. What did you like about his amazing 1 handball debut game? Hogan has already shown he has the makings of the next J Brown. Like all young players he has flaws he needs to work on but he has the right attitude and work ethic to do.

Col doesn't and never did. Is that to much for your pea little brain to work that out?

FMD!

We really need to start winning more games to stop this sort of go-nowhere conversation among friends.

[old dee 23,801]

We really need to start winning more games to stop this sort of go-nowhere conversation among friends.

The MFC will do that to you!

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Big names out.....well, big for the MFC.

Tyson

Dawes

Grimes

Garland

Ins....whatevs.

[Je Roos Salem 661]

Two definite outs for mine. Dawes and Stretch. Harmes perhaps too but I've seen more from him than Stretch in the past 2 weeks. Newton/Riley/Salem/Toumpas (latter 2 if fit) and a ruck back into contention. Dawes is a waste of space on the field, he's shown he can work hard (for a while), but he's too big and gets in the way of Hogan (and McDonald when he's there) constantly, who are greater threats. We need space in the forward line. We can't get that with Hogan and Dawes there together. We can try two genuine rucks again as the only time it didn't work was in Darwin. Brayshaw's looked tired for 3 weeks so maybe sub him but I'd still like to see him.