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On 4/7/2016 at 10:30 AM, Demon3 said:

Very interested to hear that Wayne Carey will spend some time with Jesse Hogan over the coming weeks. I believe Goodwin is behind it and its very much a Football mentoring role.. some instructional work.. forward line movement. I think its a good move, a bit unlike Melbourne, but its Goodwin again on the front foot.

Great news. Need to leave no stone unturned with his development. A Carey lead finishing school will do wonders. It will also help towards a "lock" at the negotiation table. Some decent wins between now and then also needed though. Go boys go! Just go and dont look back!

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how the hell do i know!
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I am already over this shitz. 

If he wants to stay great and if he wants to leave well then c ya and don't let the door hit u on the way out  

The AFL has created this farkin shitz storm  

 

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38 minutes ago, Peter Griffen said:

I remember that and i strongly believe that was a guess. and far far different to this situation

How is this any different.

I laugh at people that have a crack at others for saying what realistically could potentially happen in the next couple of years. Langdon is very good friends with Hogans manager so i have no doubt that maybe he has some information from them.

Just because he is still contracted for another year doesn't that can stop him from asking for a trade.

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1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

How is this any different.

I laugh at people that have a crack at others for saying what realistically could potentially happen in the next couple of years. Langdon is very good friends with Hogans manager so i have no doubt that maybe he has some information from them.

Just because he is still contracted for another year doesn't that can stop him from asking for a trade.

What doesn't add up, to me, is what has changed in a few months.  He happily signed on at the end of 2014 and, if he really wanted out, he could have gone to the club and demanded a trade.  Nothing happened.  He completed an excellent pre-season and is just starting to get back into form, giving no indication that he wants to be back in Perth at all costs.

Langdon has hit the mark before, but he's also been waaaaay off as well.  He is a Perth native who, of course, would want to see someone like Jesse come home.  I just can't take him all that seriously.

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On 4/15/2016 at 8:51 PM, dazzledavey36 said:

How is this any different.

I laugh at people that have a crack at others for saying what realistically could potentially happen in the next couple of years. Langdon is very good friends with Hogans manager so i have no doubt that maybe he has some information from them.

Just because he is still contracted for another year doesn't that can stop him from asking for a trade.

I'd suggest not for long if he gets told something and goes running his mouth about it on twitter, that doesn't help anyone, especially Jesse. 

It's different because Woosha at the time had gone from not wanting to coach at all, to working at the crows and started to get some passion back, Hird right in the firing line, it wasn't a huge stretch

Jesse on the other hand, the public message we're getting is nothing but loyalty to the MFC, for him to leave would be a backflip on that, making it a very different situation, his manager said not that long again that Jesse is loyal to the MFC and now his " mate " is saying his next contract will be in Perth. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Roost It said:

I'm not investing any emotion into Hogan. He's 50 50 at best to stay. He's the classic pay to play player. My guess is he's leaving and I don't believe it will ruin us

I agree, you need to thin what we could get for him. Surely would have to be decent. Obviously i want him to say, but you need to have a back up plan.

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Just now, The Song Formerly Known As said:

not if you think what we could get for him. Surely would have to be decent. Obviously i want him to say, but you need to have a back up plan.

He'll either sign a massive deal with us at years end or he's gone. Pick 1 to 5 plus a quality player

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Hoges is contracted until end of season 2017. Would want Neale  plus a top 5 pick plus a first rounder the next year - so good is Hoges. Freo is ageing and could be on the decline. Why would he leave a club on the rise if his pay is ok. Plus Freo have to fit McCarthy and Hooker if they go there in the CAP. Cannot see it happening.

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11 minutes ago, manny100 said:

Hoges is contracted until end of season 2017. Would want Neale  plus a top 5 pick plus a first rounder the next year - so good is Hoges. Freo is ageing and could be on the decline. Why would he leave a club on the rise if his pay is ok. Plus Freo have to fit McCarthy and Hooker if they go there in the CAP. Cannot see it happening.

There is another Perth club you know.

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1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

There is another Perth club you know.

Yes, but they already have quality tall forwards, would struggle to fit him in the CAP and would need to trade good players away to get picks to trade for Hogan. Cannot see WCE interested unless they are prepared to give up Kennedy which will not happen.

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1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

How is this any different.

I laugh at people that have a crack at others for saying what realistically could potentially happen in the next couple of years. Langdon is very good friends with Hogans manager so i have no doubt that maybe he has some information from them.

Just because he is still contracted for another year doesn't that can stop him from asking for a trade.

The reason why what Langdon says sounds like BS is because he says that if Hogan could be playing in Perth now he would be.

Fact is Hogan could be playing in Perth if he wanted to, yet he signed a contract extension towards the end of 2014.

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39 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

There is another Perth club you know.

Done the rounds on this one already (I think even on this thread). Darling and Kennedy still have enough footy left in them that it would make it really hard to fit him in now.

And I just can't see how they'd fit him under the cap.

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33 minutes ago, AngryAtCasey said:

The reason why what Langdon says sounds like BS is because he says that if Hogan could be playing in Perth now he would be.

Fact is Hogan could be playing in Perth if he wanted to, yet he signed a contract extension towards the end of 2014.

Well its 2016 now not 2014. Things have changed in his life. We don't know whats currently going through his head compared to 2014 when he hadn't played a single game.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Roost It said:

He'll either sign a massive deal with us at years end or he's gone. Pick 1 to 5 plus a quality player

screw picks! 2 x A graders are needed if he leaves! we know that he will be a star. draftees are unreliable and take time. 

i can't believe that i'm even entertaining the thought that he will leave... i don't think it will happen and i sure as hell don't want to see it happen. he's a good guy and has unlimited potential. for anyone suggesting that he's just here to get the big bucks, that is a real cynical way to look at the situation. he's been in melbourne for years now and has mates here and they are hopefully growing together. if we are still in our quagmire in a few years he'll go, but we should be sweet for the moment.

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