The Incredible Hulk - Jesse Hogan

[chook fowler 18,187]

If he wants to go they'll need to seek a trade. Who would you want?

Tony Lockett

[PaulRB 5,897]

CC doing a good job of raising interest in what's predicted to be a one-sided game, raised interest equals more attending equals more $$$ to MFC. I've got no problem with him stirring it up a bit...

[Moonshadow 16,155]

Jessie would've learnt a lot playing on McFarlane. Good to see him travelling up the ground to get involved when we were struggling with inside 50's.

[ManDee 7,073]

Jessie would've learnt a lot playing on McFarlane. Good to see him travelling up the ground to get involved when we were struggling with inside 50's.

I agree, Jesse will be the better for it. It's a shame he has to take the best defender each week, plus having Freo dropping a player back in front of him. Jesse is a winner.

[Lucifers Hero 36,988]

This should be music to all our ears: "Hogan, 20, is not out of contract until 2017, but the Demons are likely to move next year to re-sign the West Australian, with the West Coast Eagles and Fremantle expected to pitch major offers to lure him home."

Read the story here: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/demons-wary-of-making-hogan-a-young-hero-says-chief-20150506-ggvmll.html

Great to see the club will be on the front foot to sign up Jesse.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

This should be music to all our ears: "Hogan, 20, is not out of contract until 2017, but the Demons are likely to move next year to re-sign the West Australian, with the West Coast Eagles and Fremantle expected to pitch major offers to lure him home."

Read the story here: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/demons-wary-of-making-hogan-a-young-hero-says-chief-20150506-ggvmll.html

Great to see the club will be on the front foot to sign up Jesse.

yup, we need to.

The good thing though is that if he was to be "poached", he must be traded and sadly if he did go we would want to receive massive trades for him.

[Frosty Demon 153]

Sign him for 10 years, $15 million and move all his family friends extended family to Melbourne

An excellent idea! Does he have any brothers?

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

An excellent idea! Does he have any brothers?

I think so, well he is always referring to them anyways

[SaberFang 7,141]

After the Boyd deal you'd think a long-term, high 6 figure sum could comfortably be on the table from the club. He could end up our highest paid player within a few years.

Though I can just as easily see Hogan's management agreeing to a 3 year extension which will take him through to free agency (assuming the AFLPA get their way and reduce the minimum years of service to 6/7 years.)

Does Hogan's first year in the VFL count as one year towards his FA eligibility? If not, his current contract commitment takes him to 4 years.

[Dwight Schrute 16,746]

7 years at 1.2 mil a year, set him up for life financially, he knows we've invested a ton In him so I'm sure he wants to see this through

[Members' Wing 1,106]

7 years at 1.2 mil a year, set him up for life financially, he knows we've invested a ton In him so I'm sure he wants to see this through

So make him the highest paid player in the competition?

That would be insane.

[Dwight Schrute 16,746]

Guarantee that is the sort of offer another side will make if we don't.

This kid is that good!

[Henrietta Lumbago 331]

Guarantee that is the sort of offer another side will make if we don't.

This kid is that good!

His versatility and competitiveness is where he is better than others like Boyd and Patton, his skills are equally as good if not better...

[daisycutter 28,480]

Does Hogan's first year in the VFL count as one year towards his FA eligibility? If not, his current contract commitment takes him to 4 years.

according to some media comments re the franchises' underagers, yes i think it does

[Members' Wing 1,106]

Guarantee that is the sort of offer another side will make if we don't.

This kid is that good!

Not saying he's not going to be a great player but making him the best paid player in the comp at 22 would be absolutely absurd

[The Stigga 879]

Not saying he's not going to be a great player but making him the best paid player in the comp at 22 would be absolutely absurd

Sure, but then he'd be off to Freo.

[Dwight Schrute 16,746]

Boyd has shown a quarter of us much and is on a mil a year, hogan is already in our top 5 players off the back of 5 games, imagine another 2-3 years time when he's ooc, could easily be the dominant forward of the Comp

[Monocology 1,107]

Freo don't need Jesse. We do.

Front foot won't mean anything without big coin.

High drafts as compensation are swapping a known for the unknown. My goldfish even know that now.

Just hope we see less of Jesse being [censored] off with the likes of the delivery he was getting on Sunday.

[SaberFang 7,141]

We're at least another two drafts of mediocre/lower-tier finishes on the ladder away from building a young midfield that can challenge within 4 or 5 years.

Depends how well we nail the next two recruitment periods while Roos still has his foot in the door. It only took the Dogs about 3 years of nailed draft picks to be where they are now. Not a single wasted pick.

[KingDingAling 3,592]

Freo don't need Jesse. We do.

Front foot won't mean anything without big coin.

High drafts as compensation are swapping a known for the unknown. My goldfish even know that now.

Just hope we see less of Jesse being [censored] off with the likes of the delivery he was getting on Sunday.

Freo will NEED Jesse, they'll have cap space once Pav, Sandilands, McPharlane, Mundy, Crowley and Johnson retire.

But they will be also a less appealing proposition for young Jesse.

Without those experienced players, Fremantle will not be the side they are today. Those players I mentioned are ALL key position players.

So while they might have Fyfe, Hill, Neale, they will not have the dominate KP players they have today.

They will need Jesse, they will have money, but they won't be in a better position going forward than the MFC - who will also have money.

This is an easy decision for Hogan, he isn't silly. Jesse Hogan is the very least of our worries.

I worry more about getting Trengove and Petracca healthy, because those 2 players healthy - are like bonus top 5 picks.

[Lucifers Hero 36,988]

Freo will NEED Jesse, they'll have cap space once Pav, Sandilands, McPharlane, Mundy, Crowley and Johnson retire.

But they will be also a less appealing proposition for young Jesse.

Without those experienced players, Fremantle will not be the side they are today. Those players I mentioned are ALL key position players.

So while they might have Fyfe, Hill, Neale, they will not have the dominate KP players they have today.

They will need Jesse, they will have money, but they won't be in a better position going forward than the MFC - who will also have money.

This is an easy decision for Hogan, he isn't silly. Jesse Hogan is the very least of our worries.

I worry more about getting Trengove and Petracca healthy, because those 2 players healthy - are like bonus top 5 picks.

Sorry to put a dampner on the Freo not being so good after the older guys retire. Ross learnt his lesson at St K and at Freo has been quietly stockpiling talent! Have a read of this:http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-30/no-kids-allowed-ross-lyons-masterplan-mark-ii Extracts:

"....(Freo) have not only recruited well but have developed their recruits along the way...The Dockers’ little known and little utilised players outside the main 22 have been well sourced. We don’t know much about them now, but we will in years to come. Lachie Weller, Connor Blakely, Hayden Crozier, who was keeping Matt de Boer out of the senior team last year, Max Duffy, Tommy Sheridan and rookie Jacob Ballard would be getting games for a lot of other AFL clubs right now....the composition of Fremantle’s list makes for interesting reading. Again using last weekend’s (Peel Thunder) team, three players were top 10 in the national draft and a further four were taken between picks No.19 and 25".

Freo will be a power club for many years and will be scary good on and off the field. I doubt we will match them on either.

Every club will make salary cap room to get Jesse. We (and other clubs) will also need to counter the go home factor and the pull of winning a premiership with the club he supported all his life. He will need to want to stay. If we don't consistently win and climb the ladder so he can have confidence of real success with us, no amount of money will keep him.

I'm glad the club is doing all it can to make Jesse happy and settled off field. If he is happy the contract extension will take care of itself. We will know by end of next year whether or not he extends. I fear for my (and Dee supporters) health if he doesn't and a pandemic of MFCSS sets in.

Edited May 6, 2015 by Lucifer's Hero

[What 18,810]

We have put so much time into Jesse, 2 years o him not being able to play, all the rehab and all we gave up to enter the mini draft to get him.

I really hope he realizes how much we have invested in him and I hope he wants to play with his mates and help the MFC to success.

Lifting the Demons out of the cellar will surely be a lot more rewarding than taking the easy option and going to Freo or West Coast,

[Lucifers Hero 36,988]

On a brighter note: "Demons young gun Jesse Hogan is planning to stay put when his current contract expires at the end of 2017. Both his family and management yesterday denied he would consider moving home to Western Australia, as reported in Perth last weekend". http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/demon-jesse-hogan-has-no-plans-to-leave-melbourne/story-fnca0u4y-1227339416389

That report I like

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,416]

Sorry to put a dampner on the Freo not being so good after the older guys retire. Ross learnt his lesson at St K and at Freo has been quietly stockpiling talent! Have a read of this:http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-30/no-kids-allowed-ross-lyons-masterplan-mark-ii Extracts:

"....(Freo) have not only recruited well but have developed their recruits along the way...The Dockers’ little known and little utilised players outside the main 22 have been well sourced. We don’t know much about them now, but we will in years to come. Lachie Weller, Connor Blakely, Hayden Crozier, who was keeping Matt de Boer out of the senior team last year, Max Duffy, Tommy Sheridan and rookie Jacob Ballard would be getting games for a lot of other AFL clubs right now....the composition of Fremantle’s list makes for interesting reading. Again using last weekend’s (Peel Thunder) team, three players were top 10 in the national draft and a further four were taken between picks No.19 and 25".

Freo will be a power club for many years and will be scary good on and off the field. I doubt we will match them on either.

Every club will make salary cap room to get Jesse. We (and other clubs) will also need to counter the go home factor and the pull of winning a premiership with the club he supported all his life. He will need to want to stay. If we don't consistently win and climb the ladder so he can have confidence of real success with us, no amount of money will keep him.

I'm glad the club is doing all it can to make Jesse happy and settled off field. If he is happy the contract extension will take care of itself. We will know by end of next year whether or not he extends. I fear for my (and Dee supporters) health if he doesn't and a pandemic of MFCSS sets in.

I don't think there is any guarantee that those players mentioned will be able to play to the level their senior players are now. When those players come into the side they are given a very small role and have star players like Fyfe, Mundy, Barlow all to shield them. Once some of those are gone they are then expected to step up, which not all of them will be capable of doing.

A couple of years ago I remember reading how the cats had drafted well with guys like Smedts, Horlin-Smith etc. Fast forward to now and those players really don't look that great once they are expected to do more.

I think it is underestimated just how important the top 5-6 players of a side are.

[What 18,810]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/demon-jesse-hogan-has-no-plans-to-leave-melbourne/story-fnca0u4y-1227339416389

Demons young gun Jesse Hogan is planning to stay put when his current contract expires at the end of 2017. Both his family and management yesterday denied he would consider moving home to Western Australia, as reported in Perth last weekend.

Hogan’s Melbourne-based agent, Matt Bain of Stride, said the go-home factor was not an issue with his client.

“He has no intention of going home to WA or anywhere else,” Bain said. “He’s more than happy here in Melbourne.”

Early days still but nice to hear! I must say I do get a loyal vibe from Jesse.

I dont get any of the feelings from him that I did from Scully or Frawley or the like.

Greg Denham also takes the opportunity to lay the boots into Chris Connolly in that article - might be some bad blood between them?