Dion Prestia

[Whispering_Jack 30,054]

I was never convinced that Prestia was high on our priority list once the asking price started to balloon. You don't pay that sort of money for players with questionable fitness. Richmond's medical team must believe he's worth the risk because the advice I had more than a year ago was that any club that entertained the idea of recruiting either O'Meara or Prestia would have to conduct a very thorough medical examination of the state of the knees of the players in question. 

That doesn't necessarily mean that they will never again be capable of playing god football again but at the high levels of payment their management are commanding, it's a risk and I see no reason why a club with young up and coming midfield talent would need to take such a risk.

[Ted Lasso 19,513]

On 8/20/2016 at 7:06 AM, Whispering_Jack said:

I was never convinced that Prestia was high on our priority list once the asking price started to balloon. You don't pay that sort of money for players with questionable fitness. Richmond's medical team must believe he's worth the risk because the advice I had more than a year ago was that any club that entertained the idea of recruiting either O'Meara or Prestia would have to conduct a very thorough medical examination of the state of the knees of the players in question. 

That doesn't necessarily mean that they will never again be capable of playing god football again but at the high levels of payment their management are commanding, it's a risk and I see no reason why a club with young up and coming midfield talent would need to take such a risk.

Added to this is the seemingly high likelyhood Richmond will part with pick 6 in order to get Prestia, they gave up a high pick for Yarren so really they're nailing their own coffins. 

I just think they are desperate to sign a big name of any sort just so they don't become totally irrelevant and they have something to sell going into next year

[Redleg 40,907]

6 minutes ago, Abe said:

Added to this is the seemingly high likelyhood Richmond will part with pick 6 in order to get Prestia, they gave up a high pick for Yarren so really they're nailing their own coffins. 

I just think they are desperate to sign a big name of any sort just so they don't become totally irrelevant and they have something to sell going into next year

Also to keep the baying horde appeased with the Board and Admin.

[Deecisive 1,709]

Not sure they can give pick 6 for prestia, after all collingwood will be asking for pick 6 and their second round pick for Cloke.

[SaberFang 7,151]

Collingwood have handled the Cloke situation soooo badly. They have no leverage at the trade table after treating him publicly with such disdain. Very reminscent of the Garlett/Malthouse situation at Carlton, though obviously with a far better player.

[Lord Travis 10,729]

3 hours ago, SaberFang said:

Collingwood have handled the Cloke situation soooo badly. They have no leverage at the trade table after treating him publicly with such disdain. Very reminscent of the Garlett/Malthouse situation at Carlton, though obviously with a far better player.

You're right. Garlett is a lot better

They have shot themselves in the foot though. They can't expect to get any decent return on an old bloke they've dropped multiple times.

[Lucifers Hero 39,758]

Was anyone else seriously in the hunt for him, this year?

Dion must be kicking himself for not taking our offer last year.   On every criteria we are better for him (except maybe $$).  I have visions of him sitting with his family barracking for the Dees in the GF thinking: I should be out there in red and blue!

But he took too long, we moved on. Such Is Life!

Edited August 20, 2016 by Lucifer's Hero

[SaberFang 7,151]

2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Was anyone else seriously in the hunt for him, this year?

Dion must be kicking himself for not taking our offer last year.   On every criteria we are better for him (except maybe $$).  I have visions of him sitting with his family barracking for the Dees in the GF thinking: I should be out there in red and blue!

But he took too long, we moved on. Such Is Life!

Yep, and we ended up with a 12+ year player in Oliver, versus a 6+ year player in Prestia (assuming we didn't trade our 2016 first rounder for him). Either way, it's worked out just fine without Prestia.

[Mach5 4,767]

7 hours ago, SaberFang said:

Collingwood have handled the Cloke situation soooo badly. They have no leverage at the trade table after treating him publicly with such disdain. Very reminscent of the Garlett/Malthouse situation at Carlton, though obviously with a far better player.

But... Cloke had salary incentives within his contract that kicked in if he was to play a certain amount of games this season, and I have heard his barely playing has saved them hundreds of thousands.

[Red and Blue Flame 186]

On 8/19/2016 at 10:47 AM, Die Hard Demon said:

I agree with this..

I also think that Prestia is a very limited player.. Similar to the likes of Wines. He had an amazing first year, but has hit his peak. Players like Oliver, Petracca and Brayshaw have a much larger scope for improvement. And the uncertainty of an injury prone player is not worth the 600k price tag.

Gee - if you watched the Showdown tonight, you'd take that back. Wines is an absolute GUN

[deanox 9,915]

1 hour ago, Mach5 said:

But... Cloke had salary incentives within his contract that kicked in if he was to play a certain amount of games this season, and I have heard his barely playing has saved them hundreds of thousands.

If that is the car the AFLPA should be all over this. 

Could easily mount a case for him to be best 22 in more weeks than selected. 

[faultydet 7,594]

13 minutes ago, deanox said:

If that is the car the AFLPA should be all over this. 

Could easily mount a case for him to be best 22 in more weeks than selected. 

The AFLPA is a sick joke. They proved this beyond doubt during the essedon drugs affair.

Smart move by colonwood to not play him if it saves them hundreds of k salary, although I was always under the impression that money was no object to them.

Edited August 20, 2016 by faultydet
more drunk than I thought

[Skuit 10,031]

With Prestia nominating Richmond there's suddenly a big question mark over his footy smarts and decision making. .

[Redleg 40,907]

16 minutes ago, Skuit said:

With Prestia nominating Richmond there's suddenly a big question mark over his footy smarts and decision making. .

But not his financial acumen or negotiating skill.

[Mickey 4,684]

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

But not his financial acumen or negotiating skill.

Not really...

Dion: I want to be a tige but I want 700k a year for 5 years

Richmond: we're glad you picked us but we're concerned about your knee...

Dion: then I'll choose the Pies

Richmond: have 1mil over 10

Dion: ?

[Ethan Tremblay 30,856]

10 hours ago, Skuit said:

With Prestia nominating Richmond there's suddenly a big question mark over his footy smarts and decision making. .

He clearly has shithouse decision making skills, he chose Richmond.

[spirit of norm smith 16,450]

Yes I believe Tigers offer is $750,000 over 4 years... $3million. Ridiculous really but they are desperate!!

[Redleg 40,907]

Early days we were clearly into Dion, but since the knee injury, the high salary demands and the improvement in our midfield, I think we cooled very quickly.

Must say I am not disappointed. 

[Adam The God 30,239]

Doesn't seem like we've cooled on him, we're just not prepared to match Richmond's inflated offer. If we want to keep our midfield/team together we can't afford to. 

[Redleg 40,907]

1 hour ago, A F said:

Doesn't seem like we've cooled on him, we're just not prepared to match Richmond's inflated offer. If we want to keep our midfield/team together we can't afford to. 

I think you agree with me, but don't realize it. 

[Adam The God 30,239]

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

I think you agree with me, but don't realize it. 

I'm not sure we do Red. You insinuate we've stopped trying to lure him...

[Redleg 40,907]

3 hours ago, A F said:

I'm not sure we do Red. You insinuate we've stopped trying to lure him...

I am sure we have no interest in him whatsoever, at his salary demand, as I said earlier. What makes you think any different?

[Adam The God 30,239]

The feeling is we've gone cold on Dion because we haven't heard anything about us chasing him in the media, right? But we know how smoothly Mahoney and co work. We don't leak. So there's just as much chance we haven't 'gone cold' on him, but people would prefer to think we have if we're going to lose him to another club. It's all defence mechanism again.

[Members' Wing 1,106]

4 minutes ago, A F said:

The feeling is we've gone cold on Dion because we haven't heard anything about us chasing him in the media, right? But we know how smoothly Mahoney and co work. We don't leak. So there's just as much chance we haven't 'gone cold' on him, but people would prefer to think we have if we're going to lose him to another club. It's all defence mechanism again.

But Adam the bottom line is if we desperately wanted him like we have for the past 2-3 years we'd be getting him.

Why would any player, much less one whose entire family are mad Melbourne supporters, choose richmonds list over ours?

It's blindingly obvious we've cooled on him. If we were desperate to land him we'd be paying him what he wants like Richmond are.

Edited August 24, 2016 by Members' Wing

[Red and Blue Flame 186]

Where's GNF? I'm not try to be facetious, but is he still coming to the Dees?