2014 Rookie Draft

[Roger Mellie 3,481]

With Pick 2 etc in the rookie draft here are some of those who missed out in the draft:

Keenan Ramsey (SA – Def)

Height: 192cm, Weight: 86kg, DOB: 23/08/1996
Recruited from: Port Adelaide

Tyler Keitel (WA – KPF/KPD)
Height: 194cm, Weight: 86kg, DOB: 07/02/1996
Recruited from: East Perth

Josh Glenn (SA – Mid/Def)
Height: 179cm, Weight: 77kg, DOB:
Recruited from: Central Districts

Oleg Markov (SA– Fwd)
Height: 186cm, Weight: 69kg, DOB: 08/05/1995
Recruited from: North Adelaide

Jake Johansen SA -Fwd
Height 170 cm DOB 13-06-1996
Weight 60 kg Port Magpies

Peter Bampton (Norwood)
Born 15.4.1996, 182cm, 83kg
Midfielder

Also Sean McLaren

Others?

[Roger Mellie 3,481]

Wilkinson is another

[ChaserJ 3,956]

Not sure if he get's picked up but like Jermaine Miller-Lewis.

Brendan Abbott's another one.

Dare I say it…Tyler Roos.

Edited November 27, 2014 by ChaserJ

[Roger Mellie 3,481]

DD's Mellington

And yes Roos Junior

[Mad_Melbourne 872]

Brett Eddy. We need another KPF and he is the best of the rest, give him a run at Casey and see if he can develop after having good years in the SANFL.

Then an ex-afl player, I'm thinking Jordan Schroder. This is for injury cover and basically will slot into that immediate upgrade that Trengoves long term injury presents

[beelzebub 22,225]

Matthew Panos

ready to roll

[Lord Travis 10,135]

I like Peter Bampton from SA. He's a tough midfielder with good endurance and leadership. Would be a good rookie option to add to depth and help drive good standards and culture.

[ThreeOneSix 953]

How the hell Josh Glenn missed out is beyond me.

Glenn would deadset buy and sell most kids in this draft.

Maybe there is more to Glenn holding back from previous drafts, not sure.

[obbafan 128]

How good is it to be speculating as to what rookies to choose knowing what we now have. Joy!

[DeeSpencer 23,051]

Jason Costagna - speedy half back

Oleg Markov - x factor forward flank

Matt Hammellman - promising young tall

Will Fordham - 188cm running mid

Nic Newman - 187cm skillful half back from Frankston

They are some of the ones I like. In terms of adding immediate impact to the team I think Newman might be the best bet. If we are going for more development then maybe look towards a tall and then a mid like Fordham.

[spirit of norm smith 12,829]

Yes we have two picks at 2, 20.

At 2 its either

Tom Wilkinson for a Robbie Gray type with speed and goalkicking

or Nic Newman as a tough skilled Beau Waters type HBF.

At 20, its either Matthew Hammelman as marking fwd / ruck or Rowan Marshall also ruck/fwd to help Max Gawn in 2016 onwards. Both will develop like Max King. We will need an agile ruckman to top off our rise

Edited November 27, 2014 by spirit of norm smith

[spirit of norm smith 12,829]

Did the big raw key forward McKenzie end up being taken?

Yes by tigers with a late pick.

[spirit of norm smith 12,829]

How the hell Josh Glenn missed out is beyond me.

Glenn would deadset buy and sell most kids in this draft.

Maybe there is more to Glenn holding back from previous drafts, not sure.

I think his SA factor as a go home after passing last year's draft is the reason.

[MadAsHell 4,088]

I was originally keen on Tanner Smith, but with us landing Oscar, I don't see him as someone to go after anymore.

As the first poster mentioned, Keenan Ramsay with Pick 2, rebounding defender with good run and ball use, and can also play a 3rd/4th tall.

Brett Eddy Pick 20. We need something in the bank in case we have any injury issues with Dawes/Hogan

[CBDees 3,162]

As a speculative pick with a double agenda, why not go for Tyler Roos? Not only can he play but it will extend and expand his father's committment to this Club beyond 2016!

Tyler Roos (Sandringham Dragons)

Height: 185cms
Weight: 73kgs
Position: Medium Midfielder
Strengths: Endurance, ball-winning ability, clean hands, speed, agility, vision and awareness, versatility.
Areas for Improvement: Consistency over four quarters, disposal efficiency and composure.

As is the case with eligible father/sons, interest is cast on the basis of their famous fathers who made a name for themselves during their heyday. But for Tyler Roos, he doesn’t want his surname to define him, nor does he want any special treatment. A talented midfielder who is blazing his own trail, stepping out from the safety of his 350-game father and premiership coach, Roos is already laying his own roots down and preparing for a potential career in which his dad won five best and fairests at Fitzroy.

Given Paul played 269 game at Fitzroy, the Lions have complete access to Tyler since Paul played just 87 games for the Swans, 13 shy of the amount required to lay claim to a him potential father/son.

But as much as the Brisbane Lions – and Fitzroy – is entrenched in Roos’ blood, so too are the Swans. After all, Sydney are the club that his father would break a 72-year premiership drought at, creating a culture that signified a new era and breed of those who pulled on the red and white.

And it’s that very culture and attitude Roos grew up with, an attribute entrenched in his football DNA throughout his junior career. Discipline, hard work, courage and sacrifice – four traits that stemmed to Roos junior throughout his father’s coaching career, but also during his time at the Swans Academy team.

The high-production midfielder made the move to Victoria when his father was inaugurated coach of the Melbourne Football Club, and since being named in the best for 14 out of his 19 games for UNSW/ES Bulldogs in the Sydney Under 18 competition in 2013, he’s starting to flourish in the country’s most prodigious under 18 system, the TAC Cup.

Averaging 22.6 disposals and 3.7 tackles at the mid-way point of the year for the Sandringham Dragons, it took a little time for Roos to find his feet at the top level. However, with the bulk of Sandringham’s list absent for the year with school football commitments, Roos has grown rapidly in confidence and his leadership in particular has been the talking point.

Having played every game so far of the season, it’s a big box to have ticked considering Roos was battling a bulged disc in his back during the pre-season which threatened to delay his year. The carry-on effect was a projected slow start in terms of his output, but he is certainly hitting his straps at the half way point of the season.

After 10 weeks, Roos is really starting to understand what is expected of him at TAC Cup level, especially considering he is benefitting from increased contact time at the club since finishing his year 12 studies last year. His leadership in particular has really come to the fore given the portion of first-choice players lost to the APS system, and it’s for this reason in particular that his development under the watchful eye of Dragons talent manager, Ryan O’Connor, has been so rapid.

It’s clear in the way that Roos conducts himself that he has benefited immensely from being a part of the Sydney Swans Academy, the same Academy that has produced current Swans listed players Brandon Jack, Lloyd Perris and Sam Naismith. It also includes soon-to-be Swan and first round selection, Isaac Heeney, who is on his way in this year’s draft.

However, his coming of age game in his final junior season came just a fortnight ago after amassing 34 disposals against the top of the ladder Oakleigh Chargers in round ten. Despite the slim five-point loss, Roos starred with his run and drive with the ball collecting 11 handball receives, six marks and three tackles and operating at an elite 71 per cent disposal efficiency: season highs on all fronts.

The biggest whack for Roos throughout the season to date, however, has been his disposal efficiency. He averages 8.8 ineffective disposals per game and a disposal efficiency average of 62 per cent across his first ten games. Roos still has some work to do in that capacity, but remaining in the game across four quarters has also been another bugbear. Roos’ past month for the Dragons has seen him average 25.7 disposals at 61 per cent disposal efficiency, but in that time he’s spent increased time through Sandringham’s midfield.

But in terms of what Roos brings to an AFL club, there is plenty to like.

With a strong showing in game one for NSW/ACT in Division Two of the National Championships, Roos has carried over his form and finished with 22 disposals and a goal, being named in the Rams’ best against Northern Territory with a terrific disposal efficiency of 73 per cent. Roos also notched up 18 disposals and five clearances and was again named in the best against Tasmania.

Roos is a gut runner, and does a lot of unrewarded running too in that aspect. He pushes hard to create options, takes off when in space and really understands the momentum of the game, and picks his next move appropriately. Although he’s quite light, his height is suited to the modern game and more specifically speaking has a lot of upside in terms of development, particularly once he can build on his frame to resemble an AFL-ready footballer.

He has been trialled in an array of positions this year, most notably off half back where he’s shown an above average ability to read the ball in flight, track the ball well at ground level and play a defensive role, rather than a rebounding one. He generates run from behind the play, but he looks a prospect when he’s situated through the midfield.

Roos has been blessed with clean hands and elite vision to push a handball through congestion to release a teammate. His work at ground level is of a high standard, and his contested work also rates a mention. Although on the outside composure can escape him – which is a large part of why his disposal efficiency is so low – moving into an AFL system will remove the rushed-type kicking very quickly. For the mere fact he’s shown good scope to win the ball on the inside and the outside, it’s a great start.

In terms of his kicking mechanics, he can at times release the ball a bit higher than average and can sometimes swing the ball around his body, but he also runs at a speed where he doesn’t take the extra few steps to slow down at hit the ball cleanly. He has a whopping kick, penetrating over 50 metres, and he’s quite creative around goal without being a notable goal-kicker himself.

Roos is a terrific set shot, but at this stage he has just kicked three goals for the year, when he’s capable of kicking one or two a game. His link up play, however, is his highlight. He runs hard to space to become a playmaker, before pushing hard again to really open the passage of play up and is every bit a team player.

At this stage, Roos really needs to work on his disposal under pressure but as a midfielder I’d love to see him back himself in to kick a few more goals so that he can add that part of his game to his repertoire.

[ben russell 764]

Best tall forward available at pick 2.

Best available player at pick 20 in the eyes of the recruiting team. I trust these blokes now.

[DeeSpencer 23,051]

Best tall forward available at pick 2.

Best available player at pick 20 in the eyes of the recruiting team. I trust these blokes now.

I'd go the other way. Late round rookie picks as well as late drafted key forwards are often duds. The best ones get picked early.

So I'd be following the lead of the saints last year with Eli Templeton and even our pick of Harmes and really studying who's been unfairly looked over in any position. There's a chance to find a legitimate prospect who should've been top 40 if you pick from through it.

Then for the second pick I think you realise it's really low yield at that range so you may as well draft to a need.

[ben russell 764]

I'd go the other way. Late round rookie picks as well as late drafted key forwards are often duds. The best ones get picked early.

So I'd be following the lead of the saints last year with Eli Templeton and even our pick of Harmes and really studying who's been unfairly looked over in any position. There's a chance to find a legitimate prospect who should've been top 40 if you pick from through it.

Then for the second pick I think you realise it's really low yield at that range so you may as well draft to a need.

Fair call.

I just think that following the trade period and our selections tonight that a back-up key forward is our most pressing need so if we have our eye on a key forward in particular we should snap them up before any of the other 17 teams select them before our next pick.

Then go with the next name on the recruiters list at pick 20.

[rjay 23,846]

As a speculative pick with a double agenda, why not go for Tyler Roos? Not only can he play but it will extend and expand his father's committment to this Club beyond 2016!

Probably more likely to do the opposite. Roos would probably like to let the kid make it on his own, having the old man around the club wouldn't be the best thing.

[samcantstandya 913]

With Pick 2 etc in the rookie draft here are some of those who missed out in the draft:

Keenan Ramsey (SA – Def)

Height: 192cm, Weight: 86kg, DOB: 23/08/1996

Recruited from: Port Adelaide

Tyler Keitel (WA – KPF/KPD)

Height: 194cm, Weight: 86kg, DOB: 07/02/1996

Recruited from: East Perth

Josh Glenn (SA – Mid/Def)

Height: 179cm, Weight: 77kg, DOB:

Recruited from: Central Districts

Oleg Markov (SA– Fwd)

Height: 186cm, Weight: 69kg, DOB: 08/05/1995

Recruited from: North Adelaide

Jake Johansen SA -Fwd

Height 170 cm DOB 13-06-1996

Weight 60 kg Port Magpies

Peter Bampton (Norwood)

Born 15.4.1996, 182cm, 83kg

Midfielder

Also Sean McLaren

Others?

Please redraft Liam Jurrah, he deserves another chance and Jetta could be his mentor.

[Akum 2,660]

What are the chances of rookie-ingTappy?

[Whispering_Jack 27,884]

Here's a list of players who missed out (not including delisted players who might be picked up):-

Brendan Abbott, Aiden Anderson, Peter Bampton, Hugh Beasley, Sam Bevan, Jason Castagna, Daniel Capiron, Aaron Christensen, Adam Cockie, Jack Cripps, Brett Eddy, Billy Evans, Will Fordham, Joshua Fox, Jack Geary, Josh Glenn,Taylor Grace, Liam Griffiths, Matthew Hammelman, Jared Hardisty, Michael Hartley, Caleb Hislop, Dylan Hodge, Jake Johansen, Tyler Keitel, Jordan Kelly, Ryan Lim, Oleg Markov, Jermaine Miller-Lewis, Keenan Ramsey, Tyler Roos, Adam Saad, Ahmed Saad, Haiden Schloithe, Matt Uebergang, Alex Urban, Erin Wasley-Black, Jesse Watchman, Francis Watson, Callum Wilkie, Tom Wilkinson.

[ben russell 764]

What are the chances of rookie-ingTappy?

Not looking likely. Poster 'The Devil Inside' has informed us that he hasn't been training because he has injured himself again.

[Lucifers Hero 36,973]

2 - Matthew Hammelman - one of the best tall forwards

20 - Tyler Roos - after getting Billy Stretch and Oscar McD, I like the romance of continuing the 'family' affair of this draft.

[Deestroy All 14,261]

2 - Matthew Hammelman - one of the best tall forwards

20 - Tyler Roos - after getting Billy Stretch and Oscar McD, I like the romance of continuing the 'family' affair of this draft.

And he's good mates with Brayshaw.

If there are no better options, it couldn't hurt.