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For anyone who cares about player welfare, check out the radio segment in the link below:

With the evidence mounting that concussion is linked to long term brain injuries, contact sports right around the world are on watch. However, the AFL's expert concussion group has consistently attacked the growing evidence, accusing scientists of dodgy research and fear mongering. Wendy Carlisle investigates.

The Concussion Games

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See lots of views, however surprised to see no comments yet, it was a great expose. An easier way to read it is via The Concussion Games transcript

Peter Fitzsimons followed up overnight: Accepting facts on long-term effects of concussions among athletes should be a no-brainer

Highlights the need for independent research into this issue...certainly got the scientific community talking: Repeated head injuries highlight gaps in sports concussion management

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It's a tough one this but I don't believe it's being well handled by the medical profession in our game. To me if a player needs a concussion test then he is not right to come back on, there are enough signs to show the player should not play any further part in the game and maybe even the following game.

I would rather take a conservative approach on this.

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It's a tough one this but I don't believe it's being well handled by the medical profession in our game. To me if a player needs a concussion test then he is not right to come back on, there are enough signs to show the player should not play any further part in the game and maybe even the following game.

I would rather take a conservative approach on this.

I think that the "concussion test" is a starter, but if every player with any head knock were to leave the field for the duration there could be times when there may be few left on the ground.

We have to trust the club doctors, most of whom I believe are ethical professionals who would stand up for the players' health and wellbeing over the demands from the coaching box, at least on match day if not during "preseason preparations", and await further evaluation of the current process, which is an ongoing process I believe.

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I think that the "concussion test" is a starter, but if every player with any head knock were to leave the field for the duration there could be times when there may be few left on the ground.

We have to trust the club doctors, most of whom I believe are ethical professionals who would stand up for the players' health and wellbeing over the demands from the coaching box, at least on match day if not during "preseason preparations", and await further evaluation of the current process, which is an ongoing process I believe.

Was watching Gary Wilson talking about this on open mike a couple of weeks ago, and having been in a similar position as him with numerous concussions I think if someone has been dazed or lose some comprehension for however short a time they should not play a further part in the game.

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Was watching Gary Wilson talking about this on open mike a couple of weeks ago, and having been in a similar position as him with numerous concussions I think if someone has been dazed or lose some comprehension for however short a time they should not play a further part in the game.

I agree that is an ideal situation, but I think it may take a bit more time.

Sadly, a psychopathic player in his final game in a GF could go rampant and put half the opposition into sick bay, which would be tragedy for the integrity of the game but could make him a Premiership hero in the eyes of some supporters at certain clubs. "Whatever it takes"!

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I agree that is an ideal situation, but I think it may take a bit more time.

Sadly, a psychopathic player in his final game in a GF could go rampant and put half the opposition into sick bay, which would be tragedy for the integrity of the game but could make him a Premiership hero in the eyes of some supporters at certain clubs. "Whatever it takes"!

not referring to alistair lynch or mal brown are you?

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Was watching Gary Wilson talking about this on open mike a couple of weeks ago, and having been in a similar position as him with numerous concussions I think if someone has been dazed or lose some comprehension for however short a time they should not play a further part in the game.

I agree that is an ideal situation, but I think it may take a bit more time.

Sadly, a psychopathic player in his final game in a GF could go rampant and put half the opposition into sick bay, which would be tragedy for the integrity of the game but could make him a Premiership hero in the eyes of some supporters at certain clubs. "Whatever it takes"!

I think there are more concussions now in the game, than 15 + years back...?

To me now there are more head-knocks from hitting the ground ball contest hard; & there are more of these contested ground ball scenarios IMO because the players can nowadays cover so much territory running.

I believe because of this fitness/rotations situation, we have more loose contested ball plays with more players getting to the contest, so the first ones go in hard & low. There are more of these contests because of the ability of players to run the ground back & forth, blocking space ahead of the ball, & creating more short kicks/hand-passes, spoils, etc. stoppages.

I truly believe this is another reason to reduce the interchange, so we can get back to more space & more longer kicking to specialist position players.

IMO todays coaches are Drunk on their Abilities to swing changes tactically, & strategically. But the game is less spectacular. Less awe inspiring. Just running machines?


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not referring to alistair lynch or mal brown are you?

Alistair Lynch was a great player; I don't don't think he regularly sent players off on stretchers. He swung many fresh air swings tho, if that troubles you play cricket.

... or we will be without the Jonathon Browns & Locketts & Breretons, Gablett-snrs, for eternity.

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Alistair Lynch was a great player; I don't don't think he regularly sent players off on stretchers. He swung many fresh air swings tho, if that troubles you play cricket.

... or we will be without the Jonathon Browns & Locketts & Breretons, Gablett-snrs, for eternity.

your memory is bad d-l

watch his last game in the gf

he had announced his retirement and went out to headhunt coz he didn't care if he was reported, only cared about win the flag

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your memory is bad d-l

watch his last game in the gf

he had announced his retirement and went out to headhunt coz he didn't care if he was reported, only cared about win the flag

he pretty sure he didn't drop anyone DC, I have that game on recording. He thru a lot of wild-air swings, only grazing the twin, & vica-verca... good theater.

The one you should consider is Dermie crashing the mid-fielders bodies, in big games, coming off the half forwardline at centre bounces. & then the Yeates clean-up on Dermie, against the Catters in GF..

you haven't a taste for the rough stuff, hey DC ?

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he pretty sure he didn't drop anyone DC, I have that game on recording. He thru a lot of wild-air swings, only grazing the twin, & vica-verca... good theater.

The one you should consider is Dermie crashing the mid-fielders bodies, in big games, coming off the half forwardline at centre bounces. & then the Yeates clean-up on Dermie, against the Catters in GF..

you haven't a taste for the rough stuff, hey DC ?

you had better get your memory cells looked at d-l

Lynch announced his retirement after Brisbane's loss in the 2004 AFL Grand Final. It was viewed by some as a disappointing end to his career; he injured his quad early in the game, his only statistic for the day was giving away a free kick which led to Port Adelaide's first goal for the match, and he would have missed the first ten matches of 2005 after being reported a record-equalling seven times for exchanging punches in an all-out fight with Port Adelaide's Darryl Wakelin, for which Lynch was also fined $15,000. Lynch has since admitted significant regret about his behaviour in the match.

Fight still a sore point for Alistair Lynch

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