Essendon v Casey Scorpions

[Whispering_Jack 27,958]

Essendon v Casey Scorpions
Sunday 6th August
Windy Hill at 1:00pm

Essendon

B: Toy Van Unen Gregory
HB: Ashby Pears Dempsey
C: McLeod Colyer Kavanagh
HF: Duscher Steinberg Edwards
F: Tipungwuti Freezer Thompson
FOLL: Tagliabue Heppell M Ambrose
I/C (from) Aylett Coghlan Dalgleish Dell'Ollio Fantasia Jetta Kefford Leggett Mellington Z Merrett O'Brien Shultz Thurlow

Casey Scorpions

B: Jetta Davis Nicholson
HB: Kent Panozza Hunt
C: Evans Trengove Blease
HF: Best Smith Riley
F: Kennedy-Harris King Byrnes
FOLL: Jamar McKenzie Gent
I/C (from) Barry Clisby Ferraro Godfrey Harmes Michie Morris* Page Petropoulos Salem Shiels Tapscott Toumpas

* 23rd player

Casey's AFL Development League team has a bye and plays its first game for 2014 next weekend against Port Melbourne.

[gsmith12 491]

The run on side would be anyone's guess.

[Deeoldfart 7,719]

I'll be taking a keen interest in all the Dees, but I will have a particular focus on Hunt and Riley. I have my fingers crossed that they will be an important part of our future.

[bing181 8,157]

Jamar, McKenzie, good to see back. But still no Garland, who I thought was a possible to play this week.

Obviously he's still 2 or even 3 weeks away from the seniors.

[olisik 4,060]

Looks a chance for MFC listed players to be dropped..

[DeeSpencer 23,088]

No Garland, no Gawn.

Bummer.

[Gorgoroth 12,308]

Trenners named at Casey?

[daisycutter 28,484]

Trenners named at Casey?

they always name the whole provisional bench.......nothing new here

[Gouga 496]

Any one know why Strauss has not been named this week? Not injured according to reports.

[Pennant St Dee 11,250]

Trenners named at Casey?

as was Blease, JKH, Byrnes, Evans & Kent

nothing to see here

[olisik 4,060]

Any one know why Strauss has not been named this week? Not injured according to reports.

Maybe he got dropped

[spirit of norm smith 12,885]

No Strauss, Gawn or Garland.

More mystery injuries.

We know Clark, Hogan, Dawes are all known as injured.

[angrydee 842]

The misleading Misson strikes again

[Dwight Schrute 16,747]

I hope trenners does play VFL might be good for him to dominate and remember what that's like

[nutbean 8,837]

so excited so see Riley on the park.

He is my new smoky to be a gun ( having said that my previous smoky's have been Newton and Bail so I am not batting too well so far - I still hold out hopes that Howe who I singled out the minute he was drafted will provide my redemption)

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,122]

Question re: 2 players pulling out at the last minute:

What happens if a player pulls out on the morning of the game and another player does a Chris Dawes and pulls an injury in the warm up?

Sure we'd have the travelling emergency replace the first player, but who the hell would replace the player who pulled out at the last minute, given that the other 2 are in Melbourne playing for Casey at the same time? Surely we'd be forced to play 1 short.

VFL games should be played on different days to the seniors, particularly when the seniors are interstate.

[rjay 23,884]

Question re: 2 players pulling out at the last minute:

What happens if a player pulls out on the morning of the game and another player does a Chris Dawes and pulls an injury in the warm up?

Sure we'd have the travelling emergency replace the first player, but who the hell would replace the player who pulled out at the last minute, given that the other 2 are in Melbourne playing for Casey at the same time? Surely we'd be forced to play 1 short.

VFL games should be played on different days to the seniors, particularly when the seniors are interstate.

I would prefer them to fix the bye. It must have been difficult to get games into injured players and a form line on who should come in when Casey don't start their season until this week.

[Slartibartfast 15,752]

so excited so see Riley on the park.

He is my new smoky to be a gun ( having said that my previous smoky's have been Newton and Bail so I am not batting too well so far -

I agree Nut. Riley is a tackling machine and a really hard at it mid and I'm keen to see him. Always held out more hope for him than Michie who has struggled to have any influence.

Spoke to someone in the know yesterday who said 11 of our players laid 4 tackles between them on Sunday. Cross laid 12. Embarrassing. McKenzie and Riley will be welcome additions to the team when fit as whilst they are not glamorous they are tough, they have a go and they tackle.

I reckon Ro Bail has got a really bad rap here. He's a bottom best 22 player and yet people are judging him on the basis he has to be better than that. He runs all day, he get the ball (which players like Byrne, Howe, Michie and a few others don't) and when he does get it he runs forward trying to create. There isn't a player in the team who hasn't butchered the ball this year and Bail is far from the worst. And not many have created play like Bail did for the JKH goal on Sunday which was about our best play of the season. Bail started it.

He won't be a world beater but he has a go, he runs all day, he's tough at the ball and his skills aren't as bad as being portrayed here. He played loose in defence in the 4th quarter last week and did well. Under the "lets throw them about" strategy of Roos this week I reckon there is a good chance he'll play spare in defence or midfield.

[daisycutter 28,484]

I agree Nut. Riley is a tackling machine and a really hard at it mid and I'm keen to see him. Always held out more hope for him than Michie who has struggled to have any influence.

Spoke to someone in the know yesterday who said 11 of our players laid 4 tackles between them on Sunday. Cross laid 12. Embarrassing. McKenzie and Riley will be welcome additions to the team when fit as whilst they are not glamorous they are tough, they have a go and they tackle.

I reckon Ro Bail has got a really bad rap here. He's a bottom best 22 player and yet people are judging him on the basis he has to be better than that. He runs all day, he get the ball (which players like Byrne, Howe, Michie and a few others don't) and when he does get it he runs forward trying to create. There isn't a player in the team who hasn't butchered the ball this year and Bail is far from the worst. And not many have created play like Bail did for the JKH goal on Sunday which was about our best play of the season. Bail started it.

He won't be a world beater but he has a go, he runs all day, he's tough at the ball and his skills aren't as bad as being portrayed here. He played loose in defence in the 4th quarter last week and did well. Under the "lets throw them about" strategy of Roos this week I reckon there is a good chance he'll play spare in defence or midfield.

agree about bail last week

he was one of the few who broke the lines and didn't just slavishly look to give off a crap handball or kick backwards. showed a bit of positivity and pace too

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,392]

I agree Nut. Riley is a tackling machine and a really hard at it mid and I'm keen to see him. Always held out more hope for him than Michie who has struggled to have any influence.

Spoke to someone in the know yesterday who said 11 of our players laid 4 tackles between them on Sunday. Cross laid 12. Embarrassing. McKenzie and Riley will be welcome additions to the team when fit as whilst they are not glamorous they are tough, they have a go and they tackle.

I reckon Ro Bail has got a really bad rap here. He's a bottom best 22 player and yet people are judging him on the basis he has to be better than that. He runs all day, he get the ball (which players like Byrne, Howe, Michie and a few others don't) and when he does get it he runs forward trying to create. There isn't a player in the team who hasn't butchered the ball this year and Bail is far from the worst. And not many have created play like Bail did for the JKH goal on Sunday which was about our best play of the season. Bail started it.

He won't be a world beater but he has a go, he runs all day, he's tough at the ball and his skills aren't as bad as being portrayed here. He played loose in defence in the 4th quarter last week and did well. Under the "lets throw them about" strategy of Roos this week I reckon there is a good chance he'll play spare in defence or midfield.

Also agree about Bail, but I don't think he's a forward. I would have thought he'd be better as a tagger or back pocket type.

[Maggot 1977 263]

I'm almost more excited to find out how Casey go rather than the Dess at this stage. If I lived in Melbourne im sure id be there on Saturday knocking of a few cold ones

[binman 37,897]

I haven't posted anything about last weeks game as i have been (and remain) just too deflated by it. And BB your stat about 11 players having 4 tackles between them sums up why. I haven't even looked at the stats but i'd be guessing Michie and the Toump are among them. In Roos' list of nonnegotiables i reckon tackling would be number 1. As BB says embarrassing. Its one reason why i'm really surprised McKenzie is not in this weeks side as Misson said he was pretty close to cherry ripe.

I suspect a reason McKenzie wasn't picked (and the Toump and Michie were dropped) was because of his pace.. Our lack of pace was completely exposed on the big spaces of the G last week. It is a big problem.

But not as big a problem as the players mental state. How they could not have been up for last weeks just staggers me. They were half asleep in the first quarter and their skill was as bad as i can ever recall it throughout the match. What was really surprising is that Roos showed faith and took an unchanged side in to the match. And they repaid him with tripe.

A few other comments about the game.

• Trengove has to go in the middle.
• I am a Watts fan but he was woeful last week in terms of effort . Again Roos has shown faith in him and he should have repaid it - he is now a senior player. Some of his efforts (tackling. standing off packs, not going at the ball carrier) were plain embarrassing
• Frawley is great one on one in marking duels but his disposal is horrible and he made worse by his him often taking high risk options
• Dunn was terrific and reiterate my claim he is in our top 8 players and absolutely should be on the DL banner - get rid of Howe (who seems to have gone backwards) and Frawley (leader my arse) from the banner for a start

And finally i have to say:

• Jones can butcher the ball but that was one of the best games i've ever seen from a MFC player. Not the most damaging but for pure guts and refusal to lie down up with some of the great games i watched Flower play through the dark days of the 70's and 80's. The mark of a great player in my view is one who plays best when their team is getting thumped. Respect. Frawley, Watts et al - that's what leadership is about.

Edited April 4, 2014 by binman

[jnrmac 18,940]

And finally i have to say:

• Jones can butcher the ball but that was one of the best games i've ever seen from a MFC player. Not the most damaging but for pure guts and refusal to lie down up with some of the great games i watched Flower play through the dark days of the 70's and 80's. The mark of a great player in my view is one who plays best when their team is getting thumped. Respect. Frawley, Watts et al - that's what leadership is about.

+1

[Young Dee 1,302]

I haven't posted anything about last weeks game as i have been (and remain) just too deflated by it. And BB your stat about 11 players having 4 tackles between them sums up why. I haven't even looked at the stats but i'd be guessing Michie and the Toump are among them. In Roos' list of nonnegotiables i reckon tackling would be number 1. As BB says embarrassing. Its one reason why i'm really surprised McKenzie is not in this weeks side as Misson said he was pretty close to cherry ripe.

I suspect a reason McKenzie wasn't picked (and the Toump and Michie were dropped) was because of his pace.. Our lack of pace was completely exposed on the big spaces of the G last week. It is a big problem.

But not as big a problem as the players mental state. How they could not have been up for last weeks just staggers me. They were half asleep in the first quarter and their skill was as bad as i can ever recall it throughout the match. What was really surprising is that Roos showed faith and took an unchanged side in to the match. And they repaid him with tripe.

A few other comments about the game.

• Trengove has to go in the middle.
• I am a Watts fan but he was woeful last week in terms of effort . Again Roos has shown faith in him and he should have repaid it - he is now a senior player. Some of his efforts (tackling. standing off packs, not going at the ball carrier) were plain embarrassing
• Frawley is great one on one in marking duels but his disposal is horrible and he made worse by his him often taking high risk options
• Dunn was terrific and reiterate my claim he is in our top 8 players and absolutely should be on the DL banner - get rid of Howe (who seems to have gone backwards) and Frawley (leader my arse) from the banner for a start

And finally i have to say:

• Jones can butcher the ball but that was one of the best games i've ever seen from a MFC player. Not the most damaging but for pure guts and refusal to lie down up with some of the great games i watched Flower play through the dark days of the 70's and 80's. The mark of a great player in my view is one who plays best when their team is getting thumped. Respect. Frawley, Watts et al - that's what leadership is about.

Really? Jones is about the only player I trust with ball in hand. I think he has become a very good penetrating kick.

[binman 37,897]

Really? Jones is about the only player I trust with ball in hand. I think he has become a very good penetrating kick.

He can be but he misses a lot of targets and can sometimes bomb away and cause a turnover.

Edited April 4, 2014 by binman