Training - Wednesday 26th February, 2014

[jazza 1,323]

Isn't this footy 101?

Yep but we have been skipping that class for thepast 7 yrs.....

yes it is footy speak and normal tactics.

but recently we went for the mad scientist new age theory of football thinking madness strategy.

it didnt work out so well.

now weve gone back to,

keep the pill.

dont give it up,unless it gets killed boundry side.

we are kicking that way .

kick it to the big fella.

keep it simple stoop.

strange this man paul roos

[Akum 2,660]

Pedo did his left hamstring (grade 1) and shouldn't play Friday. Hogan right low-back-buttock soreness, but continued on modified.

Good drills...learnt a bit today.

Lot of "v-leading" near the boundary. Lot of half and full ground running drills. They also share the ball, but not to the point of inefficiency. They look for the handball receiver on the move. The defenders are often asked to close down space as well. Stafford did a bit with the rucks for the whole time; boundary throw-ins, and contested stuff deep near forward 30.

Roos just in encouraging mode. Clapping effort...even after clangers.

Excuse the ignorance but I'm not sure what you mean by "V-leading".

[beelzebub 22,225]

Isn't this footy 101?

I would have thought so...but then I thought a lot of what we are now hearing as "new" training is , or ought to be ...footy 101 !!

[CBDees 3,162]

Pedo did his left hamstring (grade 1) and shouldn't play Friday. Hogan right low-back-buttock soreness, but continued on modified.

Good drills...learnt a bit today.

Lot of "v-leading" near the boundary. Lot of half and full ground running drills. They also share the ball, but not to the point of inefficiency. They look for the handball receiver on the move. The defenders are often asked to close down space as well. Stafford did a bit with the rucks for the whole time; boundary throw-ins, and contested stuff deep near forward 30.

Roos just in encouraging mode. Clapping effort...even after clangers.

Pedo has just been named in the squad heading to the Alice so it cannot be too bad.

[rpfc 27,391]

Excuse the ignorance but I'm not sure what you mean by "V-leading".

I assume he means when two players lead from the same spot but in different directions - in the form of a V.

It helps when you can't move the ball quickly and/or the other team is pressing. It is slow going and can be brought down by those without the skill to do it consistently.

[Machsy 2,856]

I'm actually amazed that he hasn't developed stress fractures in his feet (even the good one!)

I'm reliably told that stress fractures would develop if he hadn't been doing a lot of running, to harden up his feet.

Stress fractures will occur when a great load is applied without building up to it first.

[TGR 1,367]

Excuse the ignorance but I'm not sure what you mean by "V-leading".

Best way to sum it up on here is....

I have ball in hand at left half-back. You are standing in centre circle. You first run (away) toward left half-forward (same side), then dart back for the hit up toward me.

I am going to ring up SEN and ask your question in relation to "structures"; the most over-referred to...least understood terminology in football.

[TGR 1,367]

Pedo has just been named in the squad heading to the Alice so it cannot be too bad.

A. Grade 1 isn't too bad.

B. He wont play.

[monoccular 16,017]

His job is to yell:

2nd conditioning guy: 'what are your legs?'

Mitch Clark: 'Springs, steel springs'

2nd conditioning guy: 'What are they gonna do?'

Mitch Clark:'They're going to hurl me down the track.'

2nd conditioning guy: 'How fast can you run?'

Mitch Clark: 'As fast as a leopard'

Sure you aren't referring to Oscar Pistorius?

Just don't let Mitch near a pistol - that would be the last straw :-(

Light training with a slippery ball. What I liked most was the exercise where the ball is cleared out of the back line by a group of 5 or 6 players running full tilt the length of the ground providing options. Very different from the past where, once a pass was completed, the player would stand with their hands on their hips getting their breath back.

Did not see Gawn, Garland, Tapscott, Dawes, Strauss...they might have been there but I didn't see them. Fair few skill errors but understandable given the ball was wet. I might have also mentioned that we seem to have a strategy that if a player is leading towards goal, the ball is put over their head so that they can run on and mark it. If, on the other hand the player is leading away from goal, the ball is put either on the chest or in front of the leading player so that they can at least have a chance of picking it up on the bounce. It must be so frustrating leading towards a player at full tilt and then to have the ball sail over your head to the advantage of the defender.

Friday will be interesting.

Basic, but very novel for recent MFC teams. I am really looking forward to seeing it in real matches.

[binman 37,796]

I am going to ring up SEN and ask your question in relation to "structures"; the most over-referred to...least understood terminology in football.

Could not agree more. Players are often the worst culprits - he just reinforced sticking to our structure, we lost our structures, structure was key blah blah.

But much worse when commentators (especially ex footy players who just love to highlight their tactical nouse and that the fact they once were warriors - dermie being the proze example o this tiresome phenomenon ) say it because it is usually not clear what they mean by it . The job of the commentator is to MAKE THINGS CLEAR! not use made up footy babble words.

[TheoX 1,218]

Pedo did his left hamstring (grade 1) and shouldn't play Friday.

Pedo shouldn't play full stop (unless we have a very very very long injury list)

Edited February 26, 2014 by TheoX

[DeeSpencer 23,061]

Pedo shouldn't play full stop (unless we have a very very very long injury list)

No Clark, Dawes, Gawn or Jamar suggests we at least have a decent list of players not ready for this game. Not sure if it's 3 very's worth.

[DeeSpencer 23,061]

Could not agree more. Players are often the worst culprits - he just reinforced sticking to our structure, we lost our structures, structure was key blah blah.

But much worse when commentators (especially ex footy players who just love to highlight their tactical nouse and that the fact they once were warriors - dermie being the proze example o this tiresome phenomenon ) say it because it is usually not clear what they mean by it . The job of the commentator is to MAKE THINGS CLEAR! not use made up footy babble words.

AFL football moves so fast (and I mean the speed of a game and the speed at which tactics change) that I'm hardly surprised that commentators can't keep up in games. At least if they provide simple stats in clearances, inside 50s, kick/handball ratio, disposal efficiency and tackles you can start to decipher what's happening yourself. But what really surprises me is in the pre/post game analysis as well as in the footy shows that so called AFL experts still can't succinctly provide much of benefit. David King kind of tries but I sense he fails a lot. The invention of fox footy's 3 keys to winning a game (I think disposals, efficiency and clearances or whatever it was) was at least trying something.

[gsmith12 491]

Strauss taken off on the cart this morning, any news of his injury ?

[rjay 23,870]

AFL football moves so fast (and I mean the speed of a game and the speed at which tactics change) that I'm hardly surprised that commentators can't keep up in games. At least if they provide simple stats in clearances, inside 50s, kick/handball ratio, disposal efficiency and tackles you can start to decipher what's happening yourself. But what really surprises me is in the pre/post game analysis as well as in the footy shows that so called AFL experts still can't succinctly provide much of benefit. David King kind of tries but I sense he fails a lot. The invention of fox footy's 3 keys to winning a game (I think disposals, efficiency and clearances or whatever it was) was at least trying something.

Alan Jeans' one key. Kick a bigger score than than the opposition. Novel idea that...

[Jaded No More 57,682]

Strauss taken off on the cart this morning, any news of his injury ?

Oh poor kid, he can't catch a break right now. Except the physical kind.

[Akum 2,660]

Best way to sum it up on here is....

I have ball in hand at left half-back. You are standing in centre circle. You first run (away) toward left half-forward (same side), then dart back for the hit up toward me.

I am going to ring up SEN and ask your question in relation to "structures"; the most over-referred to...least understood terminology in football.

Thanks, makes a lot of sense.

I really get the feeling that what we saw against Tiges was just the foundation of a structured approach. There is so much more to it.

[Pink Freud 325]

So Strauss & Pedo injured today.

It's starting.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

I wonder what the 2nd conditioning guy does? a lot of 'hmmm I agree' I suppose.

Yep, that's right. He's the 'hmmm I agree' guy.

[Demon_Tingles 211]

Pedo and Strauss out of the squad to play in Alice Springs.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Pedo and Strauss out of the squad to play in Alice Springs.

Strauss wasn't named in the squad to begin with.

[DemonOX 8,529]

Bit disappointed that they took JKH out for a rest and that JV ain't playing but hey I am sure they know what they are doing.

Just would have been nice to c them running around.

[jayceebee31 666]

We must be the unluckiest team with injuries....seems Jimmy cannot take a trick...probably the fittest he has been ever before now.