Taggert, Magner, Stark delisted; Clisby promoted

[Hannibal 5,814]

I'd like to see what the BP lovers of a couple of years ago have to say now.

Here's a snippet from your mate Baghdad about BP:

"Year one was Watts, Blease, Strauss, Bennell, Jetta, Bail, Jurrah, McKenzie and Healy. Healy is the only one that is gone and of the others there will be few if any misses. That's quite an extraordinary performance for a first year recruiter and he showed a lot of guts picking Watts over Nic Nat because he knew Watts would take years longer to mature and he would be judged harshly initially."

"Year two was Scully, Trengove, Gysberts, Tapscott, Gawn and Fitzpatrick and (Joel) Macdonald. Gysberts was the gutsy pick here and initial signs are very positive."

"I think BBBP has an exceptional eye for talent evidenced by McDonald, Davis, Howe, Bail, McKenzie, Evans and Nicholson. He was gutsy with Cook and Gysberts. We will miss his footy smarts, independent thinking and courage and if we are Premiers one day his fingers will be all over it. Good luck Bazz."

I'm not sure if he's changed his view, Rob.

Edited October 29, 2013 by Ben-Hur

[mog 58]

Anyone comparing to Taggart to Michie should note that Michie averaged 26 possessions a game for Peel Thunder, won their b&f and got 13 possessions in half a game at geelong in the AFL. Like comparing apples to turnips.

Taggart never even got 26 touches in a game, and actually in his 17 games this year only got over 14 touches 4 times and one of those was 15 touches.

[dazzledavey36 48,658]

Taggart never even got 26 touches in a game, and actually in his 17 games this year only got over 14 touches 4 times and one of those was 15 touches.

[rjay 23,876]

Here's a snippet from your mate Baghdad about BP:

"Year one was Watts, Blease, Strauss, Bennell, Jetta, Bail, Jurrah, McKenzie and Healy. Healy is the only one that is gone and of the others there will be few if any misses. That's quite an extraordinary performance for a first year recruiter and he showed a lot of guts picking Watts over Nic Nat because he knew Watts would take years longer to mature and he would be judged harshly initially."

"Year two was Scully, Trengove, Gysberts, Tapscott, Gawn and Fitzpatrick and (Joel) Macdonald. Gysberts was the gutsy pick here and initial signs are very positive."

"I think BBBP has an exceptional eye for talent evidenced by McDonald, Davis, Howe, Bail, McKenzie, Evans and Nicholson. He was gutsy with Cook and Gysberts. We will miss his footy smarts, independent thinking and courage and if we are Premiers one day his fingers will be all over it. Good luck Bazz."

I'm not sure if he's changed his view, Rob.

If only he had no guts and wasn't so gutsy...

[baysidedave 246]

i hope Magner gets picked up by someone else and gets another chance.

bad decision IMO, should have stuck with him.

[Machsy 2,856]

It's worth remembering that Taggert's selection was reportedly not BP's decision, but that was made by Neeld, after Taggert was the only prospect to send Neeld a letter when the email address was offered during draft interviews.

I do think Taggert had a good character, but his lack of real pace, a tank to play consistently in a VFL midfield, and his underwhelming performances to date, have all sealed his fate.

Maybe worth a rookie spot in such a weak draft.

Good luck to all 3.

[angrydee 842]

bad decision IMO, should have stuck with him.

Gutsy and gave his all, but is too slow, poorly skilled and a mediocre decision-maker. We don't need more list-cloggers. We've still got too many.

[Winners at last 4,695]

Gutsy and gave his all, but is too slow, poorly skilled and a mediocre decision-maker. We don't need more list-cloggers. We've still got too many.

No doubt a ripping bloke with great attitude. But I agree with you AD.

[DemonFrog 1,347]

Expeditious and necessary I suggest to make room for newbies. Shlt happens hey

See BB we can get you to make the hard decisions LOL

[DemonFrog 1,347]

Surely we could delist more then this.

I love AD term List-cloggers.

IMO the MFC is full of List-cloggers who need to be removed.

[Redleg 37,484]

Clearly if Roos is serious about improving the side the list had to be turned over.

The limiting factors appear to be our bottom of the heap attractiveness to players, a so called weak draft this year, players contracted beyond this year, a need to maintain some semblance of structure for next year and I would imagine Roos unfamiliarity with many of the club's players.

I actually would be interested to see who has made the call on some of the players like Taggert. Clearly Roos would never have seen him play and would know little about him. That means that while Roos has agreed with delisting it was probably not his call. I am imagining that Viney and Rawlings and to a smaller degree Mahoney have made several of the delisting assessments.

I could still see another delisting or retirement coming even of a contracted player.

Hopefully we can position ourselves with a decent player in the PSD as it appears that GWS has their pick lined up and that makes us the first live pick. That is a good opportunity to get a decent player who may be unhappy with what his current club offers.

[ThreeOneSix 953]

Magner was stiff not to get a gig this year.

The rest aren't much chop.

[jackaub 1,402]

he has to be

bloody miracle he is on an AFL list

No His contract finished 2013 he may still be a victim I wish!

[Satyriconhome 9,982]

Gee some posters on here must get dizzy from all the spinning from changing direction so rapidly.

Roos is appointed coach and you can hear the orgasmic groans all over Melbourne

"now we will see some changes"

Taggert is delisted and what?.....why has this happend?.....why not delist A, B, C....

So this footy dept is inept as well is it?

[beelzebub 22,225]

It all comes down in the end to Omelettes and Eggs

[Canberra Demon 159]

Whilst I'm surprised Taggert got the chop over Jetta and Nicholson, who IIRC are out of contract, I'm very happy to see Clisby get promoted. Hopefully he starts Round 1 and continues to go from strength to strength.

I am a big for of Clisby and hope he plays from round one too. I cant recall if he has served his suspension fully yet? does he have any games remaining or is he right to play from round 1?

[drdrake 3,035]

I'm a big fan of Nev Jetta, his body has let him down but to me it is between him, Clisby and Strauss for that back pocket position. Jetta's biggest issue was in his first 2-3 years he was played in the wrong position, he was never a small forward. I was hoping he could build his tank to get into the midfield that's where he would play his best footy but last year he should enough down back to keep him around for another year.

When you look at Magner and Taggart, they are so far down our midfield list now that they would just never get a game, we are adding 5 midfield players through trade Tyson, Vince, Michie, Cross and national draft pick 9 that would jump in front of them and considering they couldn't get a game last year they had to be moved on.

[dazzledavey36 48,658]

I am a big for of Clisby and hope he plays from round one too. I cant recall if he has served his suspension fully yet? does he have any games remaining or is he right to play from round 1?

Right to go round 1 mate.

[Bedraggled Dee 336]

Just a quick summary of recent draftee no longer with us. The drafting department should hang its head in shame!!!

Name - Pick number - AFL Games

® = Rookie

(PS) = Pre season

2006

Pettard 30 - 54

Weetra 62 - 2

Hayes ® 12 - 0

2007

Morton 4 - 23

Maric 21 - 21

Cheney 53 - 14

McNamara 66 - 4

Martin (PS) 3 - 57

Zomer ® 3 - 0

Valenti ® 49 - 15

2008

Bennel 35 - 57

Jurrah (PS) 1 - 36

Healey ® 12 - 0

Hughes ® 33 - 2

2009

Scully 1 - 31

Gysberts 11 - 19

Newton (R again) 6 - 7

Meesen ® 22 - 0

2010

Cook 12 - 0

Davis 50 - 2

Lawrence ® 48 - 0

Johnston ® 63 - 0

Campbell ® 75 - 0

Mcnammara ® 83 - 1

2011

Taggart 36 - 0

Tynan 52 - 2

Sellar 54 - 23

Sheehan ® 6 - 0

Couch ® 24 - 3

Magner ® 42 - 19

Williams ® 59 - 0

2012

Stark ® 3 - 0

[Machsy 2,856]

I'm a big fan of Nev Jetta, his body has let him down but to me it is between him, Clisby and Strauss for that back pocket position. Jetta's biggest issue was in his first 2-3 years he was played in the wrong position, he was never a small forward. I was hoping he could build his tank to get into the midfield that's where he would play his best footy but last year he should enough down back to keep him around for another year.

When you look at Magner and Taggart, they are so far down our midfield list now that they would just never get a game, we are adding 5 midfield players through trade Tyson, Vince, Michie, Cross and national draft pick 9 that would jump in front of them and considering they couldn't get a game last year they had to be moved on.

What are you talking about?

Jetta has never been played as a small forward.

It's only the ignorant who refer to him as one.

He's always been played as a midfielder or a defender, a high HFF at an absolute stretch.

[drdrake 3,035]

What are you talking about?

Jetta has never been played as a small forward.

It's only the ignorant who refer to him as one.

He's always been played as a midfielder or a defender, a high HFF at an absolute stretch.

His first 3 years Jetta only was played as a small forward in the AFL matches he played, he never had the tank to play high HFF or midfielder.

[Machsy 2,856]

Rubbish.

He went through the midfield.

[Canberra Demon 159]

Right to go round 1 mate.

Awesome DD thanks for that

[jnrmac 18,914]

Just a quick summary of recent draftee no longer with us. The drafting department should hang its head in shame!!!

Name - Pick number - AFL Games

® = Rookie

(PS) = Pre season

2006

Pettard 30 - 54

Weetra 62 - 2

Hayes ® 12 - 0

2007

Morton 4 - 23

I wish Morton only payed 23 games. Sadly he played 73 games. What a spud.

[dazzledavey36 48,658]

Rubbish.

He went through the midfield.

Pretty sure he started as a forward pocket especially when Aussie was battling injuries problems and Davey was playing HBF.