James Frawley .. need him to commit

[Demon_Tingles 211]

Just from the interview with James Frawley on the MFC website.

“As a leader for me, you’ve got to knock [things] on the head early, as soon as you see something, act on it straight away. That’s what I try and do and I’m a pretty passionate guy on the footy field. You’ve got to act on it straight away and giving clear and concise feedback is the best way to do it.

Well knock something on the head here James and re sign at the football club. Act on it straight away so we don't have any more distractions heading into next season. If not tell us now so we can get something for you . We really need to keep him and should do whatever it takes.

[DeeSpencer 23,061]

Yep. We got to make him the offer in terms of $$$ and years that he deserves and then he has to step up and take it and play like it.

Otherwise he becomes the Trav Cloke or BJ Goddard/Buddy Franklin of 2014 and is a distraction we dont need. Not to mention losing him for a compo pick only which potentially is a nice pick but doesn't replace a mature quality full back. Plenty of teams will be interested in him in 2014 and I'd see Gold Coast would lead the charge with a massive offer.

[Demon_Tingles 211]

Yep. We got to make him the offer in terms of $$$ and years that he deserves and then he has to step up and take it and play like it.

Otherwise he becomes the Trav Cloke or BJ Goddard/Buddy Franklin of 2014 and is a distraction we dont need. Not to mention losing him for a compo pick only which potentially is a nice pick but doesn't replace a mature quality full back. Plenty of teams will be interested in him in 2014 and I'd see Gold Coast would lead the charge with a massive offer.

Exactly right. Not only losing him will gut us and set us back a few years but we do not need another year of distractions. He needs to commit or tell the MFC now so we can get something done and truly attack this season with no outside distractions.

[Demon_Tingles 211]

I actually think Hawthorn will make the best offer. They would love him and they definitely have the money due to Franklin leaving.

[Demon_Tingles 211]

100% agree DT, lead by example and re-commit to this club. Do not wait for next season and and base your decision on next years results, waiting only leaves yourself open to offers from opposition clubs and will create indecision.

There should be no reason for him to wait a year. He knows it's going to be tough and one season won't change his mind. He needs to speak his mind now and prove he is a real leader and recommit to the cause like he is asking others to do

[Weekends at Bernie's 64]

I actually think Hawthorn will make the best offer. They would love him and they definitely have the money due to Franklin leaving.

100% agree DT, lead by example and re-commit to this club. Do not wait for next season and base your decision on next years results, waiting only leaves yourself open to offers from opposition clubs and will create indecision.

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[Weekends at Bernie's 64]

There should be no reason for him to wait a year. He knows it's going to be tough and one season won't change his mind. He needs to speak his mind now and prove he is a real leader and recommit to the cause like he is asking others to do

Im agreeing with you DT, however i do believe next years results with have some sort of impact on his decision. Maybe not so much results but definetely the way the team performs. Otherwise i see no reason why he wouldnt just re-sign now. whats he waiting for??

[ILLDieADemon 804]

We need to start winning game for him to commit otherwise his walking and I won't blame him either.

[Demon_Tingles 211]

Im agreeing with you DT, however i do believe next years results with have some sort of impact on his decision. Maybe not so much results but definetely the way the team performs. Otherwise i see no reason why he wouldnt just re-sign now. whats he waiting for??

Yeah that's what I'm worried about. Why is he delaying. I don't think they are holding out money on him, I'm fairly certain that they know how valuable he is to us and length of a contract wouldn't be a problem for him so the delay worries me. So he should just come out one way or another and do what he is telling the rest of the club to do

[Machsy 2,856]

The sort of carry on seen in this thread is exactly what drives players out of clubs.

It's not critical right now.

If he comes out and says "I'll wait til the end of the season," then you have some cause for concern.

Until then, stop jumping at shadows.

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,106]

He needs to tell the club of his intentions before next Friday, if he wants out, then we can trade him before he becomes a free agent in 12 months.

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

I'd love to see him commit for 3 years. I hope he does it over the summer period.

If we get to round one and he hasn't signed, then I fear we can kiss him goodbye.

[dee-luded 2,958]

Just from the interview with James Frawley on the MFC website.

“As a leader for me, you’ve got to knock [things] on the head early, as soon as you see something, act on it straight away. That’s what I try and do and I’m a pretty passionate guy on the footy field. You’ve got to act on it straight away and giving clear and concise feedback is the best way to do it.

Well knock something on the head here James and re sign at the football club. Act on it straight away so we don't have any more distractions heading into next season. If not tell us now so we can get something for you . We really need to keep him and should do whatever it takes.

if unsure Chip, then sign a 1Yr extension. then we can both deal evenhanded next year.

[LeBron James 41]

If we're still shithouse next year then I won't blame him for leaving.

[QueensBirthday 186]

It pains me to say. I think that he's already making plans for jumping ship next year. Would love to be wrong, but...

He's done two articles saying how much Melbourne means to him despite the quagmire of [censored] he's had to swim through. Meanwhile, he's not signing a contact extension.

Start of next year it will be, "I'm dealying any contract negotiations until the end of the year." Maybe his manager will be smart enough to rephrase this, so as to not telegraph the intention too much.

If we have an opportunity to get value for him in the last week of trading, do it. Love him to pieces, but we need something to show for losing a top tier defender. Remember, AFL wants no compo for FA next year.

C'mon posters, bring on your hate, I can take it.

[Earl Hood 5,787]

He needs to tell the club of his intentions before next Friday, if he wants out, then we can trade him before he becomes a free agent in 12 months.

Roos talked about players being traded before they reach FA status. I would hope we are gauging his current value, if it is a first rounder to someone then we should be putting some options to him to sign now or we look at a trade before next year when we might get a second round compensation pick maybe. He can counter this of course if he wants to.

Let us just say I am a pessimist in this whole FA bargaining. We will be working uphill into a headwind just to stay competitive in this environment. Our only hope to keep Chip is that the side gets totally fit, develops some kids and we start winning games big time a la Port A. If he sees there is hope he may stay.

One alternative is to trade Chip now and look at Hogan to cut his teeth as a CHB a la David Neitz for a few years to fill a need as we hopefully have Clarke and Dawes up forward and we know Hogan played both ends as a junior.

[Machsy 2,856]

If we're still shithouse next year then I won't blame him for leaving.

You did leave Cleveland, though.

[Lordweaver 235]

Get him to sign a 2/3 year contract, if he doesn't then we look at a trade, pure and simple, I reckon we could cover him, throw Hogan at CHB

[dee-luded 2,958]

Roos talked about players being traded before they reach FA status. I would hope we are gauging his current value, if it is a first rounder to someone then we should be putting some options to him to sign now or we look at a trade before next year when we might get a second round compensation pick maybe. He can counter this of course if he wants to.

Let us just say I am a pessimist in this whole FA bargaining. We will be working uphill into a headwind just to stay competitive in this environment. Our only hope to keep Chip is that the side gets totally fit, develops some kids and we start winning games big time a la Port A. If he sees there is hope he may stay.

One alternative is to trade Chip now and look at Hogan to cut his teeth as a CHB a la David Neitz for a few years to fill a need as we hopefully have Clarke and Dawes up forward and we know Hogan played both ends as a junior.

If Chip is thinking of an out, then tell us now Chip. & we can arrange things.

I'm sure GWS would make him a squillion-aire offer with the money saved from Buddies warchest.

Chip & our 2ndRnd Pick for Dylan Shiels, Ploughman & Pick 9

[Machsy 2,856]

Roos talked about players being traded before they reach FA status. I would hope we are gauging his current value, if it is a first rounder to someone then we should be putting some options to him to sign now or we look at a trade before next year when we might get a second round compensation pick maybe. He can counter this of course if he wants to.

Let us just say I am a pessimist in this whole FA bargaining. We will be working uphill into a headwind just to stay competitive in this environment. Our only hope to keep Chip is that the side gets totally fit, develops some kids and we start winning games big time a la Port A. If he sees there is hope he may stay.

One alternative is to trade Chip now and look at Hogan to cut his teeth as a CHB a la David Neitz for a few years to fill a need as we hopefully have Clarke and Dawes up forward and we know Hogan played both ends as a junior.

I think this was wholly in reference to Vince, not Frawley.

Do we even know that the club has offered Frawley an extension yet, and if so what his answer was..?

[rpfc 27,391]

He doesn't have to sign now, there is no need for ultimatums now.

Should we start acting like a decent club or should we just continue to act like the toddler of a club we have been these last 7 years?

Play good footy, get players to want to stay, and don't fret the end is near when they do leave. We can meet his wage and trade him or get Pick 5 for him as comp.

[Earl Hood 5,787]

He doesn't have to sign now, there is no need for ultimatums now.

Should we start acting like a decent club or should we just continue to act like the toddler of a club we have been these last 7 years?

Play good footy, get players to want to stay, and don't fret the end is near when they do leave. We can meet his wage and trade him or get Pick 5 for him as comp.

Pick 5 as compensation? Rpfc you know how it works but this seems optimistic. Of course if true then yes we stay the course and see what happens in 2014.

[dee-luded 2,958]

I think this was wholly in reference to Vince, not Frawley.

Do we even know that the club has offered Frawley an extension yet, and if so what his answer was..?

I think all we know is Chip hasn't been mentioned as signing a contract extension.

& I think it was fairly public, that Chip wanted out to the Saints earlier in the year. thats what has started all this talk.

He doesn't have to sign now, there is no need for ultimatums now.

Should we start acting like a decent club or should we just continue to act like the toddler of a club we have been these last 7 years?

Play good footy, get players to want to stay, and don't fret the end is near when they do leave. We can meet his wage and trade him or get Pick 5 for him as comp.

& if we finish 9th next year, it could be around P11ish, or later?

[Machsy 2,856]

Are you mentally deficient?

[Yossarian 1,808]

& if we finish 9th next year, it could be around P11ish, or later?

That's the point, dude. If we finish 9th, not only will I be stoked, he'll be far more inclined to want to stay because he'll see us as heading in the right direction. Not to mention we'd be far more attractive to decent players at other teams.

And if we finish in much the same way we do now and he decides to go then yeh, it'll be pick 5ish, so we move on.