Matt Scharenberg

[beelzebub 23,200]

I don't know why so many attack Dunn. He has played in 3 out of every 4 games since we got him. He is in our best 22 ATM. He can play forward, back or in the middle as a tagger. He has a booming kick and can kick goals. Yes he isn't a star, but he is a very serviceable player and better than so many others we have drafted. How many stars have we drafted lately?

I could delist plenty before Dunn.

a word comes to mind....that's it....TURNOVER.

He does as much harm as good. nett effect on a ground....something hovering around....0

[Dan Fantastik 50]

a word comes to mind....that's it....TURNOVER.

He does as much harm as good. nett effect on a ground....something hovering around....0

Untrue.

Dunny nearly always beats or at least breaks even with his opponent and he is part of a back line that was bombarded and under extreme pressure last year. He lead our rebound 50's, Was top 10 for effective disposils and contested marks.

He did however average 2 clangers per game but that wasn't high considering the rest of the team averaged about the same if not more.

He finished 6th in our BnF and people think is isn't in our best 22?

[Redleg 40,219]

a word comes to mind....that's it....TURNOVER.

He does as much harm as good. nett effect on a ground....something hovering around....0

Disagree. Agree with Dan Fantastik's post.

If you actually watch his disposals most go to us. I think Chip turns it over more.

[beelzebub 23,200]

meanwhile back to what's his name

Star draft prospect Matthew Scharenberg could slide down the order as it emerges he is battling feet injuries

is this some cagey game of smoke and mirrors..?? Are we trying to get 'creative" lol

[beelzebub 23,200]

Untrue.

Dunny nearly always beats or at least breaks even with his opponent and he is part of a back line that was bombarded and under extreme pressure last year. He lead our rebound 50's, Was top 10 for effective disposils and contested marks.

He did however average 2 clangers per game but that wasn't high considering the rest of the team averaged about the same if not more.

He finished 6th in our BnF and people think is isn't in our best 22?

In all honesty finishing 6th in OUR b and F isnt much chop.. With all due respect given Chunk.

I use my stereoscopic calibration technique....its called watching. I stand by my view. You are of course entitled to yours.

Personally what many statisticians label. effective is laughable. He does some good I agree..its the bad I simply suggest negates it. He ought not be in any best 22 for a team that has any hopes of climbing from our lowly cellar., hes just not that good

[rjay 24,615]

meanwhile back to what's his name

Star draft prospect Matthew Scharenberg could slide down the order as it emerges he is battling feet injuries

is this some cagey game of smoke and mirrors..?? Are we trying to get 'creative" lol

We're the right place if it's feet injuries he has, we're the king of feet injuries.

[angrydee 842]

In all honesty finishing 6th in OUR b and F isnt much chop.. With all due respect given Chunk.

I use my stereoscopic calibration technique....its called watching. I stand by my view. You are of course entitled to yours.

Personally what many statisticians label. effective is laughable. He does some good I agree..its the bad I simply suggest negates it. He ought not be in any best 22 for a team that has any hopes of climbing from our lowly cellar., hes just not that good

I use the same technique, and I totally disagree. I think Dunn has been more than adequate. And I believe he will fourish under the new regime.

But,as with all things, time will tell.

[Standing Room Only 27]

We're the right place if it's feet injuries he has, we're the king of feet injuries.

Not a draft watcher so no idea of his talent other than being top 5 in most phantoms.

My questions are obviously how serious are the injuries, how long is he likely to be on the sidelines & is his talent that good that we can afford to wait?

If we're worried about any of those we can't afford to pick him.

[Whispering_Jack 29,240]

meanwhile ... is this some cagey game of smoke and mirrors..?? Are we trying to get 'creative" lol

No. This sounds somewhat serious.

I wish the kid well and hope he survives past draft night.

[rpfc 28,052]

Ok, we have a couple resident experts when it comes to foot issues...

How bad is stress fractures on the foot?

Garland had a hot spot didn't he?

Steer clear if he gets that far?

[beelzebub 23,200]

I smell a rat...dunno why...just do

[Redleg 40,219]

I smell a rat...dunno why...just do

The question is whose rat is it?

Shades of Darling, Buddy, Garlett etc.

If this guy really has serious foot problems we could lose the mid we want as another club takes the mid we want. It could of course be us pushing the story hoping to get him or another club like the Pies taking another player first and hoping he slips to their second pick.

I am glad I am not a recruiter as it is really a very difficult job. That said I stand by my well known views that BP killed us.

From all reports most seem to agree that Scharenberg is injuries aside one of the best in the draft.

Personally I haven't got a clue as I haven't seen anything other than highlights videos of several players and we all know how flawed they are. As I have said previously, you could make a highlights video of my football career and make me look good and I was very ordinary. There is so much more to being an AFL footballer than a short video of their best moments.

Good luck Dees I hope the boys we take all have good careers with us.

[Roos can't lose 43]

There are never certainties in medicine . You can get input from the various orthopods who specialize in feet and get a an assessment on prognosis

There will be a probability of recovery and a probability of recurrence

Expressed either as likely / unlikely or on percent age terms

It will then be a judgement call from football dept based on the medical guesstimate and his ability

There is never a never or never always in medicine

[jnrmac 19,905]

Feet I reckon are differenet. Judd has shoulder problems but it didn't hurt is running. Buddy had social problems and a club like Hawthorn was able to keep him on a pretty tight leash, Fev was a basket case who got away with blue murder at Carlton. There are numerous examples

But feet are problematic if they aren't right.

Good on the club for getting them scanned. Sounds like they are working assiduously on all possibilities for pick 9.....

[Biffen 12,841]

Save Our Soles.

Mitch Clark in particular.

Not the German too.

[mjt 640]

Save Our Soles.

Mitch Clark in particular.

Not the German too.

Dummkoph.

[spirit of norm smith 15,249]

if available, Scharenberg is a big decision to make ...

[rjay 24,615]

if available, Scharenberg is a big decision to make ...

If available and the medicals check out it's an easy decision. We take him.

[dee-tox 4,835]

Given that footballers with Dutch surnames generally don't end up stars then I say no! Klomp, van Berlo, Schaik, Kreuzer, Duursmaa, de Boer, Van den Berg, et al

[Jarka 767]

I smell a rat...dunno why...just do

The three little kittens, they lost their mittens....

[jazza 1,323]

Given that footballers with Dutch surnames generally don't end up stars then I say no! Klomp, van Berlo, Schaik, Kreuzer, Duursmaa, de Boer, Van den Berg, et al

Van der Haar

Nick Vlastuin

Matt deboer

Nathan van Berlo

Nick Holland

[Blistering 538]

These guys aren't concerned about any injury to Matt Scharenberg.

If available at 9, he's definitely the best player.

[Thrice 216]

Given that footballers with Dutch surnames generally don't end up stars then I say no! Klomp, van Berlo, Schaik, Kreuzer, Duursmaa, de Boer, Van den Berg, et al

Kreuzer and Scharenberg are both German surnames.

So are Neitz, Schwarz, Riewoldt, Voss etc.

Edited November 19, 2013 by Thrice

[Redleg 40,219]

These guys aren't concerned about any injury to Matt Scharenberg.

If available at 9, he's definitely the best player.

Getting the feeling he will be in black and white in 2014.