Jump to content

Discussion on recent allegations about the use of illicit drugs in football is forbidden
  • IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING

    Posting unsubstantiated rumours on this website is strictly forbidden.

    Demonland has made the difficult decision to not permit this platform to be used to discuss & debate the off-field issues relating to the Melbourne Football Club including matters currently being litigated between the Club & former Board members, board elections, the issue of illicit drugs in footy, the culture at the club & the personal issues & allegations against some of our players & officials ...

    We do not take these issues & this decision lightly & of course we believe that these serious matters affecting the club we love & are so passionate about are worthy of discussion & debate & I wish we could provide a place where these matters can be discussed in a civil & respectful manner.

    However these discussions unfortunately invariably devolve into areas that may be defamatory, libelous, spread unsubstantiated rumours & can effect the mental health of those involved. Even discussion & debate of known facts or media reports can lead to finger pointing, blame & personal attacks.

    The repercussion is that these discussions can open this website, it’s owners & it’s users to legal action & may result in this website being forced to shutdown.

    Our moderating team are all volunteers & cannot moderate the forum 24/7 & as a consequence problematic content that contravenes our rules & standards may go unnoticed for some time before it can be removed.

    We reserve the right to delete posts that offend against our above policy & indeed, to ban posters who are repeat offenders or who breach our code of conduct.

    WE HAVE BUILT A FANTASTIC ONLINE COMMUNITY AT DEMONLAND OVER THE PAST 23 YEARS & WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE CLUB WE LOVE & ARE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.

    Thank you for your continued support & understanding. Go Dees.


Collingwood chasing Sylvia


Deemachine

Recommended Posts

I'd be surprised if 16 other clubs were not inquiring as well

AFL must be the last code in the world which hasn't embraced player movement and restriction of trade. AFL should be proud of it's loyalty from players but also needs to grow up in this sense.

Don't get me wrong Sylvia will be a massive loss if he leaves - but the MFC must be pro active and not sit on it's hands..... We should be preparing for him to leave behind the scenes while convincing him to stay in public. Your kidding yourself if you don't think this is normal AFL process

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Demonland myth? It's not a myth, he has constantly under performed and shown laziness, a lack of leadership and selfishness for as long as he has been here.

So far this year and last year he has been better and I'd have been all for getting rid of him a couple of years ago but I fear that if we lost him this year he would leave a large hole in the list. Not in terms of any kind of leadership or as a role model but he is a big body and to Neeld, 145 games experience...

I was referring to the myth that he only plays well against poor opposition. As I said, that is rubbish. I know full well that Colin has at various times in his career let himself down with his application.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just a question for Demonlanders

Are people really surprised that other clubs inquire in players??

IMO the MFC needs to get in front of the game and be pro active signing players now or planning for their departures

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

If Col can stop destroying his teammates' good work by bombing the ball over the heads of our forwards or getting caught in tackles, he might become a useful player. Until then, he's one of the many reasons we can't seem to collect long chains of possessions; he turns the ball over far too often for someone with his skill level.

He's a pretty good player, but unfortunately he isn't as good as he thinks he is - and that is his downfall. We need to keep him if possible, but we have to learn how to use him better.

And kick the pill to who?? The endless amount of team mates who spread for him?

I'd rather him kick down the line 55m for a 5% chance of a mark then kick it sideways/backwards for a 5% chance to retain it.

No one has ever brought up his kicking ability before and he is easily still one of the best kicks in the team. It's just this year the options when he has the pill have dried up.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Col will do what is in his best interests. He's always done as he pleases and never actually pushed himself through his career, if he had he'd have won a few blueys and probably be captain of the club. If he goes he will get a lesser contract in terms of years and cash IMO.

I want him to stay but I don't hold much hope of it. Better go get a sleeve tatt Col......

Link to comment
Share on other sites

And kick the pill to who?? The endless amount of team mates who spread for him?

I'd rather him kick down the line 55m for a 5% chance of a mark then kick it sideways/backwards for a 5% chance to retain it.

No one has ever brought up his kicking ability before and he is easily still one of the best kicks in the team. It's just this year the options when he has the pill have dried up.

If you kick the ball low and direct into the forward line instead of high and indiscriminately, you draw your forward to the ball. Two weeks ago in Dawes' first game, I reckon Col kicked the ball over his head about 5 times when a more precise kick would have changed those turnovers into shots at goal (or at the very least given our midfielders time to run into the forward line and lock the ball in there.

What should happen is we run the ball out of defence, give the ball to our best ball users and hit up a leading forward (Dawes, Howe, Tapscott, whoever is in there), who then wheels around and kicks it either to a marking contest where we have the numbers or to another leading foward.

Sylvia just gets the ball and either tries to break the lines unsuccessfully or kicks a high up-and-under rainmaker to no-one. The way he plays will usually see him kick a ripper goal once a week, but he could be far more valuable by exercising a little restraint.

I predicted before our Richmond game that our delivery into the forward-line would be much better with Sylvia out. Lo-and-behold it was; at one stage we were kicking a goal every time we went in there. Surely we have to ask ourselves why that was.

I want us to keep him, but we simply need to use him better. That's all.

Edited by Chook
Link to comment
Share on other sites


According to SEN. In my opinion: great news, see you later Col, you could have been great if only you had self discipline, passion and the mindset of a leader.

Yeah great news, we lose a talented senior player for nothing.... Just what we need!

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yeah great news, we lose a talented senior player for nothing.... Just what we need!

Don't worry stuie we will get a good young draft pick to replace him (cause we will finish last) and we will develop him into a gun mid.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If you kick the ball low and direct into the forward line instead of high and indiscriminately, you draw your forward to the ball. Two weeks ago in Dawes' first game, I reckon Col kicked the ball over his head about 5 times when a more precise kick would have changed those turnovers into shots at goal (or at the very least given our midfielders time to run into the forward line and lock the ball in there.

What should happen is we run the ball out of defence, give the ball to our best ball users and hit up a leading forward (Dawes, Howe, Tapscott, whoever is in there), who then wheels around and kicks it either to a marking contest where we have the numbers or to another leading foward.

Sylvia just gets the ball and either tries to break the lines unsuccessfully or kicks a high up-and-under rainmaker to no-one. The way he plays will usually see him kick a ripper goal once a week, but he could be far more valuable by exercising a little restraint.

I predicted before our Richmond game that our delivery into the forward-line would be much better with Sylvia out. Lo-and-behold it was; at one stage we were kicking a goal every time we went in there. Surely we have to ask ourselves why that was.

I want us to keep him, but we simply need to use him better. That's all.

I agree with where you say what 'should' happen out of the back line, that's where we need Watts & Strauss to really come along but I have my worries there.

Against Gold Coast I sat on the forward flank at the Punt Road end and I can remember him kicking the ball twice over Dawes head (noting he was battling two Suns) to big Maximus who also was continually out numbered. I thought Dawes was used as more of the decoy in his first outing then a CHF. Not sure if this was Col's random thinking or more of a team strategy. By this stage Howe was behind the pill and Tappy was just lumbering around.

I do remember once however he didn't lower the eyes and kicked it 50m to no one but I still think that's just panic footy with little other option.

The delivery was better against the Tiges as I am not sure they really turned up to play and we gave it everything... for once. Also the fact Flash got a few touches makes a massive difference.

But back on topic, although our Colin is a curious case, I really think we can't afford to lose him

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Imagine Col Sylvia tearing it apart on a HFF for Pies? A gun .. But also for all his perceived weaknesses a loyalist grateful to Dees

Well I can't blame him if he does leave hearing all the abuse from some supporters. We can't win a game and haven't for 5 years and the bloke he's still supposedly loyal to us. Yet in return, we as a supporter base want him out because he hasn't performed regularly enough against good teams. HELLO, WE'VE BEATEN 1 GOOD TEAM IN 3 YEARS! NO-ONE'S PERFORMED!!!

All these posters harp on about how our culture problem is kicking out players before they're due.. Junior, Greeny etc. These guys were so cooked in their career they couldn't play anymore.. and we have a late 20's player who has so much talent and is finally beginning to sort himself out and play good footy.. He wants to stay at Melbourne and we want him out..

Guck me.

  • Like 7
Link to comment
Share on other sites


Absolutely sick and tired of hearing this about Melbourne players. By the way, who was the last Demon to dominate in a good team?

Mclean is making a fairly good job of it at Carlton.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

"Absolutely sick and tired of hearing this about Melbourne players. By the way, who was the last Demon to dominate in a good team?"

Chapman

Jarman

Wilson

Byrne

Elshaug

Parke

Brewer

+

Scott Thompson

Darren Jolly ( premierships at two different teams )

Brock Mclean

Jared Rivers only a few games so far but was listed in their best ever game he played

Is that enough for you Soidee?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I must completely over rate some players after reading some of the comments in these threads for those people who think Daisy is soft and the Col is not needed.

I wonder what he really has to do to earn the respect of some people here, it sounds like anything under 30 touches and 5 goals is not good enough.

Let's all agree that he is never going to be that star player, he will never win a brownlow and he will probably never win a coaches award for being the king of 1 percenters like our Jordie continually does. Also, he is not a leaders boot lace but that's not his fault. Some people are born with it, others aren't. Why should be try turn him into one?? Memories of Brad Green flood back.

He is a genuine HFF who has stints on the ball, ala Chappy or Stevey J and no I am not putting him anywhere near the standards of those two but his position should be similar 75% in the forward line with a chop out on the ball. Maybe if the ball was forward a bit more we would see some more Col action.

Now from the half way mark last year (and after coming back from a big injury pre season) he averaged 22 touches and a goal a game which I don't think is to bad in a team that was complete filth.

This year, removing the Essendon disgrace and noting our team is even worse than last year he is still averaging 20 touches and a goal. This is his limit and I don't know why so many would be happy to see a player getting these numbers leave.

Most will say that he is continually kicking long to no one which watching, yes I agree, but also from being at the games he has stuff all options to kick to, we all agree there is no spread and without Clarke or Dawes I'd probably rather kick it to an opposition player than Sellar as well.

We continually cry out for decent grade mids and the one player we have with some talent people are happy to see the back of.

Give this man a medal. Thank you sir. Unfortunately there are many fools round these parts who don't care for logic... just misdirected emotion...

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

we need Sylvia to stay.he wins plenty of the ball and he is a booming kick, and when we have Clark, Dawes and Hogan in the side, Col will be worth his weight in gold

That is correct but as an unrestricted player he has to want to stay.

If he chooses to go there is nothing the MFC can do about it.

end of story

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    DEPTH CHARGE by Whispering Jack

    The jubilation on the coach’s face as he danced a celebratory jig by the playing bench after the final siren sounded to record his team’s four-point victory over the Demons when the teams last met, said it all.    On that rainy Friday night at the Adelaide Oval, Ken Hinkley’s young midfield secured much more than four points on offer. The victory over one of the big dogs of the competition after a succession of wins over some of its lesser lights gave his team respect and validation fo

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Monday 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training. DEMON DYNASTY'S TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Kade Chandler's left knee heavily strapped. BBB, Spargs & Jake Lever also in rehab group. Jake Bowey solo running separate kicking/sprint/agility drills. Super fine morning / early arvo at Gosch's for the boys to blow out some cobwebs. Choco initially had the light duties / rehab group

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    HIBERNATING by KC from Casey

    When they locked up the rooms for summer at the end of last year’s football season, the rooms gathered cobwebs, the atmosphere became dense and the place developed a sleepy feel. They opened up the rooms to let Casey out to play on Sunday but the team was still hibernating and they missed the bulk of the opening quarter. By the time they worked out it was game on, their opponents from Box Hill had accumulated five goals and, if the game wasn’t over, it might as well have been. For a se

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    A FORK IN THE HAWK by George on the Outer

    For too long in the past, Demon fans became habitually sick and tired of watching the Hawks hand out thrashings to their side. But Melbourne’s empahtic 55-point win at the MCG on Saturday has truly put a fork in the Hawk and turned that history well and truly on its head. The Demons have now won nine of their last ten encounters with the other result, a draw.     And like a fork, it was the multi-pronged options that Melbourne had all across the ground.  It certainly helped that Hawthorn

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports 8

    PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

    The Demons head on the road for the next 2 weeks as they travel to Adelaide to play Port on Saturday and then have a 5 Day break before facing the Crows in the Gather Round. With injuries to May and Lever who comes in and who goes out?

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 278

    PODCAST: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 25th March @ 8:30pm. Join George, Binman & I as we analyse the Demons victory at the MCG against the Hawks in the Round 02. You questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human. Listen & Chat

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 46

    VOTES: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    Last week Steven May took the lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Jack Viney. Clayton Oliver & Max Gawn round out the Top 4. Your votes for the win/loss against/to the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 50

    POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons cruised to an easy 55 point win over the Hawks at the MCG but but paid a heavy toll on the injury front with Steven May & Jake Lever possibly sidelined for a number of weeks.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 363

    GAMEDAY: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    It's Game Day and after mixed results in the first two weeks of the season the Demons have the opportunity to capitalise on their good form last week when they take on the Hawks at the MCG today.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 437
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast Stream 


    Open Stream in
    New Window
        TuneIn    Opens in New Tab
  • Support Demonland  



  • 2021 Premiership  

  • Social Media 

  • Non MFC Games  

    NON-MFC: Round 03

    Discussion of all the other games that don't involve the Demons in Round 03 ... READ MORE

    Demonland | Round 03

  • Match Preview      

    DEPTH CHARGE by Whispering Jack

    The jubilation on the coach’s face as he danced a celebratory jig by the playing bench after the final siren sounded to record his team’s four-point victory over the Demons when the teams last met, said it all ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 27

  • Latest Podcast      

    PODCAST: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The boys dissected the clinical thrashing of Hawks praising the immense performance of Christian Petracca whilst lamenting the injury toll to our defensive unit ... LISTEN

    Demonland | March 26

  • Training  

    Monday, 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • Casey Report      

    HIBERNATING by KC from Casey

    When they locked up the rooms for summer at the end of last year’s football season, the rooms gathered cobwebs, the atmosphere became dense and the place developed a sleepy feel. They opened up the rooms to let Casey out to play on Sunday but the team was still hibernating and they missed the bulk of the opening quarter ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • PreGame      

    PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

    The Demons head out on the road for the next 2 weeks as they travel to Adelaide to play Port on Saturday and then have a 5 Day break before facing the Crows in Gather Round. With injuries to May and Lever who comes in and who goes out? ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 28

  • Match Report      

    A FORK IN THE HAWK by George on the Outer

    For too long in the past, Demon fans became habitually sick and tired of watching the Hawks hand out thrashings to their side. But Melbourne’s empahtic 55-point win at the MCG on Saturday has truly put a fork in the Hawk and turned that history well and truly on its head ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Post Game      

    POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons cruised to an easy 55 point win over the Hawks at the MCG but but paid a heavy toll on the injury front with Steven May & Jake Lever possibly sidelined for a number of weeks ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Votes      

    VOTES: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    Last week Steven May took the lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Jack Viney. Clayton Oliver & Max Gawn round out the Top 4. Your votes for the win/loss against/to the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Game Day      

    GAMEDAY: Round 02 vs Hawthorn

    It's Game Day and after mixed results in the first two weeks of the season the Demons have the opportunity to capitalise on their good form last week when they take on the Hawks at the MCG today ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Training  

    Friday, 22nd March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin and I attended the Captain's Run at Gosch's Paddock on this lovely sunny morning to bring you the following observations from the training session ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 22

  • Training  

    Tuesday, 19th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin & Walking Civil War attended Tuesday morning's training session at Gosch's Paddock to bring you the following observations ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 19

  • Training  

    Saturday, 16th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin and Dee Zephyr wandered down to Gosch's Paddock on Saturday morning to bring you their observations from the Captain's Run in the lead up to Sunday's Round One match against the Bulldogs ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 16

  • Farewell  

    Angus Brayshaw Retires

    After 167 games including the drought breaking Premiership Angus Brayshaw has made the heart breaking decision to medically retire from football as a result of a series of serious head knocks over his nearly decade of footy. We wish Gus all the best and he'll always be a hero at Demonland ... READ MORE

    Demonland | February 22

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Koltyn Tholstrup Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club’s newest recruit Koltyn Tholstrup to have a chat about his journey from the farm to the Demons, his first few weeks of preseason training, which Dees have impressed him on the track and his aspirations of playing Round 1 ... LISTEN

    Demonland | December 14

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Jason Taylor Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club's National Recruitment Manager Jason Taylor to have a chat about our Trade and Draft period, our newest recruits, our recent recruits who have yet to debut as well as those father son prospects on the horizon ... LISTEN

    Demonland | November 27

  • Next Match 

    .

    Round 03

       vs   

    Saturday 30th March 2024
    @ 07:30pm (AO)

  • MFC Forum  

  • Match Previews & Reports  

  • Training Forum  

  • AFLW Forum  

  • 2024 Player Sponsorship

  • Topics

  • Injury List  


      PLAYER INJURY LENGTH
    Jake Lever Knee Test
    Clayton Oliver Hand Test
    Oliver Sestan Concussion Test
    Steven May Ribs 1 Week
    Lachie Hunter Calf 1 Week
    Daniel Turner Hip 2-3 Weeks
    Charlie Spargo Achilles 2-4 Weeks
    Shane McAdam Hamstring 3-5 Weeks
    Jake Bowey Shoulder 7 Weeks
    Jake Melksham ACL 12-14 Weeks
    Joel Smith Suspension TBA

  • Player of the Year  


        PLAYER VOTES
    1 Christian Petracca 27
    2 Steven May 25
    3 Max Gawn 21
    4 Jack Viney 20
    5 Bayley Fritsch 19
    6 Clayton Oliver 18
    7 Christian Salem 12
    8 Blake Howes 11
    9 Jack Billings 10
    9 Alex Neal-Bullen 10

        FULL TABLE
  • Demonland Interviews 



  • Upcoming Events 

×
×
  • Create New...