At what point does this become unacceptable?

[Striker475 696]

People are saying that 'we shouldn't be known for sacking coaches' - but average losing margins of 100pts are completely unacceptable to me as a football supporter.

Yet others maintain 'give it time'.

Surely not.

[stuie 7,374]

I'll tell you exactly the moment when it becomes unacceptable. When the siren goes next week and we've lost to GWS.

[Chook 15,013]

It's already unacceptable, but we need to realize that scapegoats don't work. This is a team game, and everyone in the team is one nth responsible for the deplorable state we're in.

[Jaded No More 68,909]

Ummm welcome to three weeks ago?

[mjt 640]

2008

[demondays 19]

mark kneeled?

[stuie 7,374]

It's already unacceptable, but we need to realize that scapegoats don't work. This is a team game, and everyone in the team is one nth responsible for the deplorable state we're in.

Don't see how a coach, who is responsible for the players performance, is a "scapegoat".

[Chook 15,013]

Don't see how a coach, who is responsible for the players performance, is a "scapegoat".

Anyone you get rid of without giving them time to do what they're supposed to do is a scapegoat. If we're in this position in 12 months time, then sack Neeld and go after someone else. But to expect miracles after just one season is asking for too much.

[stuie 7,374]

Anyone you get rid of without giving them time to do what they're supposed to do is a scapegoat. If we're in this position in 12 months time, then sack Neeld and go after someone else. But to expect miracles after just one season is asking for too much.

If this keeps going, we won't even be in the AFL in 12 months.

We don't expect miracles, but NO ONE would have expected we would be WORSE after Neeld has already been in charge of the "hardest team to play against" for 18 months.

[Deemotivated 550]

It's unacceptable. It has been for 2.5 years.

[Forest Demon 4,681]

I can fully understand why people have Neeld in the gun, but I really hope they stick with him.

Another sacking and change of direction means a new coach, another clean out and the whole cycle starts again.

As I said I can understand the 'Sack Neeld' argument, so I am not interested in arguing with those in that camp, just my humble opinion and gut feel I guess.

Edited April 13, 2013 by Forest Demon

[dees64 104]

Everyone really think that members/supporters/sponsors can put up with this garbage for another 19 rounds?

Long term damage to the young players!

Exodus of senior players...whats left!

Viney & Toumpas are thinking WTF!

[What 18,810]

it became unacceptable about half way through the Eseendon game

Neeld is a worse coach than Bailey, as unbelievable as that seems

[DeeZee 7,385]

You have to give it time , because we are simply not good enough.

Nothing to do with the coach, we just need time to develop some stars, especially in the midfield.

[Chook 15,013]

If this keeps going, we won't even be in the AFL in 12 months.

We don't expect miracles, but NO ONE would have expected we would be WORSE after Neeld has already been in charge of the "hardest team to play against" for 18 months.

Expecting a shocking (and extremely young) list to do anything but get worse before it gets better is expecting miracles. And so would hiring a new coach and expecting them to turn the ship around. How long would you give our new coach? Another 18 months?

Edited April 13, 2013 by Chook

[dees64 104]

For the good of MFC Neeld needs to resign & at least let someone else salvage some pride for the club & players!

[stuie 7,374]

Expecting a shocking (and extremely young) list to do anything but get worse before it gets better is expecting miracles. And so would hiring a new coach and expecting them to turn the ship around. How long would you give our new coach? Another 18 months?

That is extremely dumb.

Why else would we bring in a new coach and ring in a massive amount of changes if it wasn't to make us better?!

FMD.

[jnrmac 20,060]

It became unacceptable quite a while ago.

[dees64 104]

You have to give it time , because we are simply not good enough.

Nothing to do with the coach, we just need time to develop some stars, especially in the midfield.

Yeah get rid of hard body of Moloney a B&F so we an replace with spuds like Rhodan & Pedderson!

Yeah get rid off Gysberts & dont invest anymore time into a pick 12

Maybey work with what you have & maximise their efforts!

Oh yeah thats right forget Neeld just wants to burn players & get spuds in!

[Jaded No More 68,909]

Anyone you get rid of without giving them time to do what they're supposed to do is a scapegoat. If we're in this position in 12 months time, then sack Neeld and go after someone else. But to expect miracles after just one season is asking for too much.

Miracles?

How about not losing by 104 points in half a game?

How about a game plan that allows players to play to their instincts and best assets?

How about showing any sort of competitiveness for longer than 60 minutes?

Nobody is asking for miracles. We are asking for the bare minimums.

[Mongrel Dee 56]

I was at the game today. I spoke to many many supporters and there is a goodwill use by date. Members/supporters will not tolerate this for much longer, losing is one thing but floggings week after week will kill off people going to the game.

This is damaging the AFL brand and the supporter base will stay at home...then we are stuffed.

The board must come up with answers.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,209]

Anyone you get rid of without giving them time to do what they're supposed to do is a scapegoat. If we're in this position in 12 months time, then sack Neeld and go after someone else. But to expect miracles after just one season is asking for too much.

Not getting smashed by 100 points each week is a miracle?

[Chook 15,013]

That is extremely dumb.

Why else would we bring in a new coach and ring in a massive amount of changes if it wasn't to make us better?!

FMD.

Again, you're confusing poor performance now with eternal poor performance. We cannot slip into the trap of giving our coaches too little time to implement their strategies. Dean Bailey had three years, and that was enough to see that he wasn't right for the job. Mark Neeld has had half that time, and while I agree his time is running out, it has not yet come.

Of course our second half was beyond rubbish. But don't lay the blame for that at Mark Neeld's feet. Our young and extremely low-confidence side was smashed by one of the best teams in the game. Last week was all sorts of shite, and so was the week before. I agree that Neeld is partly to blame for that, and if we continue to dish those performances out every week, he'll surely go the way of Dean Bailey.

Just give the man another year to turn over the list a little more and bring in players who will do what they're told for an entire game. Players who won't run out of steam and drop their heads the moment things go bad.

Edited April 13, 2013 by Chook

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,602]

When he said 'the hardest team to play against' i didnt realise he meant out of guilt.

[Soidee 1,496]

Neelds diamonds - Sellar, Byrnes, Pederson, Rodan. All absolute shockers in 2013