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We get Tom Mc back into the back but who else is going to stand up there? Move Grimes back there as the rebounder? Get Terlich in the side?

Dean Kent? Magner? Jetta? Davey?

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Grimes, Grimes, Grimes, the number of times he handballed to a player under pressure today, he is not leadership material, I am not saying he isn't a good guy however I just don't think he is captain material. We need Mitch Clark, or Jonesy to take over the captaincy and let these young guys actually play footy.

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Dawes will give us structure, but Mitch Clark will struggle with 6 day turnaround

Tommy Mac needed for the back line

Terlich BAA was close to BOG for Casey yesterday and we need him or Strauss to use it off half back, seen today if you have one outlet (Watts) and they cut him out of the game you are screwed

I like hard players who have a dip & that is Kent & Jetta so bring them in

Trenners despite the detractors does not get towelled up by opponents and his defensive pressure is needed through the middle

Blease's pace could be hand as well, we looked slow today but that was more because we were plat footed and second to the ball and hesitant with our ball movement

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I"m seriously starting to think Roos. I can't believe I'm saying that.

Same here. We can't have a scrappy list and a mediocre (at best) coach and expect anything other than rubbish.

No more mucking around, no more assistant coaches, we NEED experience, REAL toughness that inspires rather than puts down, and some clues about setting up a gameplan.

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Grimes, Grimes, Grimes, the number of times he handballed to a player under pressure today, he is not leadership material, I am not saying he isn't a good guy however I just don't think he is captain material. We need Mitch Clark, or Jonesy to take over the captaincy and let these young guys actually play footy.

Grimes had a go and got the ball. Half the time, it seemed that if he had some help and some players around him showing energy he might have been able to give it to someone who was moving. He is a bloody good leader surrounded by lifeless corpses - I reckon he can hold his head up.

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We go to the MCG and watch the Dees redeem themselves against essendon.

OUT: Gillies, Sellar, McKenzie, Pederson and about 7 others

IN: Dawes, Magner, Terlich, Davey, Jetta

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Not much we can do.

Hope it is an aberration? Because what I saw out there was inspirationless, boring, timid, and terrible footy from all but 2, 7, 12(!), 13, 45, and 31.

They have had the life sucked out of them and you can't win footy games if you don't hunt the footy and take on your opponent - if all you are worried about is beating the bloke next to you - then he has already beaten you.

Neeld has his work cut out from what I can see.

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Where do we start?

The board must go.

Mistake after mistake after mistake, and on big decisions like picking a new coach and football department, they gutlessly handed all power over to the self serving garry Lyon, who made the biggest blunders of all by thinking he was more astute than sheedy, Matthews and ridiculously not approaching malthouse. I am dumbfounded.

We must now Chase roos. He is proven. We can't afford to take any more risks.

Ps, who in their right mind would ever pick a speculative apprentice over a successful proven master.

I am dumbfounded on how stupid some people are. Unfortunately, we are now all paying the price. Many of you supporters must take responsibility for supporting these stupid decisions. We may be the stupidity football club in the land.

Ffs, we even play games in a white jumper. The worlds gone mad!

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