Has the MFC shot itself in the foot?

[beelzebub 23,380]

PF. Surely you've heard of a club foot?

ahh but what about Le Club Foote ??

Dees are going to Party !!!

( recognise anyone ? )

[jackaub 1,402]

I don't understand this players not buying into the training regime of the new coaches/ sports scientist etc... As a number of people have stated already and i agree with is that going to another club does not mean that you are going to have it easier. The dees under Bailey have had under-par pre-seasons and I'm guessing a lot of encouragement and positivity even when they are not training/performing at AFL standards. Neeld and craig have brought an AFL standard to our club and even though the first season has resulted in poor performances we only need to look at Hawthorn to show us how their development happened... around the time Clarkson came in, made the tough decisions and made Hawthorn a hard team to play against... Hawks were near the bottom of the ladder for a number of years, it paid off now. A game plan which has strong emphasis of defensive efforts not only as a team but also at stoppages. This is something that Neeld is trying to implement which and I hope after a couple more pre-seasons we can see real development in our younger players and hopefully final football in a few years!

The Hawks were known as party boys and that contribuuted to their lowly position over many yearsThe Dees have had the same attitude for a long time due to soft management and a weak board.The boys club is over and some ( Didnt buy into it) what ever that means and they will be moved onNeeld has a definite plan and a definite demand for the player attributes he requiresHe has given the whole playing group one year to "buy into it" If they havent then they will go elsewhere.Nobody can say he didnt give them a chance to impress.

[The Reverend 1,736]

Thats where you dreamers must live in. Tell me, you seem to know about bottomless pits.

If I could make sense of your response I'd reply, but I can't so let's pretend we never communicated. I'm too busy dreaming of the grand old flag flying high once more to waste my time with perverse, pessimistic, prats.

[640MD 3,383]

Wh not let the Football Department do their job !

They got us Mitch last year despite Freo,

They got Jack V in the second round, despite all the negative vibes on the football boards,

We still have not committed picks 3,4 or 13 despite rumours,

Dawes Wellingham are not worth 3 or 4 if we can see that surely the FD can as well,

If ou think you can do the carpentry better than the chippy why employ them in the first place !

Its their job ! Don't get overly excited about rumours !

Go Dees Come on 2013 !!

[rjay 24,950]

ahh but what about Le Club Foote ??

Dees are going to Party !!!

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( recognise anyone ? )

Good one 'BB', did you mean Kim?

[H_T 3,049]

Too many see Neeld as the messiah at this club. So far only words and promises backed up by perhaps the worst season ever by this club. Now many rejoice at getting young Viney as a major coup. He who was promised to us by blood several years ago. And looks like the war chest is in fact a Salvo's recycling bag.

Do you ever smile?

Where has anyone here (apart from Range Rover) shouted from the rooftops that Neeld is the messiah?

Give me examples.

[old dee 23,797]

Do you ever smile?

Where has anyone here (apart from Range Rover) shouted from the rooftops that Neeld is the messiah?

Give me examples.

I think the answer is a definate NO. H_T

[praha 11,240]

For once the club initiates change and people still find something to complain about.

[Sir Why You Little 37,049]

Sorry, i am looking at the Back Page of todays HUN..Todd & Jack Viney standing on the MCG

Our Father/Son pick 26.

What is the point of this thread...??

[Little Goffy 14,580]

Mods, any chance we can do a grand merger to create a 'general pointless sooking thread'?

[BarnDee 287]

I will look forward to how some posters will find negative things to say on the day we finally win the flag. Let's have a competition on guessing what they'll say. For example:

Once again none of our players won the Norm Smith. The FD has some questions to answer.

GOLD

[satyricon 267]

I am a poster on Demonland

I will believe anything said on "On the Couch", SEN. by Damian Barrett, by Paul Roos, by Grant Thomas and anyone else looking for a cheap headline

I will have my opinions formed by a mixture of the above

I don't know why Shannon Byrnes joined, nobody else wants to?

Give it rest, we are in day two of the trade period, let's wait till the end of November and see what the list looks like

And for the record, being on Twitter whilst Barrett was rabbiting on yesterday I bombarded @traderadio and @barrettdamian, asking him to back up his theory that NOBODY wants to come to MFC with facts.....did one get read out.....NO!!!...strange that

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

And for the record, being on Twitter whilst Barrett was rabbiting on yesterday I bombarded @traderadio and @barrettdamian, asking him to back up his theory that NOBODY wants to come to MFC with facts.....did one get read out.....NO!!!...strange that

It's all right. It's slowly sinking in to their collective tiny minds that Port are the new basket case/disaster area/whipping boys.

Soon it will be as if they've never heard of MFC, they'll be so busy sinking the slipper into Port.

[dpositive 1,665]

Maybe any supporters who aren't prepared to buy in should be shown the door too?

Too easy

Show them they are wrong!

We are on the way

GO DEES!!!!!

[The Reverend 1,736]

I have read on this forum countless times that the club needed a harder edge and a more defensive mind set to compete with the strong clubs and win finals football in the future. Its a case of having to go backwards to move forward. Whilst i agree with this, I cant help but think the club has shot itself in the foot. All reports say that the club is struggling to attract fringe players from other clubs. Or any players for that matter.

I do not want this to turn into a 'I hate Neeld' discussion, but the un attractive style of football we have played, and the word out being the FD dept is in disarray due to and many players not 'buying in' to the new 'Culture' and Elite Performance', IMO opinion has contibuted to club being 'off limits' to the rest of the competition.

Has the FD's style worked against the club this trade and FA period? My opinion is yes.

At the end of last season most supporters had alot of hope the club would be on its way to be 'the hardest club to play against'. The hope extended to moving forward (or backwards) with signs the club is on the right direction. I think Mitch Clark bought into this and came to us as a result. Now the club looks like it has gone bacwards with 5 years wasted with its recruiting and development. Either way, the club cant attract new players as a result. this new build is massively important and with all the issues this year, we are struggling just as much off field with most players (inside and out of the club) not seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.

I can see the 'In Neeld I trust' poster come into bat for the club. I trust Neeld too, but is the process the right way to go. This I question

Hey Demonsterative. What do you think after Day 2? Have we shot ourselves in the other foot?

The future looks very bright my friend.

[ILLDieADemon 804]

We need forwards bad. We have none with out Clark.

[Undeeterred 3,124]

This is all about momentum. So we get a couple of good picks who make an impact, and a couple of more fringe FAs.

We win 7 or 8 next year.

It becomes more palateable to come to MFC, and we get one or two higher impact FAs next year, along with another early first rounder.

We win 9 or 10 the next year.

We are just building - it simply isn't going to happen overnight and we will need that slow build before a Cloke or a Goddard is really willing to come here.

[monoccular 17,432]

We need forwards bad. We have none with out Clark.

We have forwards bad: we have had forwards bad for a long time. We need forwards good!

Does Hogan go anyways at all, even just slightly, at appeasing you, albeit not for another 12 months?

Dom and Shannon as crumbers?

Oh, sorry we couldn't get Cloke, Tippett, Franklin, Roughead because "nobody wants to come to us".

And I am still not quite clear about the shooting in the foot reference. Maybe getting three, or at least two, highly sought after players in two days is shooting oneself in the foot?

Edited October 9, 2012 by monoccular

[Chelly 812]

Perhaps if people have issues with our club and it's recruiting, this might get you excited about what Carlton's planning for the rest of the FA/trade/draft period:-

[ILLDieADemon 804]

Perhaps if people have issues with our club and it's recruiting, this might get you excited about what Carlton's planning for the rest of the FA/trade/draft period:-

Zzzzzzzzzz. I hope they go [censored] next season.