THE CONTRACTS THREAD [with updates]

[rpfc 27,436]

2016
Dawes, Grimes, Watts, Michie, Vince, Tyson

2015
Clark, Trengove, Jamar (UFA), Garland (RFA), McKenzie, Howe, Jones (RFA), Evans, Gawn, Fitzpatrick, Viney, Toumpas, Pedersen, Hogan

2014
Frawley (RFA), Tapscott, McDonald, Blease, Strauss, Spencer, Bail, Dunn, Byrnes, Barry, Kent, Jones, Terlich, Cross, Clisby, Riley

2013
Sylvia (UFA), Davey (RFA), Taggert, Tynan, Nicholson, MacDonald, Sellar, Jetta, Davis, Couch ®, Magner ®, Rodan, Gillies, Stark ®

2014 Primary List Spots Created: 9

2014 Additions: Hogan, Tyson, ND9, Vince, ND40, Michie, Cross, Riley, Clisby, ND58, PSD2,

FA Eligibilty (8+ years from being drafted/recruited)

2014
Frawley RFA

2015
Jamar UFA Garland UFA* Jones UFA Spencer UFA*

2016
Grimes RFA Watts RFA/UFA* Blease RFA/UFA* Strauss UFA* Jetta UFA* Bail UFA* McKenzie UFA*

2017
Trengove RFA Tapscott RFA/UFA* Gawn UFA* Fitzpatrick UFA*

2018
Howe RFA McDonald RFA Nicholson UFA* Evans UFA*

2019
Clark RFA

2020
Toumpas RFA Viney RFA Kent RFA M.Jones UFA* Terlich UFA* Clisby UFA* Dawes RFA

* Likely outside of top 10 of earners at club.

Edited November 11, 2013 by rpfc

[old dee 22,848]

There are other threads but I think they are messy and I can't be stuffed going looking for something NQR.

Here are the contracts for people who think a contracted Martin will be gone or for those fans worried about what Healy said to McLardy last night about youngsters not re-signing.

2015

Clark, Trengove

2014

Frawley, Tapscott

2013

Watts, Sylvia, Davey, Gysberts, Grimes, Taggert, Gawn, Martin, Tynan, Sellar (assumed automatic 2 yr deal),

2012

OOC (in number order)

Jones, Batram, Bennell, McKenzie, Petterd, Blease, Strauss, Garland, Cook, Jurrah, McDonald, , MacDonald, Howe, Jetta, Davis, Spencer, Bail, Fitzpatrick

Rookies (upgrade or delist)

Nicholson ®, Evans ®, Lawrence ®

Rookies (1 year option)

Couch, Magner, Sheahan, Williams

RFA

Moloney

UFA

Jamar, Green, Rivers, Bate, and Dunn.

I hope this helps people with any confusion over who is out of contract.

A great deal of talent is out of contract...

Thanks rpfc

Makes for interesting reading

Somebody has a lot of work to do over the next 3 months.

I reckon there are a number of the ooc group that will have their manager looking for offers, my guess is 8.

of which 3 probably won't get a choice.

Only my view from the stand of course

[Cheap Seats 3,300]

There are other threads but I think they are messy and I can't be stuffed going looking for something NQR.

Here are the contracts for people who think a contracted Martin will be gone or for those fans worried about what Healy said to McLardy last night about youngsters not re-signing.

2015

Clark, Trengove

2014

Frawley, Tapscott

2013

Watts, Sylvia, Davey, Gysberts, Grimes, Taggert, Gawn, Martin, Tynan, Sellar (assumed automatic 2 yr deal),

2012

OOC (in number order)

Jones, Batram, Bennell, McKenzie, Petterd, Blease, Strauss, Garland, Cook, Jurrah, McDonald, , MacDonald, Howe, Jetta, Davis, Spencer, Bail, Fitzpatrick

Rookies (upgrade or delist)

Nicholson ®, Evans ®, Lawrence ®

Rookies (1 year option)

Couch, Magner, Sheahan, Williams

RFA

Moloney

UFA

Jamar, Green, Rivers, Bate, and Dunn.

I hope this helps people with any confusion over who is out of contract.

A great deal of talent is out of contract...

Thanks rpfc

Good to have confirmed

[drdrake 3,037]

A lot of players out I would have them ranked on priority as below

Jones, Howe, Blease, Rivers, McKenzie, Jamar, Jurrah, Strauss, McDonald, Garland, Batram, Bail, Moloney, Petterd, Davis, Jetta,Nicholson, Bate, Dunn, Bennell, Cook, Fitzpatrick, MacDonald, Spencer, Green

On the Rookies keep Couch, Magner on the rookie list and I think you can nominate 1 or 2 that has been on your rookie list for 2 years that can remain, for me Evans and Lawrance would be good to keep as Rookies

[Binmans PA 25,997]

Order of importance for me: Garland, Blease, McDonald, McKenzie, Jones, Jamar, Jurrah, Rivers, Howe, Strauss and then the rest.

[Cheesecake 92]

A lot of players out I would have them ranked on priority as below

Jones, Howe, Blease, Rivers, McKenzie, Jamar, Jurrah, Strauss, McDonald, Garland, Batram, Bail, Moloney, Petterd, Davis, Jetta,Nicholson, Bate, Dunn, Bennell, Cook, Fitzpatrick, MacDonald, Spencer, Green

On the Rookies keep Couch, Magner on the rookie list and I think you can nominate 1 or 2 that has been on your rookie list for 2 years that can remain, for me Evans and Lawrance would be good to keep as Rookies

Interesting. Not an easy call to make. Here's my attempt.

Jones, Jamar, Jurrah*, Garland, McKenzie, Blease, Rivers, Howe, Bartram, Strauss, Moloney, McDonald, Bail, Bennell, Petterd, Nicholson, Davis, Dunn, Bate, Cook, Jetta, Fitzpatrick, MacDonald, Green, Spencer.

* obvious implications around court findings to consider

Wow! That was hard!

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Jones will really enjoy quite a pay increase i recon.

[Barney Rubble 1,576]

There are other threads but I think they are messy and I can't be stuffed going looking for something NQR.

Here are the contracts for people who think a contracted Martin will be gone or for those fans worried about what Healy said to McLardy last night about youngsters not re-signing.

2015

Clark, Trengove

2014

Frawley, Tapscott

2013

Watts, Sylvia, Davey, Gysberts, Grimes, Taggert, Gawn, Martin, Tynan, Sellar (assumed automatic 2 yr deal),

2012

OOC (in number order)

Jones, Batram, Bennell, McKenzie, Petterd, Blease, Strauss, Garland, Cook, Jurrah, McDonald, , MacDonald, Howe, Jetta, Davis, Spencer, Bail, Fitzpatrick

Rookies (upgrade or delist)

Nicholson ®, Evans ®, Lawrence ®

Rookies (1 year option)

Couch, Magner, Sheahan, Williams

RFA

Moloney

UFA

Jamar, Green, Rivers, Bate, and Dunn.

I hope this helps people with any confusion over who is out of contract.

A great deal of talent is out of contract...

2012 ooc

Interesting I wouldn't miss 12 of those at all.

The problem is getting replacements.

Edited May 31, 2012 by Chippy

[dee-luded 2,958]

A lot of players out I would have them ranked on priority as below

Jones, Howe, Blease, Rivers, McKenzie, Jamar, Jurrah, Strauss, McDonald, Garland, Batram, Bail, Moloney, Petterd, Davis, Jetta,Nicholson, Bate, Dunn, Bennell, Cook, Fitzpatrick, MacDonald, Spencer, Green

On the Rookies keep Couch, Magner on the rookie list and I think you can nominate 1 or 2 that has been on your rookie list for 2 years that can remain, for me Evans and Lawrance would be good to keep as Rookies

I'll rate mine in order of preference..

* Jones, Howe, TMcDonald, Davis, Garland, Blease, Fitzpatrick, McKenzie, Strauss, Rivers, Spencer, Petterd, Cook, Nicholson, Bartram, Jetta, Bennell, Jamar, Bail, Moloney, Jurrah, Bate, MacDonald, Dunn, Green.

[old dee 22,848]

Just noticed an interesting one, Cook

Wonder if he wants to stay?

[Neita3000 37]

Just noticed an interesting one, Cook

Wonder if he wants to stay?

Who would pick him up?

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Jones, Howe, Mcdonald, Jurrah, Blease, Jamar, McKenzie, Cook, Garland, Rivers, Strauss, Moloney, Bail, Nicholson, Petterd, Davis

others need to earn a spot

Edited May 31, 2012 by Jordie_tackles

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Who would pick him up?

Alot of teams, as clubs dont right off all asutralian U18 CHF after 1.5 years

like supporters do

[old dee 22,848]

I'll rate mine in order of preference..

* Jones, Howe, TMcDonald, Davis, Garland, Blease, Fitzpatrick, McKenzie, Strauss, Rivers, Spencer, Petterd, Cook, Nicholson, Bartram, Jetta, Bennell, Jamar, Bail, Moloney, Jurrah, Bate, MacDonald, Dunn, Green.

You rate him 21st out of 25.

Behind Fitzpatrick, Petterd, cook, Bennell and Bail.

Not sure you will have many agreeing on that one Dee-luded certainly not me.

From that list there is only one other I would say has Star ability.

Why so low?

[old dee 22,848]

Alot of teams, as clubs dont right off all asutralian U18 CHF after 1.5 years

like supporters do

My question was would he want to stay?

Only signed a 2 year initial deal

Now who does that remind me of.....

Would he want to stay?

Edited May 31, 2012 by old dee

[dee-luded 2,958]

You rate him 21st out of 25.

Behind Fitzpatrick, Petterd, cook, Bennell and Bail.

Not sure you will have many agreeing on that one Dee-luded certainly not me.

From that list there is only one other I would say has Star ability.

Why so low?

Yep, at this point, about that. Hardness & work ethick, almost nil. I'd rather keep Sylvia.

Excitement counts for zero, when the tough things aren't desired. Flash over the pan.

# edit: Do you really think I right things for people to agree with? I right things hopefully for some people to think about some more.

Edited May 31, 2012 by dee-luded

[Jordie_tackles 354]

My question was would he want to stay?

Only signed a 2 year initial deal

Now who does that remind me of.....

Would he want to stay?

Ok i answered someone else, but i think he would,

We need a KPF obviously and Watts is becoming further from it.....

He has been injured so i doubt he can claim he has been starved of opportunity

If we somehow get Cloke then he will become dispensable and maybe some nice trade bait

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Yep, at this point, about that. Hardness & work ethick, almost nil. I'd rather keep Sylvia.

Excitement counts for zero, when the tough things aren't desired. Flash over the pan.

Thought he worked hard on the w/e personally, chased ect

Edited May 31, 2012 by Jordie_tackles

[dee-luded 2,958]

Thought he worked hard on the w/e personally, chased ect

Leopards & spots. It'll take more than 6 months of good stuff to convince me he wants to change his desire for the contest. it's not the chasing, it's the hog tying & bringing them down bare handed i want to see from him. so what if he gets hurt or breaks a fingernail.

I'm hoping for us to find finals winning players.

Not tiddlee-winks players.

[old dee 22,848]

Yep, at this point, about that. Hardness & work ethick, almost nil. I'd rather keep Sylvia.

Excitement counts for zero, when the tough things aren't desired. Flash over the pan.

# edit: Do you really think I right things for people to agree with? I right things hopefully for some people to think about some more.

Stay calm Dee-luded

No I don't think you write just so people will agree.

I was just surprised you rated him so lowly.

Just wanted your opinion why

[Macca 16,173]

Thanks rpfc

Makes for interesting reading

Somebody has a lot of work to do over the next 3 months.

I reckon there are a number of the ooc group that will have their manager looking for offers, my guess is 8.

of which 3 probably won't get a choice.

Only my view from the stand of course

24 out of 39 are out of contract at seasons end . Is this some sort of record number? Seems an awfully high figure . And we haven't heard much at all about re-signing any of them .

And of the 15 that are contracted post 2012 , there's a few that some supporters would rather see the end of (Sylvia , Morton and Davey) and another 3 that are in the 1st year of their initial 2 year contract .

What this indicates to me is that the club is looking to 'turn over' quite a number on our list . Or at least be a big player at the trade table and in the 'free agency' area .

Thanks for posting the list 'rpfc' . Didn't see Morton there (contracted till the end of 2013)

Edited May 31, 2012 by Macca

[Guest José Mourinho]

24 out of 39 are out of contract at seasons end . Is this some sort of record number? Seems an awfully high figure . And we haven't heard much at all about re-signing any of them .

And of the 15 that are contracted post 2012 , there's a few that some supporters would rather see the end of (Sylvia , Morton and Davey) and another 3 that are in the 1st year of their initial 2 year contract .

What this indicates to me is that the club is looking to 'turn over' quite a number on our list . Or at least be a big player at the trade table and in the 'free agency' area .

Thanks for posting the list 'rpfc' . Didn't see Morton there (contracted till the end of 2013)

I'm not sure that it's all that unusual, but I imagine we'd normally have more players already sewn up, if we didn't have new coaching group trying to form firm opinions on the players first.

[Macca 16,173]

I'm not sure that it's all that unusual, but I imagine we'd normally have more players already sewn up, if we didn't have new coaching group trying to form firm opinions on the players first.

It's mighty unusual . 24 out of 39 is unprecedented . I reckon it might have been about 12-14 last year for instance . Obviously the new coaching group would make the figure a bit higher . I'm with old dee on this one - there's probably more than a few looking elsewhere . The figure is too high to suggest otherwise .

[Guest José Mourinho]

By the law of averages, I'd you're correct about players looking elsewhere.

Quite a few we shouldnt be worried about.

I think at least 5 of Petterd, Moloney, Jamar, Green, MacDonald, Bate, Sylvia and Dunn will go.

Possibly all.

Some poached, others not.

[Macca 16,173]

By the law of averages, I'd you're correct about players looking elsewhere.

Quite a few we shouldnt be worried about.

I think at least 5 of Petterd, Moloney, Jamar, Green, MacDonald, Bate, Sylvia and Dunn will go.

Possibly all.

Some poached, others not.

Our list is underperforming so much it's difficult to know where to begin . We'll have a much better idea at seasons end . The interesting bit is that our own free agents coupled with the contracted Sylvia and Davey hold the key to our re-build . And it's looking increasingly likely that that's what we'll be doing .

I can foresee a stack of new players at the club next year . Through trading , the draft and hopefully 3-4 players picked up as free agents . We may go for Cloke but he'll probably take up too much of our salary cap . Experienced midfielders are what we need - desperately