2011 TRADES DISCUSSION

[Dr. Mubutu 694]

If we make a play for Setanta, all my faith in our list management department will be lost - he is an absolute hack who is made to look reasonable by the midfield that delivers the ball to him.

But I thought we needed a big-bodied forward presence.......

[Scipio 5,868]

But I thought we needed a big-bodied forward presence.......

If it is someone of that standard, we'd be much better off using Martin or Gawn.

[Radar Detector 1,339]

Controversial I know (and pie in the sky) but I'd throw both our compo picks plus Jamar for Pendlebury. We need a gun mid more than anything else and I think we have the ruck stocks to cover the Russian in two years time. Jolly is looking on his last legs at the Pies but having a gun ruck was a massive ingredient in their 2010 flag win.

I still think we'll be fine for tall forwards, just need to be patient.

[Dr. Mubutu 694]

If it is someone of that standard, we'd be much better off using Martin or Gawn.

It was more bagging the people who want to trade for Kosi. I think we've got enough forwards ATM. (But to be honest, I'd prefer the big Setant over Kosi anyway...)

[Scipio 5,868]

It was more bagging the people who want to trade for Kosi. I think we've got enough forwards ATM. (But to be honest, I'd prefer the big Setant over Kosi anyway...)

Yeah, I would be all for trading for a quality player who can fill the role, but there aren't many available at the moment, and a midfielder should be number one priority anyway IMO. I

[rpfc 27,413]

GWS have to trade the four 17 year olds though, don't they?

Yes they do.

I don't know who does the 'ordering' based on the accepted trades though. The AFL or GWS? Both? The comission?

[Outside fifty 967]

If Meatloaf is the rock and roll equivalent of Sheedy I can only surmise that the Beiber equivalent would be Scully. Seeing as Bieber is a talentless haircut masquerading as a pop star, I feel its safe to conclude that Scully is equally devoid of talent and substance and is a draft pick masquerading as a footballer. Then again I could be wrong.

[old55 21,227]

GWS have to trade the four 17 year olds though, don't they?

They have 2 years to do it over and they don't HAVE to, but they can and it's in their best interests to do so because they can't pick up those players.in that year.

[Demons 32 235]

I would like to see us trade for Jarred Waite.... He is rumoured to be having contract issues at Carlton and is an extremely talented forward with mongrel.

[Hobbits's 17]

Bate and pick 53 to Adelaide for pick 52.

would rather pick 39 from the dogs for Bate and 54.

[mauriesy 6,786]

I would like to see us trade for Jarred Waite.... He is rumoured to be having contract issues at Carlton and is an extremely talented forward with mongrel.

He'll be lucky to play 10 games for the rest of his career.

[Kento80 83]

Controversial I know (and pie in the sky) but I'd throw both our compo picks plus Jamar for Pendlebury. We need a gun mid more than anything else and I think we have the ruck stocks to cover the Russian in two years time. Jolly is looking on his last legs at the Pies but having a gun ruck was a massive ingredient in their 2010 flag win.

I still think we'll be fine for tall forwards, just need to be patient.

I love the big russian, BUT, for Pendlebury??? That may make me change my mind. I can't see the pies letting him go, but if the club reckon we can get him it could be worth taking a shot.

[Lutz 76]

I seriously doubt the potential of that trade proposal.

Collingwood would want an ageing ruckman to extend their window?

Wouldn't trading their best young midfielder close that window on them?

Swan, Thomas and Ball are all great, but Pendlebury is clearly best of the lot in my eyes.

[Radar Detector 1,339]

Never said it was likely - in fact I think I claimed the opposite! Still, I'd throw something at them that they at least wouldn't laugh at and I think that is the best we could do.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

Pendlebury would be the dream and we know he rates Meeks highly, so maybe if he has a bad year with bucks he may come over.

If one is to dream it may as well be big!

[dee-luded 2,958]

I would like to see us trade for Jarred Waite.... He is rumoured to be having contract issues at Carlton and is an extremely talented forward with mongrel.

Don't bother. I tried this last season, for Waite. No one wanted to know. He would have been perfect.

Edited October 4, 2011 by dee-luded

[Mazer Rackham 14,969]

I would like to see us trade for Jarred Waite.... He is rumoured to be having contract issues at Carlton and is an extremely talented forward with mongrel.

They really value him at the Blues and the price will be high ... in other words, over the odds.

[dee-luded 2,958]

Pendlebury would be the dream and we know he rates Meeks highly, so maybe if he has a bad year with bucks he may come over.

If one is to dream it may as well be big!

Yeah, but probably they're Captain in Waiting. It would be nice, but.

[The Big Ticket 94]

Why bother with Pendles now? We can land him for nothing this time next year.

[Lutz 76]

How? PSD?

You really think he'd last til our pick?

Or have you misunderstood the free agency rules?

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Don't bother. I tried this last season, for Waite. No one wanted to know. He would have been perfect.

Injury riddled and white line fever that provides plenty of MRP holidays.

Great when up and firing and could be a gun player....but isn't. Caveat emptor.

[Bingo 235]

Yeah, I would be all for trading for a quality player who can fill the role, but there aren't many available at the moment, and a midfielder should be number one priority anyway IMO. I

Looking through the possible trade options in the age newspaper this morning i saw that they had Liam Anthony listed from North as possible trade bait. I think someone like that could fill a role in our midfield and i don't think he's been discussed on our board recently.

He could provide some strength around the stoppages and he knows how to rack them up.

Chris Knights from Adelaid is also another i'd be interested in. With David Misson on board i'd back us in to get recently injury prone players back on the park.

[Lutz 76]

The way the rules on compo picks read, when one is traded, if it is not activated for that year, the team receiving it can choose to activate it for the upcoming draft, or keep it for later years.

That also indicates that a team receiving an activated pick can actuality de-activate it, saving it for later when it might be worth more.

Based on that, if we were to trade for Brisbane's pick 30, actually the end of 1st round compo pick for Harbrow that the Lions received in the Sherman trade, we could deactivate it and use it at pick 20 in 2013 or 2014.

Obviously the rules would need to be clarified with AFL house.

Maybe not worth it in the end, but an option worth considering if we are to trade with Brisbane at all.

I wouldn't mind Jack Redden.

[hardtack 10,126]

Looking through the possible trade options in the age newspaper this morning i saw that they had Liam Anthony listed from North as possible trade bait. I think someone like that could fill a role in our midfield and i don't think he's been discussed on our board recently.

He could provide some strength around the stoppages and he knows how to rack them up.

Chris Knights from Adelaid is also another i'd be interested in. With David Misson on board i'd back us in to get recently injury prone players back on the park.

From those lists, I think Nason from nthMond, Farren Ray, Kozi and Goddard from StK and Chris Dawes are all worth consideration - I used to think it might be worth pursuing Jesse White, but I'm not so sure about that anymore after some of his "passenger" like performances with the Swans this year.

On a slightly different tack, I see that Ling is likely to announce his retirement... is that code for "going to GWS"?

Edited October 4, 2011 by hardtack

[Bingo 235]

From those lists, I think Nason from nthMond, Farren Ray, Kozi and Goddard from StK and Chris Dawes are all worth consideration - I used to think it might be worth pursuing Jesse White, but I'm not so sure about that anymore after some of his "passenger" like performances with the Swans this year.

On a slightly different tack, I see that Ling is likely to announce his retirement... is that code for "going to GWS"?

A year or 2 ago i was all for trading in Jesse White too....but the gut is a hack.

My brother is a Swans supporter and the support on the Swans forums isn't good....i also went to the Swans v Hawthorn prelim a couple of weeks ago and must say that the guy isn't a power forward at all. He just doesn't hit the packs/stands and watches the play. There was occasions when you could tell he was generally supprised to get the ball...then crap himself and rush a kick. He isn't the answer to our forward line.

I'd be looking at Lewis Johnston, Jordan Lisle & Callum Wilson before Jesse White.