Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted

Happy to admit i appear to be one of only a few who feel that the days of best available are over however i'm just keen on hearing why people think its the better option.

I agreed with the policy of years gone by, however we are no longer a 'rebuilding' club. We have most pieces in place now we just need development and certain areas fixed. Thats why i think we now need to draft for needs. I really hope if Lynch and Smedts are both on the board at 12 we choose Lynch even though Smedts is probably the 'better' player.

Who knows, the FD know what they are doing but its my 2 cents

  • Replies 67
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted

Well I would have thrown this pick at Sydney or Brisbane to get a FF/ruck so I am in the FCS let's get a FF/ruck camp.

But when you are picking 18 year olds - you really should go for the talent.

But by all means have a 'tall player affirmative action' plan...

Posted

With the club planning on getting another (probable) gun young mid in 2012 ie Viney, has that also factored into their thinking now in relation to taking the chance on a tall. I believe it is a calculated risk that the club should take.

Posted

With the club planning on getting another (probable) gun young mid in 2012 ie Viney, has that also factored into their thinking now in relation to taking the chance on a tall. I believe it is a calculated risk that the club should take.

Interesting thought there. Family and love aside, How good is Jack Viney?? Top 5 in the draft-is he that good. I have seen nothing of him play, just read snippets off here.

The Westies did well with there Wallis F/S he looks a star. Is jack Viney on a par??


Posted

Interesting thought there. Family and love aside, How good is Jack Viney?? Top 5 in the draft-is he that good. I have seen nothing of him play, just read snippets off here.

The Westies did well with there Wallis F/S he looks a star. Is jack Viney on a par??

All the reports I've seen on his suggest he'd be a likely top five if not the no. 1. Absolute value for money. We'll be spending our first round pick on him, but it's totally worth it.

Posted

All the reports I've seen on his suggest he'd be a likely top five if not the no. 1. Absolute value for money. We'll be spending our first round pick on him, but it's totally worth it.

That's good to know...Thanks. 2-3 years down the track. Could this be our Decade? 'Bout time we got some luck B)

Posted

That's good to know...Thanks. 2-3 years down the track. Could this be our Decade? 'Bout time we got some luck B)

This got me a little excited.

Posted

Fwiw, i'd be drafting a KPF with pick 12 and not looking anywhere near a player under 189/90 kilos

Didn't know we were looking at players with the physique of a 2007 Geoff Huegill.

Posted

I'm big on best available, but I also see the merits in getting a big KPF. Whether or not we draft a KPF with pick 12 I am not entirely sure - that would depend on who is available at pick 12. GC have several picks prior to our pick - I would suspect one or two - of the best - might be drafted by them.

I'm sure the FD - as always - would have a run down of different scenario's in place if their desired draftees fall before pick 12.

I'm aware of some of the players KS has predicted might go at pick 12. I like Smedts and Lynch out of those. I also like the look of Inner Demon's Callum Sinclair (22yo) option. (perhaps a later pick option ~ 32, 49/52 ?)

Best available for me. There is always next year in October if the club desires to go all out for an established KPF within the AFL. But that doesn't mean we might not draft a KPF to develop in this year's draft.

Posted

never, never bet your balls steamin, they might come in handy one day :)

Humanity may be better off if he lost his.

On recruiting. I'm firmly in the best available camp at all times. We can always trade a gun midfielder surplus to our needs but a dud bigman is always a dud bigman.

Posted

My dream (semi-realistic) draft:

pick 12 - Tom Lynch - giant KPF with freak athleticism, good below the knees

pick 32 - Ben Jacobs - rebounding ball magnet with booming kick

pick 49 - Luke Mitchell - promising young KPP

pick 52 - Callum Sinclair - mature bodied KPF/ruck

Posted

Best available >>>>> best what ??????

If you're looking for a ute you don't buy a BMW m3 !! It's a great car but not what you NEED !

What we need as a team has been discussed ad nauseum. So by all means can we get the best available ... Big forward !!!

Posted (edited)

If you're looking for a ute you don't buy a BMW m3 !! It's a great car but not what you NEED !

But they're both the same price, so you would obviously take the BMW.

If you really needed the ute the you could take the BMW now, then sell it. With that value you could buy your ute and still have enough left over to buy a Commodore.

Ute + Commodore > Ute.

Edited by Axis of Bob

Posted

My dream (semi-realistic) draft:

pick 12 - Tom Lynch - giant KPF with freak athleticism, good below the knees

pick 32 - Ben Jacobs - rebounding ball magnet with booming kick

pick 49 - Luke Mitchell - promising young KPP

pick 52 - Callum Sinclair - mature bodied KPF/ruck

You are the biggest armchair recruiter on this site.

Mitchell is a Rookie prospect at best due to his inability below his knees, and to think Ben Jacobs would be still there at pick 32 is just a joke.

Posted

You are the biggest armchair recruiter on this site.

Mitchell is a Rookie prospect at best due to his inability below his knees, and to think Ben Jacobs would be still there at pick 32 is just a joke.

Yeah, but I openly admit it.

I don't have a clue compared to BP & TH.

Mitchell will go much higher than rookie draft.

Jacobs will probably be taken about 10 picks before then, but that's why it's a dream scenario.

For you to make those claims make you just as bad as me sherlock.

Posted

I think we've still got deficiencies in all areas of our list. Sure I've been banging on about the need for a forward-ruck but the problem there is maturity not that we haven't got any prospects - Fitzpatrick and Gawn were drafted last year. Prioritising getting another 18yo on our list is not particularly helpful - we need everything - defensive small backs, attacking small backs, tall backs, inside mids, outside mids, tall forwards, small forwards - one of the areas we're probably best served in the hopper for is ruck with Spencer, Gawn and Fitzpatrick in development. That's why if I favour continuing with "best available" (whatever that exactly means) with our early picks. Trade for a specific role.

Posted (edited)

I think with Melb's courting of Hale we have seen the FD start to be more focused on filling holes in an almost complete line up rather than staying with the best available. Looking at Collingwood last year with Jolly and Ball teams get more specific in their needs as they close in on the top four and flag. I'd suggest like many that we would be looking at our forward line needs with pick 12, and the days of "best available" are behind us or at least more nuanced.

Edited by predman
Posted

The best available at all times.

Turn it around and imagine standing up and explaining to your board that you bypassed a better footballer who was at exactly the same price to take someone that you freely admit is not as good a footballer. Best way to lose your job.

Posted

I think with Melb's courting of Hale we have seen the FD start to be more focused on filling holes in an almost complete line up rather than staying with the best available. Looking at Collingwood last year with Jolly and Ball teams get more specific in their needs as they close in on the top four and flag. I'd suggest like many that we would be looking at our forward line needs with pick 12, and the days of "best available" are behind us or at least more nuanced.

There's a big difference between trade and draft.

Posted (edited)

Best available >>>>> best what ??????

If you're looking for a ute you don't buy a BMW m3 !! It's a great car but not what you NEED !

What we need as a team has been discussed ad nauseum. So by all means can we get the best available ... Big forward !!!

But they're both the same price, so you would obviously take the BMW.

If you really needed the ute the you could take the BMW now, then sell it. With that value you could buy your ute and still have enough left over to buy a Commodore.

Ute + Commodore > Ute.

Clarkson, May & Hammond discussing the draft now?

I think with Melb's courting of Hale we have seen the FD start to be more focused on filling holes in an almost complete line up rather than staying with the best available. Looking at Collingwood last year with Jolly and Ball teams get more specific in their needs as they close in on the top four and flag. I'd suggest like many that we would be looking at our forward line needs with pick 12, and the days of "best available" are behind us or at least more nuanced.

+ 1 - in agreement with belzebub & predman.

It is an area we need to look to fill, the player available will be one of the best available at the time. Pretty simple.

Edited by Demon Hill

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    TRAINING: Friday 22nd November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force on a scorching morning out at Gosch's Paddock for the final session before the whole squad reunites for the Preseason Training Camp. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS It’s going to be a scorcher today but I’m in the shade at Gosch’s Paddock ready to bring you some observations from the final session before the Preseason Training Camp next week.  Salem, Fritsch & Campbell are already on the track. Still no number on Campbell’s

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 3

    UP IN LIGHTS by Whispering Jack

    Those who watched the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships closely this year would not be particularly surprised that Melbourne selected Victoria Country pair Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay on the first night of the AFL National Draft. The two left-footed midfielders are as different as chalk and cheese but they had similar impacts in their Coates Talent League teams and in the National Championships in 2024. Their interstate side was edged out at the very end of the tournament for tea

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    TRAINING: Wednesday 20th November 2024

    It’s a beautiful cool morning down at Gosch’s Paddock and I’ve arrived early to bring you my observations from today’s session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Reigning Keith Bluey Truscott champion Jack Viney is the first one out on the track.  Jack’s wearing the red version of the new training guernsey which is the only version available for sale at the Demon Shop. TRAINING: Viney, Clarry, Lever, TMac, Rivers, Petty, McVee, Bowey, JVR, Hore, Tom Campbell (in tr

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 18th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock for the final week of training for the 1st to 4th Years until they are joined by the rest of the senior squad for Preseason Training Camp in Mansfield next week. WAYNE RUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS No Ollie, Chin, Riv today, but Rick & Spargs turned up and McDonald was there in casual attire. Seston, and Howes did a lot of boundary running, and Tom Campbell continued his work with individual trainer in non-MFC

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #11 Max Gawn

    Champion ruckman and brilliant leader, Max Gawn earned his seventh All-Australian team blazer and constantly held the team up on his shoulders in what was truly a difficult season for the Demons. Date of Birth: 30 December 1991 Height: 209cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 224 Goals MFC 2024: 11 Career Total: 109 Brownlow Medal Votes: 13 Melbourne Football Club: 2nd Best & Fairest: 405 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 12

    2024 Player Reviews: #36 Kysaiah Pickett

    The Demons’ aggressive small forward who kicks goals and defends the Demons’ ball in the forward arc. When he’s on song, he’s unstoppable but he did blot his copybook with a three week suspension in the final round. Date of Birth: 2 June 2001 Height: 171cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 106 Goals MFC 2024: 36 Career Total: 161 Brownlow Medal Votes: 3 Melbourne Football Club: 4th Best & Fairest: 369 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Friday 15th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers took advantage of the beautiful sunshine to head down to Gosch's Paddock and witness the return of Clayton Oliver to club for his first session in the lead up to the 2025 season. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Clarry in the house!! Training: JVR, McVee, Windsor, Tholstrup, Woey, Brown, Petty, Adams, Chandler, Turner, Bowey, Seston, Kentfield, Laurie, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers, Jefferson, Hore, Howes, Verrall, AMW, Clarry Tom Campbell is here

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #7 Jack Viney

    The tough on baller won his second Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Trophy in a narrow battle with skipper Max Gawn and Alex Neal-Bullen and battled on manfully in the face of a number of injury niggles. Date of Birth: 13 April 1994 Height: 178cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 219 Goals MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 66 Brownlow Medal Votes: 8

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 3

    TRAINING: Wednesday 13th November 2024

    A couple of Demonland Trackwatchers braved the rain and headed down to Gosch's paddock to bring you their observations from the second day of Preseason training for the 1st to 4th Year players. DITCHA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I attended some of the training today. Richo spoke to me and said not to believe what is in the media, as we will good this year. Jefferson and Kentfield looked big and strong.  Petty was doing all the training. Adams looked like he was in rehab.  KE

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...