Jack Viney?

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Sorry all I know this has been done a number of times, but can someone give me the facts...

What year will he be up for draft? Is he a lock to come to Melbourne? Is he really a no.1 favourite?

If he is one of the best and we nab him for free in the middle of the compromised drafts, where good sides are getting their first picks in the early twenties, that will be one hell of a nice little bonus

Scully, Trengove, Jones, Moloney, Gysberts, McKenzie, Morton, Grimes, Blease, Sylvia and maybe this kid. That is is some seriously good stuff in the midfield mix. Surely nobody else comes close to that cattle gong forward.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Sorry all I know this has been done a number of times, but can someone give me the facts...

What year will he be up for draft? Is he a lock to come to Melbourne? Is he really a no.1 favourite?

If he is one of the best and we nab him for free in the middle of the compromised drafts, where good sides are getting their first picks in the early twenties, that will be one hell of a nice little bonus

Scully, Trengove, Jones, Moloney, Gysberts, McKenzie, Morton, Grimes, Blease, Sylvia and maybe this kid. That is is some seriously good stuff in the midfield mix. Surely nobody else comes close to that cattle gong forward.

This is A father/son your talking about. Todds boy.

[Summer Blease 0]

As I understand if he is good enough for another club to want to use a first round pick on him, being he's the son part in the father son equation, all we have to do is offer up our first round pick for him and he is ours.

If he is any good, WS will offer one of their first rounders for him which will force our hand. But I suppose the plus side of that is it doesnt matter if our first pick after 15- he comes to us.

This is all of course assuming he is worthy of a first round pick, I haven't seen him play. Plus, i'm not actualy sure if what I have said is correct, so we will need clarification from someone who actualy knows facts. Cue- someone else..

[Inner Demon 1]

The facts are that he's a teenager years from being a footballer and you need to try living in the present.

[Trengove_is_God 0]

Anyone know how tall he is?

Any footage of him playing anywhere?

Will he be in this years draft?

etc etc etc

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

This is A father/son your talking about. Todds boy.

you are picturing Moloney, Grimes and Viney holding the cup aren't you. If there is a more awesome thought I am unable to conceive of it.

[Daz's Dee's 113]

I cant really answer your questions but i'll try what i know.

He can go "father and Son" too melbourne (off course) but is certainly NO lock.

I believe he will be in the first GWS draft (not next draft but the one after)

I think "Number 1" is a bit far out but from what i have read he is up there in the mix as a potentiol top 10 pick?

The last thing i have read about him is he is playing in a SA league and tearing it up, i think it maybe the same league that Todd played for as a junior?

Be great too here from someone else in the know?

[RalphiusMaximus 6,111]

On Bigfooty they say he'll be in the 2012 draft. Can't find much more info than that. I also don't know if the father-son rule will trump the draft concessions of GWS. What happens if they name him as a 17yo that they want? Will we still be able to nominate him?

As for whether he's a lock to come to Melbourne, assuming we offer to FS him and GWS can't pinch him from under us, I believe it's up to him whether he accepts our offer or goes to the draft.

[Jonesy!!! 27]

http://messenger-news.whereilive.com.au/sport/story/roosters-sign-son-of-a-gun/

so he is 15 year old. so 3 years away which will be after the comprimised drafts and hopefully in our premiership window.. getting a gun with a mid teen pick is always handy

[Jonesy!!! 27]

also carlton have lodged papers to get the buckley kid that is carving up atm so that WS cant get him as one of their 17 year olds.. so i cant see why we wouldnt be able to do the same thing if he was good enough

[RalphiusMaximus 6,111]

http://messenger-news.whereilive.com.au/sport/story/roosters-sign-son-of-a-gun/

so he is 15 year old. so 3 years away which will be after the comprimised drafts and hopefully in our premiership window.. getting a gun with a mid teen pick is always handy

17 year-olds can be drafted. I don't know what the cutoff date is for them though. If he comes in after the concessions that may actually be a bad thing. If we FS him then it pretty much negates the impact of the concessions GWS have. If it's the year after then we'll be using a much higher pick.

[Grand New Flag 3,227]

Don't worry mate, he will become a demon.

I go to the football most weeks with his x-coach (a Melbourne supporter) who coached JV until he moved to Adelaide (with his old man moving to the crows), Jack is still very close with his x-coach and speaks to him regularly. His x-coach (who has coached a number of current AFL stars in their junior years) has told me he is the most talented kid he has ever seen, with all the skills and a monster engine. If there was a draft for his year today he would be number 1 pick.

The only problem is that Jack Viney is a massive Hawthorn supporter (due to Todds involvement with the club when he was growing up). I am told he wants to play for Hawthorn but has succumbed to the fact it is Melbourne or the luck of the draft. Apparently, Jack has already decided he will go to Melbourne rather going to the draft and is very excited about our prospects (from a conversation Melb v Ade).

I always thought he was in the 2011 draft but others on here assured me its 2012 draft. I must ask his x-coach. Whichever the case he will arrive as a readymade midfielder in the same vein as Trenners.

Lets hope he does not change his mind!

[Axis of Bob 11,912]

He's 1994. Which means it'll be the 2012 draft - until the AFL changed the age cutoff it would have been 2011 because his birthday is in April.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

hmmm interesting stuff, thanks all, well nearly all (inner demon)

[dazzledavey36 55,995]

jack trengove is facebook mates with him so hopefully he gets into his ear a bit

[Great_little_footy_team 8]

Hi all, long time reader of this site but never got round to making an account. Couldn't resist but making a post about Jack!

I went to school with him and played footy with him for 2 years before he moved to South Australia. I tell you, It wasn't alot of fun being in his side as he was the only bloke who got the ball. Kicked it out of the middle, ran forward and kicked the goal!

Although he's not that big the opposition were scared of him. Even some opposition parents wanted him to be banned, but I never saw him throw a punch. He was that hard. The most physical player I have seen at that age!

I can also confirm that he will be finishing school in 2012 and wants to go to the dees. Have asked him and said he'll be going to us under father-son.

He is ridiculously strong and was the school cross country champion. He is an absolute freak!

[e25 5]

As I understand if he is good enough for another club to want to use a first round pick on him, being he's the son part in the father son equation, all we have to do is offer up our first round pick for him and he is ours.

If he is any good, WS will offer one of their first rounders for him which will force our hand. But I suppose the plus side of that is it doesnt matter if our first pick after 15- he comes to us.

This is all of course assuming he is worthy of a first round pick, I haven't seen him play. Plus, i'm not actualy sure if what I have said is correct, so we will need clarification from someone who actualy knows facts. Cue- someone else..

Being in the 2012 draft he will be out of the clutches of GWS unless we decide not to take him and he lasts until their pick.

It's not a lay-down-misere that we get him if we want him -- Carlton talked Marc Murphy out of going the father-son route with Brisbane as he was eligible.

Fortunately Jack by all reports wants to stay in Melb and if we're lucky Hawthorn won't be near the bottom of the table (potential spanner).

He may want to work on a decent nickname though, cos I doubt he'll get called "Jack".

"SOT"..?

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Being in the 2012 draft he will be out of the clutches of GWS unless we decide not to take him and he lasts until their pick.

It's not a lay-down-misere that we get him if we want him -- Carlton talked Marc Murphy out of going the father-son route with Brisbane as he was eligible.

Fortunately Jack by all reports wants to stay in Melb and if we're lucky Hawthorn won't be near the bottom of the table (potential spanner).

He may want to work on a decent nickname though, cos I doubt he'll get called "Jack".

"SOT"..?

Todd II

[Guest Rojik of the Arctic]

Hi all, long time reader of this site but never got round to making an account. Couldn't resist but making a post about Jack!

I went to school with him and played footy with him for 2 years before he moved to South Australia. I tell you, It wasn't alot of fun being in his side as he was the only bloke who got the ball. Kicked it out of the middle, ran forward and kicked the goal!

Although he's not that big the opposition were scared of him. Even some opposition parents wanted him to be banned, but I never saw him throw a punch. He was that hard. The most physical player I have seen at that age!

I can also confirm that he will be finishing school in 2012 and wants to go to the dees. Have asked him and said he'll be going to us under father-son.

He is ridiculously strong and was the school cross country champion. He is an absolute freak!

Great first post. Looking forward to seeing (yet another) Jack Superstar playing for the Demons.

[Go the mighty Dees 0]

On Bigfooty they say he'll be in the 2012 draft. Can't find much more info than that. I also don't know if the father-son rule will trump the draft concessions of GWS. What happens if they name him as a 17yo that they want? Will we still be able to nominate him?

As for whether he's a lock to come to Melbourne, assuming we offer to FS him and GWS can't pinch him from under us, I believe it's up to him whether he accepts our offer or goes to the draft.

My understanding is father/son trumps all preferencial draft choice eg if jack trengove was the son of an ex magpie player with 50+ games then they would have first call on him as long as the kid agrees. That applies to GWS as well.

If the tiger with number one draft pick in 2012 pick him then we could trump them under father/son. Not a bad deal. I imagine he would be a bit like maloney. A great pick up. just think - Viney, scully, trengove, watts, grimes, morton, jurrah, petterd, frawley - all superb young guns. Very exciting.Who will be able to match us in an expanded competition?

[Tex 68]

My understanding is father/son trumps all preferencial draft choice eg if jack trengove was the son of an ex magpie player with 50+ games then they would have first call on him as long as the kid agrees. That applies to GWS as well.

If the tiger with number one draft pick in 2012 pick him then we could trump them under father/son. Not a bad deal. I imagine he would be a bit like maloney. A great pick up. just think - Viney, scully, trengove, watts, grimes, morton, jurrah, petterd, frawley - all superb young guns. Very exciting.Who will be able to match us in an expanded competition?

He's current S.A. Under 16 coach was quoted recently as saying he is the toughest and best player to come through their ranks during his time as coach.

Apparently he has all the toughness and aggression of his father, but with better skills and decision making.

He is definitely predicted to be ranked top 3, most probably number 1, though as stated above already, we can snag him under the father-son rule, by giving up most probably our first pick, which will be anywhere from pick 10 - 20 at a guess.

Bargin!!!

So pumped.

From the sounds of it he will come in and make an immediate impact in the 2013 season, just when we will be having a crack at the flag.

[dazzledavey36 55,995]

forgot to mention he did play school footy with jack and luke... like same team even tho he be about 4 years younger!

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

He is definitely predicted to be ranked top 3, most probably number 1, though as stated above already, we can snag him under the father-son rule, by giving up most probably our first pick, which will be anywhere from pick 10 - 20 at a guess.

Is he coming in the GWS draft year?

If so, it'd be more like 30ish...

[e25 5]

No, 2012 draft.

GWS get the 2011 draft.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Oh.

Ta E25.

He's going to be our Selwood. In the sense that the team will be settled and he'll be given the perfect initiation.