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  1. 59 minutes ago, Supermercado said:

    More importantly, what Pies players other than De Goey can we have a crack at pinching?

    Difficult. They are very good at getting deals done with their better players.

    Maynard and Moore perhaps? Cant realistically see either leaving but would give it a crack.

    Elliott would have been nice. At least we drove his price up.

  2. On 1/17/2020 at 3:41 PM, DeeSpencer said:

    If we go with 7 forwards then you don't need to rotate them through the midfield all that much. If you go 8 you're looking at more midfield rotations.

    At this stage I'd probably say 7 forwards.
    2 mid sizes: Fritsch, Melksham
    2 talls: T Mc, Weid/Petty/Brown
    1 x factor: Hunt, Jackson, Hannan

    Which then leaves:
    1 high half forward: ANB, Jones, C Wagner, Spargo, Chandler, Bedford
    1 crumber: Chandler, Pickett, Spargo, Bedford

    Until Pickett shows he's got the fitness and ability at AFL or VFL level (which could be as soon as the first preseason game) I think Chandler is ahead in the order. He's not rated highly enough on here.

    I'm interested to hear your opinion on Hannan.

    Personally I find that he either goes missing or simply isn't involved in the play often enough.

    Many posters on here have a high opinion of him but I am yet to see him consistently deliver across more than a few games in a row.

    I paid close attention to him when in attendance at the MCG in one game in 2018 to see what I was missing. He worked incredibly hard to try and work his opponent over but never seemed to get the better of him too often. The times that he did get free he was either in the wrong position, was ignored by the ball carrier (which was pretty frustrating when I could see how hard he had worked to get clear) or he got on the end of it and made something good happen.

    I still just don't know. I feel like he is still overrated on here.


  3. 1 hour ago, sue said:

    Or maybe we are pretty low on their priority list.  I doubt that most supporters and even members look at the MFC news much during the off-season and certainly wouldn't even know that X has missed training Y times.  So they wouldn't be waking up at 3am worrying about it.  Only the most rabid of us are on Demonland.  I'd be interested to know how many active readers/posters we have compared to total supportr base?

    Yes. You are 100% correct. I'm probably bitching because its been so slow on the news front recently and my need for a fix hasn't been met.

  4. 3 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Fair enough, I don't follow soccer.

    From the NBA there's plenty of cases of teams not disclosing info. The Nets right now are in a big circus with Kyrie Irving.


    The NFL maintains a pretty strict protocol for who is missing practice and could miss games but teams break it all the time. Usually if they get investigated and found guilty the punishment doesn't bother them.


    We've spent more time talking about this than warranted already. But I wonder what the club thinks... They surely know that we have Demonland reporters at training. (I always appreciate yours BTW)

    Do they just hold off telling us until they know exactly what the problem is.. knowing that we are aware that they aren't training? Or is it just a lack of staff in the media dept during the off season? (I'm not expecting a reply to this question)

  5. 1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Which big international sports? Does soccer do it? Because certainly the NBA and NFL have stronger policies but teams don't obey them at all.

    It's also preseason. Not games. Most international sports don't have such long preseasons and I doubt they have stringent policies on reporting in preseason.

    I worked in a shitty sales position for Sky television when I was on a working holiday visa in London 10 years ago.

    At times they would get some of us to work for Chelsea and Manchester United to [censored] there Sky channels. Which was actually pretty good as the targets were reasonable, commisions were good and both clubs gave us plenty of extras. Plus I could talk sports to strangers all day

    It was during the preseason and both clubs were excellent at relaying info to us sales staff to discuss with the fans. The info was on their websites and socials pretty quickly. Even if it was just "Lampard left the track early for scans"

    The fans are rabbid and pay a small fortune just to attend games. They get info.

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  6. 7 minutes ago, binman said:

    Good. And good on the club for getting the info out.

    A benefit of a solid block of preseason training is mitigating the impact  these sort of hiccups.

    It's 2020. We have speculated for a few days on May and I had to find out about Smith through a training report on here.

    It's not just us. All clubs are massively behind most big international Sports when reporting to the fans. It's not a big deal, but I certainly wouldn't be congratulating them.

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  7. On 1/12/2020 at 7:41 PM, old dee said:

    One reason. He probably caught a few defences out in 2019. They will be right on to him this year.

    It's one of the small games within a game that I am really looking forward to this year.

    Without a doubt his opponent this year will be aware of what he can do and find new ways of attempting to shut him out.

    I still remember Howe coping this when he played forward at times. His opponents figured out to simply make body contact during his run at the ball (illegally but too soft to call) preventing him from making a decent jump. Howe was a one trick pony and had no answer.

    Fritsch isn't a one trick pony. He is a natural forward. Lacks a bit of speed but has worked on his endurance. It will be great to see the battle each week. What will they do to stop him and how will he overcome their tactics? It's a great thing. Fritsch deserves the attention because he is that talented. But can he take it to the next level?

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  8. 3 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Interesting point. You may well be right, but with injuries the way they were, i am glad he stuck it out. 

    i think he will a great coach, why? Because he never shirked a tough game in his prime. He mostly instigated the toughness. 
    Jordan was always proactive 

    We need more of that to win the serious games

    We knew the third year was a gift when we got him for peanuts. As it turned out it was great as we lacked fit bodies and leadership. 

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  9. 6 hours ago, Engorged Onion said:

    What does finding 5% for Salem look like @BAMF - put it into some observable metrics for me :) 

    I had to really think about this.

    I'm not really the biggest stats guy, more of an eyeball assessment. It's difficult to say 'He needs to get 3 more effective kicks'.

    I've been vocal in the past about how Champion Data does the best job possible of applying ranking points to a game that is impossible to rank accurately. But in this context there is no other observable metric than can be applied correctly.

    Salem averaged 90 Supercoach points this year in total. He was on track for 95 before a severe drop off in the last few rounds. An increase of 5% on top of 95 is 99.75. 

    6 hours ago, Bay Riffin said:

    I disagree. Melksham TMac and Petracca have elite attributes in the forward line. Frisch showed plenty in the last 7-8 games. Thats4 players of real quality. Only Petracca looked to be in a position of fully fit and playing forward last year. 

    We have great competition for a second tall with weideman, petty, Jackson and Smith. 

    Our gaping hole is forward pocket but we have some talent in Kossi, chandler and Bedford coming through. 


    On paper if we got all those fit for round one we should do some damage. 

    I agree with you on most points here. So it must be the 'Great on paper' part you disagree with me on. 

    TMac - Agree.

    Melksham - Agree.

    Petracca - Agree, but he will hopefully be playing a lot more midfield this year.

    Fritsch - Agree. Really looking forward to seeing him play forward all year. I think it could be amazing.

    Weideman - is still only potential at this stage. Hopefully he is injury free and has the year we expected he was going to have last year.

    Petty - Promising but very raw. I was excited about what he showed forward last year, but he is gaining hype among supporters which isn't realised yet.

    Jackson, Smith are pure hope at this stage and on paper do not register.

    So really, we have one tall forward with runs on the board, some promosing second talls, some really good mid size players. No small.

    As I said, I hope by the end of the year we can say otherwise bit right now? Thats not great.

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  10. 4 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

    It's boring,  it's 2020, Watts, Hogan, Lumumba, Gysberts et al no longer play for club, let it go, they should be of no interest whatsoever 

    The club gets accused about being behind the times, nothing compared to some on here

    I am focused on new season, I just want a consistent competitive team, thst for me will be a success


    It's a message board devoted to one thing. You can't get upset when people talk about parts of that one thing that you don't like.Let people talk about what they want. You can still have your say without getting bogged down in the stuff you don't like.

    Back on topic:

    Finals is a pass for me. There are other things besides making finals or making top 4 that we can analyse as part of being successful.

    I would like to see some players make that next step. Brayshaw and Petracca are my main two that I have high hopes for.

    Salem to find that extra 5% and added consistency.

    Harmes could actually keep improving. I think most people think he has improved enough but there isn't any reason why he couldn't jump up to A grade talent.

    Viney to stay injury free and remind a few on here about how he can actually play. Fingers crossed.

    I'm also looking forward to seeing what Fritsch, Weid and Petty provide up front. On paper our forward line is not great. I would love to say the opposite by the end of the year.

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  11. 12 hours ago, dieter said:

    I know he retired in December 2016 citing Concussion Issues but I wonder does anyone have any inside info on whether there was more to the story.

    Well... For starters, he was still grieving the loss of Muhammad Ali.🤨

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  12. 8 hours ago, 58er said:

    Sorry BAMF I meant disregard Dazxles KK assessment as you indicated.

    I totally get where he is coming from though. If you could wave a magic wand and make them both 100% right now then Tomlinson would be ahead by a long way. KK has simply missed too much footy to over the past few years. He would be so out of touch.. Which is what his two games this year were. I don't rate Tomlinson that highly, but he will play his role and will hopefully be durable.

    I was bullish about getting KK. I've done a complete 180 now. I think he is done. I don't think we will ever see him play again and i'm not sure if I want him to. I cringe when I think of him getting hit in the head again. I nearly felt this way about Brayshaw too, so fingers crossed that i'm wrong and that he makes it back.

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  13. 4 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    KK isn't much suited to a wing. In fact, he plays his best football when at half back.

    First game against Geelong this year he played the whole game on the wing for a terrible return of 5 disposals for the game. Next week against Essendon he was just as poor. 

    Tomlinson is miles ahead of KK in terms of playing that suitable wing role.

    My post was looking at if KK had never been injured in the first place and what each player's ceilings would be in the role.

    His games for us this year are pretty much null and void after how much football he missed. He really shouldn't have been in the team in the first place imo.

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  14. KK would have had a much better career than Tomlinson if he never had the injury concerns.

    No offence to Tomlinson, but KK is much better suited to a wing. We got Tomlinson because he is a solid best 22 option who is versatile and doesn't have injuries (Until he got to us and got injured immediately). He has shown he can play the wing position and can do it better than the majority of our list.

    Its a funny question really... How good would Trengove been without the foot injury? How good would the Ox have been without the knee reconstructions? Would Luke Molan be considered a bust if he never got injured?

    If my grandmother had wheels she would be a bicycle.

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  15. Happy to see these 2 along with Sparrow, Jordan, Bedford and Chandler develop at Casey this year. There will likely be a few opportunities but I hope they are few and far between.

    Hoping that Jackson and Pickett are the ones to push there way into the team.

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  16. 12 hours ago, JakovichScissorKick said:



    We delisted Pedo, Bull Smith and Keilty over the past 2 years. Do you think targeting Brown has anything to do with Weid? Or maybe we realised we had zero depth when both McDonald and Weid were injured?

    I can see all three getting a game when fit just like Smith and Pedo did at stages over the past few years. 

    Back to the video. Interesting to see we were keen on Robertson and would have taken higher than he was taken if possible. I wonder why so many others over looked him.

    I'm also looking forward to part 2. I really enjoyed watching other clubs vids last year. Great insights.


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  17. 14 hours ago, JakovichScissorKick said:


    You think that because our recruitment team hope a 17 year old kid who has been injured most of the year slides to our third pick that we have given up on Weid? 

    And you think other people's posts are stupid? FMD.

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