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  1. 8 minutes ago, Skuit said:

    The whole first sentence would be even more befitting for our preseasons on Demonland; '. . . it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way – in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.”



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  2. 14 hours ago, MikeAlphaTango said:

    Grundy the most comparable player, played 7 games in his debut year. 

    Pre-season games will give us a good indication whether he's going to be pushing for an early debut.

    I think you have written off Pruess too early, from training reports he appears to have slimmed down remarkably and coaches have him working on his forward craft. 

    I'm not sure I ever thought I would ever see the word "craft" attributed to a player the size of Preuss. It just seems wrong.

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  3. I'm truly grateful for all the reports from our track watchers at this time of year. But, let's face it. Summer is boring. So, we need diversions. I'd like to ask Demonlanders, which famous first line best sums up your feelings about the MFC. I've proposed three below, but feel free to add your own from any written work whether it's a book, play, song, etc. My top three, in order, are:

    "The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there." (from "The Go-Between", by LP Hartley)

    "Happy families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way." (from "Anna Karenina" by Leo Tolstoy)

    "Now is the winter of our discontent." (from Richard III, by William Shakespeare).

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  4. 9 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

    Goschs is quite soft it is sand based

    Maybe precautionary, seen him train in boots 

    I preface this by saying I have no medical training, but I would have thought boots would be helpful rather than harmful. I would have thought that without stops, Viney would have to push his feet harder into the surface to stop from slipping and to get the grip necessary to push off in whichever direction he wants to go.


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  5. 7 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    From today's Guardian..

    A society dedicated to preserving the “much-abused” apostrophe is to be shut down as its chairman said “ignorance and laziness” had won.


    John Richards, who worked in journalism for much of his career, started the Apostrophe Protection Society in 2001 after he retired.

    Now 96, Richards is calling time on the society, which lists the three simple rules for correct use of the punctuation mark.

    “We, and our many supporters worldwide, have done our best but the ignorance and laziness present in modern times have won!”


    I guess we should just be grateful that the Guardian's link didn't have an apostrophe in the middle word of "admits-its-defeat".

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  6. 3 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    think of the turf OD.. and of course they'd need to finish 30  minutes before the start of the senior game to allow for .... (not sure what)

    Auskick. They won't have enough time with a 10 minute half-time break for the Auskickers to have their fun. 

  7. 2 hours ago, Uncle Fester said:

    A bit of a random topic, but as I get older I really like this time of year. You see these kids, just out of school, and all elbows and knee caps, suddenly thrust into the limelight, cameras thrust in their faces, and they ummm and uhhh as they are asked a million and one questions (and you can see them thinking 'Can't I just say "I like footy?').

    Fast forward ten years from now and those teenagers are now hardened warriors. They are used to playing in front of thousands of people. They are big and strong, and have mixed it with the toughest the game has to offer. And interviews... they take it in their stride as if having a news crew following you into work is what happens to everyone.

    It's fun to sometimes remind myself that the tough guy just won a big game off his own boot was, not that long ago, a nervous teenager that had no idea what life had in store for him.

    Great post. We should also remember that across the competition not all the 18 year olds who have just been drafted will make it to become hardened warriors in 10 years time. Many will find the dream extinguished in a very short time. Let's hope that our boys make it, but if they don't, that they can be happy that they gave it a red hot go. 

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  8. 55 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    I have it an A.

    Recruiting Rivers who I rated a top 25 pick was a bonus. 

    The beauty about this draft compared to last year is all 3 are all ready to go and could all play round 1. We knew last year that the likes of Bedford, Jordon and Neita were all going to be playing VFL all year for development.

    The way I look at the Jackson pick is that we are bring him in as a key forward more then anything. Watching his highlights the way he flies and clunks his marks reminds me a lot of Tom Lynch from Richmond. A 200cm key forward alongside Weideman and McDonald will give our forward line a whole new dynamic. Jackson coming in allows McDonald to play that 3rd roaming tall which he is best suited to.

    I expect Weideman to fill out more and play the stay at home forward alongside Jackson.

    Smart and screwed recruitment by Jason Taylor and his team.

    I'll assume you meant "shrewd", otherwise I'm dreadfully confused.

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  9. 1 hour ago, TRIGON said:

    The game wouldn't seem so long on the tele if they got rid of Brian Taylor.

    You could just say: "The game wouldn't seem so long on the tele if they got rid of [insert name here]". I expect that every caller and commentator would get a mention from someone on Demonland. For example, I'd say:

    The game wouldn't seem so long on the tele if they got rid of Wayne Carey. 

    Who's next?

  10. 3 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    okay I'll play

    Pies v Tigers 2019 first round.

    Pies played a wonderful tactical game that beat Richmond who were at relative full strength.

    Cannot remember Goodwin trying anything different all season.

    I can appreciate there might be frustration at the lack of initiative within individual games. But I'm more interested in Goodwin developing a plan to win a Premiership which may mean sticking to a single plan until the players deliver it every time. Changing plans for individual games might not necessarily be in the longer term interest of a club trying to be Premiers.

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  11. 9 minutes ago, Cam Schwab's Whiteboard said:

    Yes, but not the way in which it might appear here.
    Knowing the impact of injuries and whatnot, the abject failure of refusing to adjust until it was way too late (and even then only minimally) is what's inexcusable for me. 

    What sort of adjustment were you looking for?

  12. 12 hours ago, monoccular said:

    Other than having to put up with much less total half time  drivel on 7 what does this achieve?  
    I do think 20 minutes is far too long but how about phasing it in to 15 for starters?

    As has been mentioned, and I know it is very early pre preseason, but plans are made and fitness regimens commenced based on what has been happening forever .

    Still, if there is, for a welcome change, only one unnecessary rule change over this inter seasonal break then I suppose we should be grateful.


    That may be the plan all along. Float the idea of the extreme (10 minutes) but after the anticipated outrage then agree to compromise at 15 minutes. Personally, I'd be happy with a 15 minute halftime break. But I'd also want some other time saving changes, such as Lucifer mentioned. In addition to getting rid of the ruck nomination rule which clearly delays ball-ups and throw-ins, I'd like to see the time after a goal restricted more. It's been allowed to creep out over the last couple of years so there's an ad plus time for a replay. That's unnecessary.

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  13. 1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Yep. Those big stones do not move. I wasn’t going that fast either, changed down a gear and must have slid the back wheel into a Stone. I heard a thud and over she went...never forget those moments. 
    The night before Darren Cuthbertson kicked 9 out at Waverley. 

    I made it to the game, bruised and battered!!!

    For a moment there I thought you were a time traveller. I read "the night before" meaning that Cuthbertson had kicked his 9 before your accident rather than the reverse.

    Of course, the even less believable point is that a Melbourne player kicked 9 goals in a single match.

  14. 57 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

    This draft period has been great, with pick trading, intrigue, bidding, and being linked with unconventional players whose selection will annoy large parts of the Demonland population.


    But there's only one thing that I'm disappointed about, and that's Gold Coast getting pick 2 instead of us .....

    .... because this place would have been like the apocalypse if we had have selected Jackson and passed on Anderson! 

    I assume it's purely hypothetical, but I wonder what we would do in the unlikely event that the Gold Coast doesn't select as expected for picks 1 and 2? Would we still stick with Jackson?

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  15. 8 hours ago, leucopogon said:

    Go home factor is impossible to ignore. It's going to be a big risk taking Jackson. I think he'll be good but Perth is just so different to Melbourne. Hope the club has interviewed the bejeesus out of him to make sure he's not a flight risk.

    I don't particularly like comparing players with chattels and I hope he doesn't want to leave, but if he's a good player and wants to go home, he's still a valuable asset. It's not like he would go home leaving us with nothing in return.

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  16. 14 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

    Jesus, memory lane, I have the advantage, being born in Liverpool and brought up by Liverpudlian parents

    First thing you are taught, boomer or not, is not to give a flying [censored] what anyone thinks of you

    As for the Boom by the players, think that is Neal Bullen again to blame for that     and no training and official function, only time I interact with players

    So for you music lovers

    Have seen in no particular order

    Hendrix at the Isle of Wught

    Beefheart at 4.00am in the morning 

    Pink Floyd doing Dark Side of the Moon including aircraft coming over heads of audience and crashing on stage

    First Australian gig Angels at Bondi Lifesavers

    First Melbourne gig, Rose Tattoo, Pete Wells version, Bombay Rock

    First Aussie Rules game, some Aussie friend, decided as I was used to English soccer crowds, took me to Vic Park to see Collingwood v Carlton in 1978, an eye opener to say the least😀😁😂😃


    I'm hanging out for part 2 to this story. How, when and why did you become a Demon supporter? Most immigrants I know seem to end up supporting one of the two teams they saw in their very first match. But not you. We know you're a different cat (said with appropriate reverence), but the Saty story isn't complete without this additional bit of info.

  17. Of course, there's another way to look at this. I believe you could argue (because of other factors, such as player development, etc) that there's sufficient randomness in the process for such a small selection (ie, picks 1 to 15) that over time, these figures should "even out". To make that happen the picks with lowest results will inevitably have to succeed more than those that already have. So, clubs might be wise to select players with picks which have been least successful.

    Maybe that's why we've got a new data analyst. 

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  18. On 11/21/2019 at 1:11 PM, ProDee said:

    Some thoughts...

    If Melbourne rate Jackson over Green then why would they bid on Green and potentially lose Jackson to the Giants, who it's believed won't match the bid ?   You may not agree with Taylor and co's player rankings, but if they want Jackson they can't bid on Green.  It's just common sense.

    Others are worried by Jackson's height.  He's 18 years old and two months.  He plays virtually all of next year as an 18 year old (Sept. 21).  Is it unlikely he grows another 2-3cm before he's finished ?

    Someone questioned his leaping ability.

    And he's got a great leap. He can really get over the top of them (opponents)... Peter Sumich

    From another - With a strong leap, competitive instincts, an ability to mark and also find the ball around the ground...  

    Others are saying he's not worth pick 3.  Pick 8 maybe, but not pick 3.  My answer to that is that the Giants will take him at pick 4.  How can he not be worth pick 3 if shrewd recruiters like the Giants will take him at pick 4 and overlook their academy young gun Green with Jackson as their preference ?  If he's worth pick 4 in the view of the Giants why isn't he worth pick 3 ?  Once again, let's talk common sense.

    I'm not fussed if you don't want Jackson and I'm not trying to ''convince'' anyone as to his merits, but some of the stuff being said doesn't make sense. 

    Apologies if this has already been covered either in this thread or elsewhere, but as part of the general testing that potential draftees go through either generically or specifically by individual clubs, is there any testing looking at whether players are likely to grow taller? Is there even a reliable (or semi-reliable) test to do so? Is it possible the club knows that Jackson is still growing?

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