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  1. 6 hours ago, Pates said:

    Very good write up, I think it sums up where things are at, what needs to change, and asked important questions. Main question comes at the end though, what was the abberation? 2018 or 2019?

    My thoughts (simply) are that we overachieved in 2018 and quite clearly underachieved in 2019. We need things to click for us, and if we get an injury run like what the Tigers got in 2017 I think we can do some serious damage.

    The question I'm about to ask may seem esoteric but is not intended to be. It's a genuine question: Can a team "overachieve"? A team is made up of inividuals each with a maximum potenial (or achievable level of performance). The coach's job is to convert those talents into a coherent peformance. If the players don't perform to their best or if the coach fails to maximise that potential, the team will not do as well as it might. That is, it underachieves. But if every players does his best and the coach does his job, hasn't the team shown what is achievable. In other words, and in a less esoteric expression, wasn't 2018 an example of what can be achieved, rather than an "overachievement"?   

    I accept there are differences between the 2018 team and the 2020 team. Some players have retired or otherwise left the club. Some players may be past their peak while others are just moving into their prime. Essentially, though, it's the same team. I refuse to accept the we "overachieved" in 2018. Rather we showed what was possible and what should be possible again in 2020. 

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  2. 1 minute ago, Neil Crompton said:

    I would have thought that if we had any notion of signing him up, he should be going to Maroochydore. One of the great aspects of the Qld training camp is the bonding that occurs - and IMV would be worth going for that alone.

    In addition, wouldn't all the medical staff (docs, physios, etc) also be at the camp? If so, his recovery may be better managed if he's where the support staff are.

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  3. 14 hours ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

    This was never going to a straight line to playing. You could keep him training and have a punt at him mid year if he gets going but then anyone else would get a shot at him first. It’s a base payment spend with our last spot on list for a player who pre injuries was on track to be a top 10 player in the league. If it is minor and would still see potential for him playing back half of the year then as long as his application and attitude has been top notch  I would take the punt on him over an untried kid with a low likelihood of success and definitely unlikely to get any shot in 2020. 

    Is there anything stopping another club with a free list spot (if there are any) offering Bennell a contract now? I'm not suggesting that there is one out there ready to pounce. I'm just curious about how the sysem works. 


  4. 1 minute ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Match sim. Blues v Greens with 2 players in pink bibs going both ways (Sparrow and Hunt). Seems roughly probables v possibles

    Lever, Jetta, Harmes, Salem, Hore

    Gawn, Oliver, Viney, Langdon, Petracca, Gus

    T Mc, Weid, Fritsch, Jackson, Kossie 

    Harmes from half back hits Viney in the corridor who snaps on his right to keep it moving to Petracca. Trac darts it up the corridor to Pickett who dishes off to Jackson running inside 50 for the open goal. 

    First bit of this was messy but the blues are finding their rhythm. R

    Most exciting part about this was reading Viney was kicking on his right!

    (Great reporting, by the way)

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  5. 9 hours ago, McQueen said:

    Did some research and it’s quite complicated by the sounds of it. 
    Not ‘technically’ a concussion from a brain injury but all the similarities in symptoms. 

    Not sure if you realise that facts aren't welcome on social networks in this post-truth world. Consider yourself admonished.

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  6. 30 minutes ago, deanox said:

    I swear this is the best summary of Weid I've read. 

    Ask the evidence I've seen points to "it should click at some point", and reports from inside the club suggest attitude and application are correct. That doesn't mean he will make it, but I haven't seen anyone articulate why they think he won't make it with evidence apart from "doesn't do enough".

    My fingers are firmly crossed. 

    Past performance is the evidence.

    I hope I'm wrong, but if 'Weideman' was a TV program, it would have been cancelled because of poor ratings. I accept that footballers, like TV shows, sometimes need more time to prove their worth. And like some TV shows, after poor starts they eventually fire. I hope Weideman is like one of those.

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  7. 1 hour ago, ManDee said:

    What does this mean? Do you understand what conservative means?

    I think it means people who object to apostrophes being used when they're not needed, particularly when used to pluralise words such as tattoo and mantra.

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  8. And on a slight tangent, if I recall correctly, one year under Bailey I believe we had only three players on the list who had previously been on the list of another AFL club. Brent Moloney would have been one; I can't recall the others. I suspect Bailey had the idea that a homegrown list is better than a Foreign Legion.


  9. Most derailed thread. Ever.

    Just to get back on topic, it seems training was not "postponed" at all. Rather it was moved indoors. And away from Saty's prying camera, they were prepared to do some competitive work with "shirts on" versus "shirts off". 

    I'm tipping if the club announces a Gosch's paddock training day with half the team with their shirts off, there'll be a larger crowd of spectators in attendance than normal.

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  10. 25 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Big Carl not in the side?

    Sorry but that is not on

    I'm curious...would you play White and Ditterich in the same side or not play White? If you play both, would you do so as two ruckmen or have one play in a different position?

    For what it's worth, when they played with us, I think White was the better ruckman but could not play any other position. I can't recall Ditterich playing anywhere with us other than as a ruckman. I would only pick one ruckman, so I would choose White. Peter Moore can provide the back-up.


  11. 5 minutes ago, old dee said:

    Today I received emails from three different business' ( eg the local real estate agent ) informing me of them running appeals and I should give generously.

    Now I acknowledge that these people have their heart in the  right place but I have to wonder how and where the funds will be used. It seems like now every business has to have an appeal so as not to be seen as  uncaring. Yesterday I read that the $50 million people donated to the actress woman's appeal can only be used for the NSW rural fire mob. I am fairly confident that the majority of donors were unaware of this when they donated. 

    IMO there is going to be a lot of money wasted by perhaps good intentioned people who after all are ameteurs in this field. 

    And then there's scum. Please be careful everyone.

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  12. 18 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    it has second and third class as well. Up front on the middle level is the first class seating area. Best river views in the world for a few dollars. Mind you finding out the boat schedule and buying tickets is an artform.

    Self conducted tours of the engine room are a must and the giant paddles are shielded by a bit of chickenwire.

    No alcohol I'm afraid.

    I hope that also applies to the crew.

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  13. I was always confused by Jesse Hogan's set shot kicking action. It always looked to me that he was holding the ball as if to kick it on his left (ie, non-preferred) foot. Nevertheless, it seemed to work (mostly) for him. It just made me more nervous than necessary each time he was running in to kick.

    And a question for those who understand the mechanics of kicking. Why is it that natural left-foot kickers invariably seem worse on their right foot than right-footers are on their left?


  14. 50 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    This is the famous Rocket steamer that has plied the lower reaches of the rivers of Bangladesh since around 1880.

    First class cabin is around ten dollars for a couple of days. Bangladesh makes India look orderly but it's a great place

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    I wonder whether it's safer to train outdoors in Melbourne today or travel on that boat (first class or not)!

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  15. 43 minutes ago, Optimus D said:

    Did not see Crosswell play for the Red and Blue Mazer. Certainly has an impressive resume and assume that he played as a half forward for us. Did he have much of an impact with his time at the Dees?

    I like the concept. I'd like it even more if we dreamt of what might have been if each of the players mentioned played their best football with us. If that were the case, Crosswell would be a certain starter. Conversely, if Crosswell isn't good enough to get a game based on his performance with us, I'm not sure Templeton is either.


  16. I would have thought there is plenty clubs can do as part of their pre-season which doesn't involve outdoor activity. It could be indoor gym or swimming, those lectures (for want of a better term) explaining the game plan that players always seem to complain about or simply some fun activities which help bonding such as playing table tennis. I believe it's an unnecessary risk to pursue outdoor training before the smoke clears.


  17. 9 minutes ago, Baghdad Bob said:

    I got caught in traffic on the way to the ground and thought I'd miss a bit but as It's Time has said it was a later than normal start at around 9.30.

    As usual over to the rehab group and a quick check as to who isn't there.  Jones, Tomlinson, Baker and Spargo the four in rehab with Jones, Tomlinson and Spargo looking to be more advanced.  Jones hasn't changed his training for about 4 or 5 sessions now and watching him it's impossible to tell what's wrong.  Tomlinson was running very strongly as was Spargo so I'm surprised to hear Spargo is 3 to 4 away but that could be to do with agility on his ankle.  There were many runs around the outer side of the ground by these three and they went for a good 2 hours before heading in.  During that time they did a fair bit of kicking and a small bit of  (sort of) circle work without any signs of a problem.

    Baker is a little behind by the look of things but seemed relaxed and raring to go.  About half way through the session Bennell turned up and did his warm ups and then some runs around the outer side of the ground.  No sign of any discomfort but he's only going at half pace.  Again nothing much has changed and it looks like they are playing the long game with him.  Once he had finished his running program he started some casual goal kicking practice.  Around the corner, tight ankle, snaps, set shots you name it he did it and while I was watching he missed two out of about 20.  Unbelievable.

    The no shows were Hannan, KK, Neita, AVB, May and Smith.  Of that lot AVB is a usual "misser" of training and we know about the issues of the others bar May.  Missing Hannan was disappointing but it could just be management.  Wednesday will tell.

    It's Time has done a great job describing training.  There was stoppage work, forward entry work built around match sims as well as specialist crumbing work, high marking practice, handball drills and some gut running.  I liked it in one match sim where Trac decided to tackle Jackson and while on the ground pushed his head into the ground and then wouldn't let him get up. But Jackson got the better of him and had Trac on the ground at the end of the wrestle with lots of smiles and laughs between the two.  Trac really does keep things fun and involves everyone.  Trac provided the highlight for me in one passage where he was surrounded by a pack of players and dodged and weaved his way out of the pack.  The other highlight was Brown who really did well today.  Marked well and kicked very well which stood out on a day where skills were down and mistakes were made.  I suppose it was their first hitout in a month or so but I'm expecting better later.

    Pickett did some really nice things, not so much spectacular but just really neat skills and Jackson continues to impress with his ability to be in general play once his ruck work is done.  Harmes, Oliver and Viney were all busy and Melk and Fritter did well up forward.

    I left at about 11.45 when things looked like they were closing down and the smoke was getting pretty bad.  It was a pretty solid session with another to come on Wednesday.

    I wonder what impact, if any, the smoke has had on the training program? Has the club modified the program? Are players who might be more susceptible to asthma given lighter loads, etc? As a professional organisation I would expect the club to have consulted with its medical team on how to handle these conditions. 

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