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  1. We are in the premiership window. Losing Hogan is bad. Hogan is better than lever and Melbourne was in a much better position than adalaide (contracted vs uncontracted) I think minimum is neale compensation, plus their first and brayshaw with seconds going back the other way. Trading is "player worth" plus what the team can pay. Hogan is worth more than picks 4 and 5 and freo can pay if they want him. For those arguing differently one year of hogan may be the difference between a premership or not. And if he stays for one year he could stsay for more. Anyway i hope we keep him
  2. You are all wrong about ANB. He has the capacity to be elite. He is only 22 improving every year. More importantly he has elite vision. He has the ability to spot the short option. Currently his execution lets him down but he will tidy that up and become elite assist player
  3. I think he will mature into a top 50 in the league player. AkA Jones who improved every year. He has better vision and twenty metre execution than everyone on our list excluding possibly Petracca (by foot). He is already a very good player and very underrated on these boards in a similar manner to Jones early
  4. Best to worst trades Weller for pick 2 Gibbs for two first rounders Cameron for 12 Old man for 2nd round pick Lever for two firsts Smith for 11 with change back Saad Watts Stringer. I think it is hard to argue with this order. Our trade value on Lever was about right. All the contracted players cost more (excluding smelly ones... smith has issues with ankle) and Lever was the only good uncontracted one. In regards to leverage blah blah blah... I am not sure Melbourne had any. Lever would never have got to us in ND for pick 10. St Kilda or Collingwood would have grabbed him.
  5. I hope this is not Goodwin being a malthouse. He disliked Betts, Garlett and Robinson and look how that worked out for Carlton.
  6. Lever deal was not over. Lever is a top 5 pick in all the recent drafts. If he went into the national draft we had North melbourne, carlton, st kilda, collingwood all ahead of us at pick 10 and given free agent speculation at least two of those clubs with more salary space than us Lever was never getting to us via the draft and both Melbourne/Adelaide knew it. Picks 10 & 6 to 14 next year looks reasonable. Given exposed form I rate Lever as being worth at least pick 4. No team would trade pick 4 for two teen picks. We got a good deal
  7. Skuit supporters matter just as much as members. The number of members drives the value of sponsorship dollars. Also if you using a population of 24 million you need to include rugby in your numbers. Better population figure is vic, sa, tas and WA. Which is more like 10 to 12 million.,. So 1 in 10 are members. If out of the 100,000 coming to Melbourne we got 5 k members and 30k supports that adds up. There is also untapped conversion from the last five years of migrants. So 500k people is starting pool and if you got 20k members and 200k supporters from that... if you did everything right
  8. I do not post often, but this is a good idea. Those attacking should have a long hard think and then apologise. Organic growth is slow as we have such a small starting base Supporters of other clubs - no chance Australians rarely switch clubs kids - some possibility but over half goes for parents club.. then sucess gets another quarter then you can fight over the rest. And every club is already fighting, Watts, Gawn and Viney can only go to so many schools Outside of Melbourne - well there are lots of people but it is hard work and they can not attend footy anyway.... so .... I can't see the business case Migrants to Melbourne is a big pot. I think there are 100,000 plus per year. Most do not have an existing club and the Melbourne brand gives us an advantage. It is logical to follow the team with the city's name. Having programs to capture these people and get a large percentage is the way forward. I personally love the idea of MFC giving guided free tours of the MCG to Indian students (mainly cricket focused) and then giving them tickets to the football game plus some language appropriate pamphlets.. plus some volunteer Indian actual Melbourne supports to cheer with them at the game I can see it working. You could even dedicate a section of the ground to it. the other point I would make with the marketing background you should be seeing if you can get on the board
  9. This analysis is ridiculous. we got 10th last year We have the number 1 ruck. I rate our forwards higher than our mids. I also rate our defenders higher than our mids ( through this is closer) I would have guessed our mids would have been bottom 5/6 last year Situation was even worse in 2015 and I would have rated our mids bottom 2. With two years folding into the analysis I would say champion data is reasonable what it does not capture is age profile. Anyone under 25 will probable improve anyone over 30 has a 25% chance of the wheels falling off. Our age profile in the midfield is pretty good and that will drive improvement. for those concerned about Vineys rating his 2015 was pretty average and that is 50% of his ranking
  10. This thread needs to be book marked Jodie is a solid afl c grade footballer. He would easily get a game in most/ all teams and he is improving He will be better this year than last and will keep getting better B grade this year to be considered A grade by 2015 Bad kick/ val player. Blah. Listen to yourselves. He adds a lot to our team
  11. There is also an article on north melbourne's mis-handling of a concussion investigation. I would read these articles as an attempt by the afl to distract from the Tippett afair.
  12. I usually rate your posts but you being revisionary here. No one was arguing that he had output above a c level. the debate was more around whether he would ever be better than a b and most argued that a lack of awareness and bad decision making meant he would never get better.
  13. Ridiculous comments on this thread. All these heroes who think they know more than the club and then will flame anyone who disagrees. Do we know how much jordie is being paid? How many people bagging jordie bagged jones three years ago. Hint all of you ( as there were only about three people defending him.) How many people can comment on jamar injuries? How many can comment on his contribution to training? How many of you same fools would have been screaming If he left to go to another club. Hint you will all claim that you would be happy to see him go but everyone knows how you would have been keyboard warriors if he had of left Before mindlessly bagging engage your brain
  14. That list tells us our recruiters did a pretty good job If taking the best of the five plus players after our picks does not deliver a premiership team then we were sort of doomed from the start
  15. This is the only potential useful suggestion made on the whole jack viney thing and everyone seems to slag it off. What gives ? My thoughts are If JV is pick 1 to 3 then he goes this year If JV is pick 8+ then he goes this year. There is no way GWS or GC will risk nominating The only difficulty is if JV is rated 3-7. If he is in this range and GWS or GC play funny buggers then he goes interstate and we get a two top three picks when we should have only got one but we lose JV If he is in this range then not nominating for a year might be a win for jack. He can be guaranteed to play for melb and if some richer melb supporters steps in then he won't be out of pocket. Problem solved. However as I have said above if he is worth pick three then pay it. If he is not then melb should offer jack options and this might be one of then. ( mind you we better have a strong legal position or else AFL won't stand for it) I
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