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  1. Yes it's a great topic and one that I hope the Dees are discussing with both Jesse and his management. Clearly if Jesse wants to stay, then we should make every effort to keep him, but if there's a doubt and he has real interest in heading home, then it's worth considering and taking a rational path and plan. Jesse is a huge talent (arguably our most natural talent since Allen Jakovich), yet he is also our biggest off-field problem and whilst footy clubs cover up indiscretions of stars, they can prove costly to team harmony because having one rule for one player and a different set of rules for others can create divisions - just look at Gary Ablett's impact at Geelong this year. The other factor to consider is that Freo, as Kingy mentions, has a pick that would go some way to meet our requirements - pick 6 or 7. personally I reckon we would want their 2019 second round pick as well of we went down that path. With their pick 6 or 7 we would most likely have the potential to draft whichever King brother remains available or if we wanted to make a play for Jack Billings, it would give us the ammunition to get that deal done - I'd want the Saints second rounder for 2019 in return for Billings and our acquired pick 6 or 7 though. Ultimately the club has to weigh it up and insiders would have the biggest idea of Jesse's wish to stay in Melbourne. If I was on the Dees admin I'd be having a serious off-the-record chat with Harmsey about it.
  2. The Tyson one where he was carried over the line could also have been called a high tackle - ultimately a correct no-call. He got a bit lucky early with a free kick 15m out from goal when he ducked into a tackle - did you mean that one?
  3. I actually reckon we have all but three teams covered. Richmond at night - thankfully if we play them it's more than likely a day game on the last Saturday in Sept. Collingwood - their pace still worries me and they will get Treloar back so midfield will be tough. Unless they beat WC, then we won't play them though. West Coast in Perth - sadly barring upsets we will be playing them over there again in preliminary final and by then Kennedy and Darling will be back. I still like our chances, but reckon the umps will step up late in the final term and give Rioli a couple of cheapies in front of goal.
  4. This thread is virtually not required this week. There will be no axings - we just won our first final and have just over two weeks before the real stuff. There will be no restings - we have a week off coming anyway. Hibberd has already been risked - he came back on yesterday - and unless he pulls up sore after the flight then he will be playing. Vanders may miss a week - for his elbow on Rioli - but more than likely cops a fine. If he is to miss, then JKH or Wags will replace him. O-Mac is fine - he fell on him, he didn't sling. Joel Smith would have come in had we lost, but we will now have the luxury of not rushing him back until week one of the finals. Ditto Jack Viney.
  5. 6 Gawn - What a presence. You knew he was on from first bounce. 5 Harmes - Unbelievable game and I am going to credit Saty for picking him out at training to me midway through his first year at club and saying he had potential. Saty does say that about almost every Dee he sees, but I have loved the way he plays since his first game and now he's getting the accolades. 4 Melky - Hands up if you feel confident when he gets it. I certainly do and those Essendon fans who used to tell me he was a turnover king are now eating their words. 3 Brayshaw - In everything and I would loved to know how much ground he covered. The main reason why we are now a top-4 team and why we will meet WC in the preliminary final in four weeks time. 2 Salem - How controlled down back was he again. Love him. 1 Hannan/Kent - Both grabbed their chance and played games that will see them named in our first finals side since 2006. Confident with kicks and tackled like madmen.
  6. Popped in at training for just over an hour and nice to see Joel Smith back training - albeit just with Crossy. Saw his scar and the medicos appear to have done a great job. He is setting himself for a return next week v GWS and imagine he will be sporting more padding than his dad used to don. Hope he doesn't rush back - he's way too important if we make finals. Jetta also was initially in rehab group but after about 45mins joined the main group, so he'll be right to play. Baker the only other rehab player and he was just doing laps - he reckons the VFL prelim is his target. Melky and Hibberd both looked fit and eager. Unless they hurt themselves in final bit of training they will be playing. Pedo training with backs, Weid training with forwards. As to side, I will be surprised if there is not four changes. Obviously, Hunt and Hogan are out and Spargo needs to reboot in VFL, while the experiment with Pedo as intercepter did not work and Hibbo will be back to play that role this week and with the Eagles down to two tall forwards - Vardy and Darling - it's hard to justify having three tall backs. That means it's a question of whether Pedo replaces Hoges as our second tall forward, or whether Weid gets the job. I'm loving all the rhetoric on other threads, but as I've said before, Weid now has the agility to play AFL, he just needs the confidence and the rule changes next year will help him. Ultimately he has to play because why spend the whole week training Pedo as a backman if you want him to play as a forward. So Melky in for Spargo, Weid in for Hoges, Hibberd in for Pedo and Fritsch sent to defensive rotations for Hunt, leaving one more spot to be filled by either Kent, Hannan or Bugg. I haven't got a clue which one, but Buggy looked more fired up at training than I've seen him for a while.
  7. Lewis is a smart player who brings plenty to the table with his clever disposal and he's been a huge factor in our rise up the charts (percentage wise at least). But as we have all noticed all year he has been found out for pace and is now up there with the slowest players in the league when it comes to sprinting for the ball - Hodge and Selwood are up there too. He clearly is needed for this season - it's too late to be making massive changes to our back seven and once we make finals he will be even more important. But clearly there are some serious talks to be had once the season is completed. But please give it a rest on the anti-Lewis stuff until post-season. He deserves his last hurrah this season.
  8. Can I restate what I said several weeks ago when I watched Weid at training. The kid is no longer a kid - he looks the part. Weed now has some agility, he no longer has a David Neitz turning circle. He also has lateral vision. When I went down to training I thought, jeez, is Maynard back from injury, but no it was Weid - he now moves like a midfielder. Sure he's not mega-quick like Frosty or Clayton, but he's hardly slow now. When he got his chance v St Kilda, he was part of a top-heavy forward line and blew it. For some reason he just didn't have the confidence to go back and nail his shots that day - but I suspect that day will come soon and hopefully he can turn it on in one of the next two games for us. And then if the rules are changed to limit zones, he will be an even better player.
  9. Love the way that Wiseblood and others have defended Jesse and as to it being a bulls..t thread as was suggested by one, the fact that we are all reading it and so many of us are replying shows that it is now the most interesting discussion for fans. It's a bit like Jack Watts of 2013-17 - after so many underacheiving games, it all starts turning on the big name, big pay players - as it rightly should. Please don't make the mistake that I am suggesting Jesse is not capable of being physical - he clearly is unlike Wattsy - but Jesse has been granted the most pivotal spot in the side and finds himself being surpassed by a meat and potatoes hard worker in T-Mac, who has shown that if you fight for every contest, things can happen. For me, in Jesse's case it has nothing to do with his ability - we all know he has a leap, we all know he can run, we all know he can baulk and pivot as well as any big guy in the league. What we don't know (and even the club may not know) is what he gets up to at night - is he partying too hard, is he drinking too much, is he professional - because nowadays only the players that work their butt off both on and off the field are successful in the long-term. I've heard rumours of poor antics and I've heard reports from daughters at nightclubs, so I know he enjoys that scene perhaps more than he should - he's 23 now, he's not a kid. Will he mature like Dusty? Is he capable of maturing like Dusty and walking the fine line between loveable rogue and meathead? Jesse is the most natural footballer we've had since Allen Jakovich - yet interestingly Jakovich made a beeline for Clayton Oliver this weekend and rates him his favourite player of today. Jesse has one of the best natural running tanks I've seen - those of you who watch training reps will know how easy he does it. Yet he also does it as a part-time (maybe fulltime I don't know) smoker. As others have stated Jesse has flaws in his kicking - why haven't these been corrected yet. Why is he one of the few bigname forwards that rarely has a shot from 45-60m out. Why does he hold it like a left-footer. Why does he still stutter and we saw with his shot from 35m yesterday that he was stuttering even more than normal under the pressure of it all. If you peel back the layers of Jesse, I suspect you will find he's struggling with life in the fastlane of AFL football and is a bit of a Nick Kyrgios - happy to act cool and disinterested when beaten rather than show that he's working his butt off to fix things. Now he has an excuse, a foot injury, and his omission may actually help us, not hinder us. Part of that is because Weid has been getting better and better at VFL level and looks almost like a midfielder at training, such is his confidence dishing it off. Whilst I am not totally confident that he will be able to turn it on just yet, I am confident he will be able to match or possibly even surpass what Jesse has done for us in the big games this season. And if he does show signs, then maybe the title of this thread is bang on the money after all - trade Hogan!
  10. Thanks older Demon but we actually do have A-listers now - Gawn, Oliver, Viney and Brayshaw and Salem heading that way. We also already have replacements for those three players. Lewis - Salem has already taken on the role and made him expendable. Vince - Take your pick out of several defenders who play tight and uncomprising footy like Bernie used to until he started losing a bit of pace - Smith is my favourite of the new breed though. Jones - he's already been moved out of our midfield core. I'd like to see him play the Jarrad McVeigh role next year. Agree with you though that it is a big call to move out Hoges, but sometimes as we saw with Wattsy last year, it needs to be done and in Hoges' case it's not just because of what he displays on the field.
  11. Thanks Febel - I thought as much. It's probably too late in season and nowadays they train in the three specific groups, but I would have loved to have seen Hoges and OMac swap possies a few times this season mid games. And with Joel Smith out, Jesse is probably our only player (when in form) that is quick enough and good enough in the air to provide an intercept game-saving mark. I saw him way back when he played U18s for WA and I thought what a talent back there.
  12. So you didn't spot Melky this season - he leads league in goal assists - a pretty handy stat I reckon.
  13. Well said Clint. Please DL nerds provide stats on this. My suspicion is that he has been abysmal in every one of our recent losses and very good in every one of our wins - downhill skier (smoker). The two exceptions that I can recall are that he was pretty handy against Richmond at night - even snagging one from 50m out. He also beat two players to get the key matchwinning handball against Adelaide three weeks ago - after a pretty quiet night mind you. He made a great start to year, but has fallen away and his lack of second efforts are becoming the norm. I've said a few times that he probably needs a stint down back just to give him perspective and remind him how important it is to keep contesting. But now it seems he has a bit of a niggle anyway so there may be more to his loss of form. One of my biggest disappointment yesterday was in third term on members wing and he and his opponent (think it was Aliir) were coming to fly for a mark and Lloyd was in front and backing in courageously and Hoges didn't even hammer Lloyd with a knee up fly - which would have been a fair tactic and the expected tactic.
  14. Clearly will be the two ins with Hibberd and Melky and I would have thought Hannan, Wags, Weid, Kent and Bugg are all in the mix for a recall as well although I can't see them all returning in one hit. The three likely outs by my reckoning are: Hunt - Injured his ankle ligaments again I think, but let's wait and see what club says on this. Pedo - Replaced Smith as we tried going big, but he just wasn't able to play that intercepter role and you have to wonder what selectors were thinking in picking him as a third defender against a small side like the Swans. With Hibberd out, Wags was the logical like-for-like choice. Further to this Oscar got the easy second-tall gig on McCartin and that meant his confidence and standing rose as Pedo's fell. Spargo - I love his workrate but I reckon his two shots that ended up short make it hard to justify him at such a young age. Then the club has to decide whether they can afford to again play Hoges and Garlett who have been unable to have an impact in big games, although both have been mega-impressive in our easy wins. Ousting them means a major restructure of forward line late in season. If Hoges is too sore, then I actually think Weids can do a fairly good job of replacing him.
  15. For the love of god - open your eyes and watch the game!
  16. 6 Salem - Cleanest of our ball users all day and is now our most trusted defender. Hope his run in middle late was out of desperation and not something we will try at start next week. 5 Harmes - Love how everyone now realises how important he is. However his job was to stop Josh Kennedy for much of the day. If I was giving Brownlow votes it was 3 Heeney, 2 Salem 1 Kennedy, Harmes or Lloyd. 4 Tyson - fantastic second quarter and constant provider of drive from his wing. Opponent Hannebery did get it a bit too much though. 3 T.Mac - He missed a couple early as nerves took hold of side but came back later to nail a couple, including the one from outside 50m which was a gem. 2 Brayshaw - what a first term, although ultimately unable to hugely impact scoreboard. 1 Petracca - Handy as marking outlet up the line, but looked more dangerous than he actually was. Olly and Jones - had their moments but their kicking was down compared to normal. All other players drifted in and out of it, including our favourite big fella.
  17. Interesting take by you. I actually have at least eight changes to our list for next season and there are plenty of reasons to suggest it should happen. 1) Draft observers keep saying it is one of the best for several seasons. They say that pretty regularly I know, but it certainly isn't one where people are saying it lacks depth at top like last year. 2) If we are to get Gaff, then we will have salary cap issues if we don't bring in some young kids who usually start on the base wages. Removing a few of our highly-paid veterans becomes smart economics. 3) We have three (arguably four players) in the mix to retire - Vince, Pedo, Jordy and Jeffy. 4) We have three players who have been given two years to make it and they are still a long way off from making a debut - Dion, Lochie and Mitch King. There will be no money saved there, but sadly it must be done. In Lochie and Mitch's cases, we already have a project ruckman for next year with Austin Bradtke. 5) We have three other players who are out of contract and may be moved on - Bugg, McKenna and Kent. And we have already lost one - Balic. On top of that for the past 3 years, Tubby Taylor has barely had a chance to draft more than two speculative rookies, so he will be champing at the bit to get a go at doing what he's paid for. Personally I'd be moving Keilty and Tim Smith on to the main list on one-year deals as back-ups and taking the full quota of rookies with Corey Wagner and Jay Lockhart among them. As to rule changes, if they happen then the big winners will be Weid and Frosty and both are already contracted and I'd certainly be keeping them.
  18. I think you would find that our team is now renowned for their kicking skills. Prior to Goody, we certainly were poor, but that's an area we have made major inroads on and whilst everyone can point to the odd brainfade or poor kick under pressure, almost everyone in our side can nail a target. Those that couldn't - Frost, Hunt, Bugg and Tyson - were banished to the twos but after the Pies game, Goody also realised that you needed pace as well as precision and he had to balance up his leanings a bit more - hence Frosty and Smith got games. Vanders is such a hard bull that Goody has to weigh up his errant kicks as you point out though. But if I was an opponent, I think I know which one out of Spargo, JKH and Vanders I'd prefer to play on.
  19. I think people are underestimating the influence Joel Smith has had on our backline - he provides pace, an ability to play on smalls and talls, he loves snagging a tackle and he intercepts really well. I accept that he's still learning the game (he's only played about eight) and his kicking choices at times are a little off, but I reckon he's been a sensational Mr FixIt since replacing Lever and he's one of the chief reasons why we are not all bemoaning the lack of pace that others possess down back. I know Wiseblood disagrees, but I reckon outside of Salem, he's the one player from our back seven who we cannot cover because of his flexibility. We can bring in Hunt to provide the dash and tackle pressure - but he is not capable of outmuscling a big. We can bring in Wags who can provide the leap and is more precise with his kicking, but he's just not as quick when teams break through our press and he's a left-footer - we've got plenty of those. We can bring in Pedo and we'll get an honest worker with a thumping kick, but if we do we are back to being the slowest side in the league that was exposed by the Pies and Tigers. I actually have three changes to fix our issues down back - that's how crucial Smith is. Firstly, we need some marking confidence down back and unfortunately for the past six weeks Oscar has lost his mojo in that area. This is not a crime, he is a kid after all. But he needs to go back and spend two weeks in the twos as the dominant man so that he can return eager to play his role in the finals. At the moment he looks worried the minute he is isolated down back near the goal square, so Frosty is now preferred for that role. Further to that Pedo has been playing even better than his normal reliable self and provided there is a slowish match up, then he is our best bet as our second tall defender until O-Mac's mojo returns. McCartin is a slowish match-up and he's a kid and Pedo should be able to exploit him and peel off for a few intercept marks. And as with Oscar, Pedo's the smoothest, cleanest kick in the side. The second change is that Hunt has to come in this week, otherwise we will just be too slow down back against the Swans who have been forced to go small because of injuries. More than likely Jetta will have to play on Ronke and Hunt is quick enough to play on Papley or Rohan if he is rushed back. The third change is that we may need to bring in Wags to counter Parker or Heeney's aerial ability when they play forward - effectively play Smith's role on the third tall. It's a tricky call because it means Bernie is pushed out of our backline. The question is whether Bernie is then sent forward where he can provide nuisance value and utilise his smarts and his kicking skills or just dropped again. But the forward line is where I'd like to see him play out this season and finish his terrific career because Lewis is too slow to play anywhere else than down back and our former Hawk is a lovely reader of the game and clever outlet - nine times out of 10 anyway. If that means JKH or Spargo misses, then so be it. Both are young, both are working their butt off and developing, but with so much at stake, they aren't quite strong enough yet to regularly make an impact. Vanders is strong enough, he just isn't game-fit yet, but he'll get there and he's the ideal type for the Swans. Obviously if Melky is fit, then one of them has to make room anyway. In: Pedo, Hunt, Wagner (Melky if fit) Out: O.Mac, J.Smith, JKH/Spargo B: Jetta (Ronke) Frost (Buddy) Lewis HB: Hunt Pedo (McCartin) Salem C Jones Brayshaw Tyson HF: ANB T.Mac Vince F: Garlett Hoges Petracca Ru: Gawn Harmes Oliver Int: Vanders, Wags, Fritsch, JKH/Spargo
  20. Yes it really is an extraordinary story - love the way the AFL say that the Feb/March window is all they can afford for the AFLW because that is the time when no other sport is played. Let's get to the truth; 1) That is the key time for almost every minor sport (aths, swimming, baseball) and also when A-League and WNBL play their finals. So quite frankly the AFL is rapt to wipe their coverage out. 2) Ultimately I expect it to be revealed that Channel 7/Fox decided they wouldn't cover games in late January or early April. In the case of late January both Seven and Fox and Nine are already knee-deep in tennis and BBL/WBBL coverage. Then in early April, both have AFL commitments plus Fox has Rugby league committments. TV and commercial realities drive the AFL and now the AFLW it seems. 3) And for some reason the AFL decided way back it did no want to impact state-run women's comp which begin in April. The fact that April is the best time for footy - grounds are in great knick (way softer than in Feb or March) and weather is generally better for players and fans has been overlooked to serve other interests and clashes with the main game. To me, it just shows how bloody-minded and niggardly the AFL are and how they are happy to wipe everything else out, but on this occasion they appear to be about to fall on their own samarai sword and wipe AFLW out. Logic says, as Daisy says, that with 10 teams it should be a 9-game season with two weeks of finals. If that means the finals is mid-April so be it. A few games could be played as AFL/AFLW double headers.
  21. The thing that I'm hoping Dazzle has picked up from this video is that Nibbler is at the initial contest like everyone else and then he just runs (unlike everybody else) because he is the fittest bloke at the club. Yes we have all noticed he can miss the odd kick, but he's playing a position that is always under pressure and a spot where you are heavily criticised when you lose and begrudgingly accepted with "about time" or "downhill skier" when you win. What is sad is that if you really watched him as if you were his father, you would be rapt with his positioning and intensity and his team-first ethic. Instead you have just allowed your own personal vendetta to get the better of you. I personally get sh..ted off with Jordy's lack of pace but it doesn't stop me realising what he brings to the table. Repeat after me 100 times: "I must not bag Nibbler"
  22. Hard to see any changes this week unless someone pulls up sore or catches Hoges' flu. Biggest issues now are figuring out the best way for O.Mac and Jesse to regain confidence and how to find room for Vanders. My own personal view on the first one is to try switching ends for both O.Mac and Jesse - at least until half time. Just so they can get a different perspective. As to Vanders, the only possible out, if we have to pull the pin, is Spargo, given that Jeffy performed well and I'd want Charlie back in the following week.
  23. 6 Oliver - forget the rating in the HS today, that was done by a SA reporter. Three more Brownlow votes and Gawny should now feel worried he may not receive the Bluey medal. 5 Neal-Bullen - yes and I am surprised that there are no written apologies here already from those who have been wanting him out of the side the whole year. Vision and intense pressure - a couple of errant kicks away from BOG. 4 Jordy - Yes I know I reckon he's too slow, but the Crows are the only side in the comp still dishing up big slow forwards and that meant he wasn't exposed. As a result what was exposed was his kicking skills - two rippers from 50m out that kept us ticking. 3 Tracca - Another game where his imposing frame influenced every contest he was involved in. Bring on September. 2 Tyson - it was a bad night for us DLers. Another whipping boy stands out and a few of his handball gives were Oliveresque. Further to that it seemed he again had to play outside and work his way into the contests. 1 JKH - Ok, at least I will apologise. His best game since that fateful day at AAMI Stadium five years ago when we all thought we'd snaffled a superstar. The spark in the third quarter and a running man for much of the night. He probably just cost Baker his debut game this year.
  24. Yep, of the 14 uncontracted players left now that Angus and Jetta have signed, I have between eight and 10 missing out for next season with Oscar and Vanders (assuming he survives the season with his ankle still intact) the ones that are imperative. I also feel Jordy and Jeffy have big decisions to make on their futures, which will be determined by their involvement in the run home and hopefully by finals. Even though he's not re-signed, Bernie's post-AFL career appears set with his Pride Real Estate, so it's hard to imagine him staying beyond this season. Assuming we manage to snaffle Gaff, then when you look at our potential Rd 1 side and key back-ups for next year on paper based on who has signed and my two imperatives - it's pretty daunting. Defenders: Hibberd, Jetta, Salem, Hunt, J.Smith, Oscar, Frost - Lever (when fit) Wagner, Petty Mids: Viney, Oliver, Brayshaw, Gaff, Jones, Harmes, Fritsch, Gawn - Tyson Stretch Baker Maynard Forwards: Hogan, T.Mac, Melky, ANB, Spargo, Petracca, Vanders - Hannan, Weid When looking at overall list structure, we obviously will need to decide who is our best option at providing back-up for Gawn, although clearly we won't be able to lure a frontliner because we have the best and any back-up is unlikely to get a game, unless there is injury. As we have already decided on one of our project rucks in Bradtke, then we don't really need to keep more than one of Pedo, King and Filipovic. And if Pedo's had enough of waiting, then a younger fringe tall who can also play forward such as Freo's Matt Taberner might be worth pursuing for a lower order pick. You would also think that at least one of Bugg, Kent, JKH and Balic will be offered a new deal.
  25. Harmes is a big loss, but another soldier goes down ... To me that means we have to bite the bullet and play Vanders, even if it is a week earlier than planned. We need another big body at night and assuming we give Tyson more game time this week (only played 63%), then Vanders should be able to cope with about 65% game time bashing into players. The other in is the certain one - Wagner. He comes in for JKH, but obviously won't play his wing. It just means that Spargo spends a bit more time on wing. Wags inclusion means he can play on one of their talls when needed (given Adelaide's big size) and also means the coach has to do what I've advocated all year - send Bernie forward where his smarts and lip can come in handy and we all know he loves a goal (and a laugh or even a smile). But on a serious level, we should be trying to manufacture a match up that sees him picking up Laird a fair bit of time. B: Jetta Oscar Jordy HB: Smith Frost Salem Mid: Jones Brayshaw Fritsch HF: Vince Hoges Melksham F: Garlett T.Mac Petracca Ru: Gawn Oliver Tyson Int: Wagner (def), Spargo (fwd/mid) AVB (fwd/mid) ANB (fwd)
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