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We may have injuries, we may have slow starts, but I feel really strongly that our fans are the real problem! We got soemthing like 16,000 the other week against Freo the other week. So what that its FREO! We should aim to get 25,000 to 30,000. Quantity is not just the issue. I feel the quality of the fans is as well. We are not hard enough on the players. We always say "well done Greeny" or "your the best player in the competition Brucey". We are just too soft on the players. Neale Daniher ain't the problem! Also the fans that go to the matches are usually Scotch College or Melbourne Grammaer shcool students, well they make up most of the percentage and they just fixiated on Brucey or Greeney getting fantasy points on AFL dream team. I have put below an article involving Manchester United great Roy Keane in 2000, asking the fans to help them at the home games!!! So come on Melbourne supporters get to the bloody games and start becoming harsher and stop being deluded about the fact that we are going to win a premiership each year after we win a couple of games.

Roy Keane has launched a scathing attack on sections of the Manchester United support whom he claims 'can't even spell football, never mind understand it'. ane appeared to be criticising those in the corporate hospitality areas of the ground when he said: 'Sometimes you wonder, "do they understand the game of football?"

'We're 1-0 up, then there are one or two stray passes and they're getting on players' backs. It's just not on.

'At the end of the day they need to get behind the team. Away from home our fans are fantastic, I'd call them the hardcore fans.

'But at home they have a few drinks and probably the prawn sandwiches, and they don't realise what's going on out on the pitch.'

The United skipper told the club's official satellite TV station: 'I don't think some of the people who come to Old Trafford can spell football, never mind understand it.'

The 1999 treble-winning manager said: 'We have a problem because some people come here to admire the scenery and enjoy a packet of crisps and not get into the feel of the game. I think they've got used to the team doing well all the time.'

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all lovely words..

just a point..

no one has ever explained to me just how fans win a game.

Fans are passengers

The team is the train......we dont dictate/participate...just go along for the ride !!

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40+ years and we still haven't reached our destination. Connex are laughing at us!!!!!!

MFC... Flinders St, This Train not going !!

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all lovely words..

just a point..

no one has ever explained to me just how fans win a game.

Fans are passengers

The team is the train......we dont dictate/participate...just go along for the ride !!

What he's trying to relate to us is exactly what knowledgeable footy people have said about geelong for years, that it's a one team town & the supporters just blow hot air into their players ears constantly making the players think their better than they are & feel over secure.

I believe this is also happening with us, that we don't demand better from our players & teams. The Magpies supporters would be pulling down the grandstands now if they had to put up with what we've all gone through.

Ps: the players are inspired by the atmosphere that the crowd creates, or deinspired,,,,.

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["Also the fans that go to the matches are usually Scotch College or Melbourne Grammaer shcool students, well they make up most of the percentage and they just fixiated on Brucey or Greeney getting fantasy points on AFL dream team. "]

Seriously what sort of stereotype is that?? Next you are going to say they all drive Land Rovers and go to the beach, never thought I would see the day when Melbourne supporters stereotyped themselves. I truly hate Collingwood but at least they have loyal supporters, they dont care if they are winning or losing they go and watch and still think their team is bloody wonderful, and they have won more premierships so explain that to me?

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We may have injuries, we may have slow starts, but I feel really strongly that our fans are the real problem! We got soemthing like 16,000 the other week against Freo the other week. So what that its FREO! We should aim to get 25,000 to 30,000. Quantity is not just the issue. I feel the quality of the fans is as well. We are not hard enough on the players. We always say "well done Greeny" or "your the best player in the competition Brucey". We are just too soft on the players. Neale Daniher ain't the problem! Also the fans that go to the matches are usually Scotch College or Melbourne Grammaer shcool students, well they make up most of the percentage and they just fixiated on Brucey or Greeney getting fantasy points on AFL dream team. I have put below an article involving Manchester United great Roy Keane in 2000, asking the fans to help them at the home games!!! So come on Melbourne supporters get to the bloody games and start becoming harsher and stop being deluded about the fact that we are going to win a premiership each year after we win a couple of games.

Roy Keane has launched a scathing attack on sections of the Manchester United support whom he claims 'can't even spell football, never mind understand it'. ane appeared to be criticising those in the corporate hospitality areas of the ground when he said: 'Sometimes you wonder, "do they understand the game of football?"

'We're 1-0 up, then there are one or two stray passes and they're getting on players' backs. It's just not on.

'At the end of the day they need to get behind the team. Away from home our fans are fantastic, I'd call them the hardcore fans.

'But at home they have a few drinks and probably the prawn sandwiches, and they don't realise what's going on out on the pitch.'

The United skipper told the club's official satellite TV station: 'I don't think some of the people who come to Old Trafford can spell football, never mind understand it.'

The 1999 treble-winning manager said: 'We have a problem because some people come here to admire the scenery and enjoy a packet of crisps and not get into the feel of the game. I think they've got used to the team doing well all the time.'

Yep, it's the fans. Keane said that during the period United won the league three times in a row. So obviously the fans were affecting United's performance :rolleyes:

Our home form from 2004-2006 has been very good. We hardly have lost at the MCG. So, yeah, it's the fans.

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We may have injuries, we may have slow starts, but I feel really strongly that our fans are the real problem! We got soemthing like 16,000 the other week against Freo the other week. So what that its FREO! We should aim to get 25,000 to 30,000. Quantity is not just the issue. I feel the quality of the fans is as well. We are not hard enough on the players. We always say "well done Greeny" or "your the best player in the competition Brucey". We are just too soft on the players. Neale Daniher ain't the problem! Also the fans that go to the matches are usually Scotch College or Melbourne Grammaer shcool students, well they make up most of the percentage and they just fixiated on Brucey or Greeney getting fantasy points on AFL dream team. I have put below an article involving Manchester United great Roy Keane in 2000, asking the fans to help them at the home games!!! So come on Melbourne supporters get to the bloody games and start becoming harsher and stop being deluded about the fact that we are going to win a premiership each year after we win a couple of games.

Roy Keane has launched a scathing attack on sections of the Manchester United support whom he claims 'can't even spell football, never mind understand it'. ane appeared to be criticising those in the corporate hospitality areas of the ground when he said: 'Sometimes you wonder, "do they understand the game of football?"

'We're 1-0 up, then there are one or two stray passes and they're getting on players' backs. It's just not on.

'At the end of the day they need to get behind the team. Away from home our fans are fantastic, I'd call them the hardcore fans.

'But at home they have a few drinks and probably the prawn sandwiches, and they don't realise what's going on out on the pitch.'

The United skipper told the club's official satellite TV station: 'I don't think some of the people who come to Old Trafford can spell football, never mind understand it.'

The 1999 treble-winning manager said: 'We have a problem because some people come here to admire the scenery and enjoy a packet of crisps and not get into the feel of the game. I think they've got used to the team doing well all the time.'

what the????????

last time i looked i am eating a pie at the footy...not running to the wing before the start of the game...

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That is some crazy correlation you found there.

I don't see how supporters affect the team's ability to kick, run, chase, man-up, handball etc etc...

We are also not responsible for the injury curse that has his the club.

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We may have injuries, we may have slow starts, but I feel really strongly that our fans are the real problem! We got soemthing like 16,000 the other week against Freo the other week. So what that its FREO! We should aim to get 25,000 to 30,000. Quantity is not just the issue. I feel the quality of the fans is as well. We are not hard enough on the players. We always say "well done Greeny" or "your the best player in the competition Brucey". We are just too soft on the players. Neale Daniher ain't the problem! Also the fans that go to the matches are usually Scotch College or Melbourne Grammaer shcool students, well they make up most of the percentage and they just fixiated on Brucey or Greeney getting fantasy points on AFL dream team. I have put below an article involving Manchester United great Roy Keane in 2000, asking the fans to help them at the home games!!! So come on Melbourne supporters get to the bloody games and start becoming harsher and stop being deluded about the fact that we are going to win a premiership each year after we win a couple of games.

Roy Keane has launched a scathing attack on sections of the Manchester United support whom he claims 'can't even spell football, never mind understand it'. ane appeared to be criticising those in the corporate hospitality areas of the ground when he said: 'Sometimes you wonder, "do they understand the game of football?"

'We're 1-0 up, then there are one or two stray passes and they're getting on players' backs. It's just not on.

'At the end of the day they need to get behind the team. Away from home our fans are fantastic, I'd call them the hardcore fans.

'But at home they have a few drinks and probably the prawn sandwiches, and they don't realise what's going on out on the pitch.'

The United skipper told the club's official satellite TV station: 'I don't think some of the people who come to Old Trafford can spell football, never mind understand it.'

The 1999 treble-winning manager said: 'We have a problem because some people come here to admire the scenery and enjoy a packet of crisps and not get into the feel of the game. I think they've got used to the team doing well all the time.'

Your quote from Roy Keane condradicts you when you said "We are not hard enough on the players" and "We are just too soft on the players". I think Keane was getting stuck into the supporters for criticising the team without justification not for being too soft on the players. I think Melbourne fans understand the game only too well, and well enough to know when it's not going to be a good day out with the kids to see us get beaten.

Crowds can be a factor but I think its more af a factor if the crowd in general is big ie 50,000+ and the atmosphere that is created. No doubt playing in front of 16,000 at the MCG is going to make you think about how bad the tea is travelling but it wouldn't be unexpected. At the end of the day its the teams performance that's going to put bums on seats and with stars like Robbo, Nieta and McLean missing its just not going to be the same spectacle.

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The real reason we are not winning games is that we have 2 useles ruckman in P.J and Jamar doing nothing week in and week out robbing us of an extra midfielder.

Last week it looks as though PJ was doing hit outs in the forward pocket rather than trying to take marks

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That is some crazy correlation you found there.

I don't see how supporters affect the team's ability to kick, run, chase, man-up, handball etc etc...

We are also not responsible for the injury curse that has his the club.

Absoultely agree Jaded- i cant see myself affecting the team. Its up to the players to play on the day and we are the ride the train with them

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We may have injuries, we may have slow starts, but I feel really strongly that our fans are the real problem! We got soemthing like 16,000 the other week against Freo the other week. So what that its FREO! We should aim to get 25,000 to 30,000. Quantity is not just the issue. I feel the quality of the fans is as well. We are not hard enough on the players. We always say "well done Greeny" or "your the best player in the competition Brucey". We are just too soft on the players. Neale Daniher ain't the problem! Also the fans that go to the matches are usually Scotch College or Melbourne Grammaer shcool students, well they make up most of the percentage and they just fixiated on Brucey or Greeney getting fantasy points on AFL dream team. I have put below an article involving Manchester United great Roy Keane in 2000, asking the fans to help them at the home games!!! So come on Melbourne supporters get to the bloody games and start becoming harsher and stop being deluded about the fact that we are going to win a premiership each year after we win a couple of games.

Roy Keane has launched a scathing attack on sections of the Manchester United support whom he claims 'can't even spell football, never mind understand it'. ane appeared to be criticising those in the corporate hospitality areas of the ground when he said: 'Sometimes you wonder, "do they understand the game of football?"

'We're 1-0 up, then there are one or two stray passes and they're getting on players' backs. It's just not on.

'At the end of the day they need to get behind the team. Away from home our fans are fantastic, I'd call them the hardcore fans.

'But at home they have a few drinks and probably the prawn sandwiches, and they don't realise what's going on out on the pitch.'

The United skipper told the club's official satellite TV station: 'I don't think some of the people who come to Old Trafford can spell football, never mind understand it.'

The 1999 treble-winning manager said: 'We have a problem because some people come here to admire the scenery and enjoy a packet of crisps and not get into the feel of the game. I think they've got used to the team doing well all the time.'

Ah yes the old 'prawn sandwiches' comments. Loved it at the time and love it now!

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The 1999 treble-winning manager said: 'We have a problem because some people come here to admire the scenery and enjoy a packet of crisps and not get into the feel of the game. I think they've got used to the team doing well all the time.'

Lucky that's not a problem for us.

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I don't see how supporters affect the team's ability to kick, run, chase, man-up, handball etc etc...

Most supporters at the moment could probably kick, run, chase, man-up, handball better than the actual players...

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