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Best case scenario with injuries and suspensions.

FB: Jetta May Hibberd

HB: Lewis Frost Salem

Centre: Brayshaw Oliver Jones

HF: Petracca Weideman Fritsch

FF: Melksham T. McDonald vandenBerg

Foll: Gawn Viney Harmes

Int: Hunt J. Smith Stretch Spargo

Overall a pretty strong side on paper, but can’t afford any more injuries.

The coaches will probably go with O. McDonald over Frost, I’d go with Frost because we are a slow team and need all the pace we can get.

ANB will also probably play even though he shouldn’t.

No crumbing forwards is a huge issue, Spargo on a bench even though yesterday he was awful we have no other options with Garlett injured.

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3 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Best case scenario with injuries and suspensions.

FB: Jetta May Hibberd

HB: Lewis Frost Salem

Centre: Brayshaw Oliver Jones

HF: Petracca Weideman Fritsch

FF: Melksham T. McDonald vandenBerg

Foll: Gawn Viney Harmes

Int: Hunt J. Smith Stretch Spargo

Overall a pretty strong side on paper, but can’t afford any more injuries.

The coaches will probably go with O. McDonald over Frost, I’d go with Frost because we are a slow team and need all the pace we can get.

ANB will also probably play even though he shouldn’t.

No crumbing forwards is a huge issue, Spargo on a bench even though yesterday he was awful we have no other options with Garlett injured.

Agree, given the circumstances at present. Frosty is a good choice as OMac is virtually useless, missing too many spoils, missing in action and missing his opponent who is mostly always metres ahead and pumping. Big responsibility for Spargo and I am sure that he will be up to it - however, Vanders has many values to add and can screen well for crumbing. It is the forward entry and its anticipation and open spaces that must be utilised - and not just by the Melk. Maybe TMac can hit his straps, as well. 

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14 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Best case scenario with injuries and suspensions.

FB: Jetta May Hibberd

HB: Lewis Frost Salem

Centre: Brayshaw Oliver Jones

HF: Petracca Weideman Fritsch

FF: Melksham T. McDonald vandenBerg

Foll: Gawn Viney Harmes

Int: Hunt J. Smith Stretch Spargo

Overall a pretty strong side on paper, but can’t afford any more injuries.

The coaches will probably go with O. McDonald over Frost, I’d go with Frost because we are a slow team and need all the pace we can get.

ANB will also probably play even though he shouldn’t.

No crumbing forwards is a huge issue, Spargo on a bench even though yesterday he was awful we have no other options with Garlett injured.

I think we are going to we might lose a few we might expect to win early in the season.

I'm tempering my expectations and will be very happy winning 50% to the half way mark with no injuries.

New personnel, the structural changes due to the 666 rule and having key players underdone might see us stall out of the blocks a bit.  

I also see the form of a few in the lower tier as a bit of a worry.

I would love to be wrong.

 

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40 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Best case scenario with injuries and suspensions.

FB: Jetta May Hibberd

HB: Lewis Frost Salem

Centre: Brayshaw Oliver Jones

HF: Petracca Weideman Fritsch

FF: Melksham T. McDonald vandenBerg

Foll: Gawn Viney Harmes

Int: Hunt J. Smith Stretch Spargo

Overall a pretty strong side on paper, but can’t afford any more injuries.

The coaches will probably go with O. McDonald over Frost, I’d go with Frost because we are a slow team and need all the pace we can get.

ANB will also probably play even though he shouldn’t.

No crumbing forwards is a huge issue, Spargo on a bench even though yesterday he was awful we have no other options with Garlett injured.

I agree ANB shouldn't play but probably will.  Too often ANB's turnovers kill momentum but he seems to be a coaches favourite so will play until someone consistently does his defensive role better and who has better disposal. 

Tbh I don't think Stretch warrants a game.  Doesn't do enough defensive work and is usually slow in disposing of the ball.  I put this down to not thinking fast enough and maybe lack of confidence in his decision making and his disposal skills. 

So I would say ANB lines up instead of Stretch.

Anyone know how Tom Sparrow went yesterday?  Any room for him in round 1?

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5 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I agree ANB shouldn't play but probably will.  Too often ANB's turnovers kill momentum but he seems to be a coaches favourite so will play until someone consistently does his defensive role better and who has better disposal. 

Tbh I don't think Stretch warrants a game.  Doesn't do enough defensive work and is usually slow in disposing of the ball.  I put this down to not thinking fast enough and maybe lack of confidence in his decision making and his disposal skills. 

So I would say ANB lines up instead of Stretch.

Anyone know how Tom Sparrow went yesterday?  Any room for him in round 1?

Tom sparrow will need time at Casey. Probably wont see him until 2nd half of the year.

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39 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Best case scenario with injuries and suspensions.

FB: Jetta May Hibberd

HB: Lewis Frost Salem

Centre: Brayshaw Oliver Jones

HF: Petracca Weideman Fritsch

FF: Melksham T. McDonald vandenBerg

Foll: Gawn Viney Harmes

Int: Hunt J. Smith Stretch Spargo

Overall a pretty strong side on paper, but can’t afford any more injuries.

The coaches will probably go with O. McDonald over Frost, I’d go with Frost because we are a slow team and need all the pace we can get.

ANB will also probably play even though he shouldn’t.

No crumbing forwards is a huge issue, Spargo on a bench even though yesterday he was awful we have no other options with Garlett injured.

Very good side.

Agree coaches will go OMac ahead of Frost, ANB instead of Stretch. Spargo has to crumb in the pocket, using Van DB off bench.

Hard to know what to make of JLT form, seemed haphazard and defence pretty loose. Be great to see Viney back in, and Melksham is a key part of forward line functioning properly.

Can’t wait for the 23rd!

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6 minutes ago, D4Life said:

Very good side.

Agree coaches will go OMac ahead of Frost, ANB instead of Stretch. Spargo has to crumb in the pocket, using Van DB off bench.

Hard to know what to make of JLT form, seemed haphazard and defence pretty loose. Be great to see Viney back in, and Melksham is a key part of forward line functioning properly.

Can’t wait for the 23rd!

Melksham holds our forward line together. He's our best forward. 

ANB will be in, hes defence frist which we need. Our game plan is run and gun attack, we need players who want to defence, cause we have players that dont. 

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5 minutes ago, Dippy said:

Melksham holds our forward line together. He's our best forward. 

ANB will be in, hes defence frist which we need. Our game plan is run and gun attack, we need players who want to defence, cause we have players that dont. 

What does that even mean? Makes no sense at all.

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8 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

What does that even mean? Makes no sense at all.

anb is a tackler and cracks in hard. I like him in the team. he is a good combination of speed and endurance. I dont care if he doesnt get 20 touches a game. like vandenberg, he is there to harass. plus anb hits the scoreboard too so I don't get the anb hate. 

ever since watts, I just wanted guys that would crack in and anb does that. if we want to talk about skill execution let's look at omac and jordan lewis

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Don't mind that side in the OP and I too would have Frost over OMac. Only change I would make is I would go ANB over Stretch. Spargo's place in the side also a question mark, but I'm happy for him to have first crack at it.

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6 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

anb is a tackler and cracks in hard. I like him in the team. he is a good combination of speed and endurance. I dont care if he doesnt get 20 touches a game. like vandenberg, he is there to harass. plus anb hits the scoreboard too so I don't get the anb hate. 

ever since watts, I just wanted guys that would crack in and anb does that. if we want to talk about skill execution let's look at omac and jordan lewis

ANB is an ordinary footballer to put it nicely. He [censored] himself when the heat goes up and just jams the ball onto his foot without any awareness around him. I have also never seen a footballer loses his feet and goes to ground way too often like he does. 

He is slow in the mind in terms of football intellectual.

I am also not sure what speed you are talking about? Jayden Hunt has speed, ANB doesn't.

Unfortunately coaches will pick him because he does pressure acts and tackles... the quicker we find an upgraded and better version the sooner he is out of the side.

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2 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Best case scenario with injuries and suspensions.

FB: Jetta May Hibberd

HB: Lewis Frost Salem

Centre: Brayshaw Oliver Jones

HF: Petracca Weideman Fritsch

FF: Melksham T. McDonald vandenBerg

Foll: Gawn Viney Harmes

Int: Hunt J. Smith Stretch Spargo

Overall a pretty strong side on paper, but can’t afford any more injuries.

The coaches will probably go with O. McDonald over Frost, I’d go with Frost because we are a slow team and need all the pace we can get.

ANB will also probably play even though he shouldn’t.

No crumbing forwards is a huge issue, Spargo on a bench even though yesterday he was awful we have no other options with Garlett injured.

 

FB: Jetta  May  Hibberd

HB: Lewis  OMc  Salem

Centre: Harmes  Brayshaw  Jones

Foll: Gawn  Oliver  Viney

HF: Petracca  TMc  Fritsch

FF: Melksham  Weideman  jSmith

 

Int:  ANB  Spargo  AVB  Frost

Emerg:  cWag  the Sparrow  Hunt  Stretch 

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One thing we need to develop is a settled side.

Early last year and in 2017 we had a revolving two or three players that would go up or down from Casey depending on form.

Unfortunately there seems to be a high chance of that repeating itself over the next few weeks.

Stretch and Hunt haven't really done enough to press for senior selection but many have them in the side. If Viney doesn't play we could even see Maynard again.

Say what you like about the JLT games but none of the fringe really demanded a spot.

Of those first three games I would happily take two wins out of three.

Make no mistake this is our window and we have to make it count.

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1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

ANB is an ordinary footballer to put it nicely. He [censored] himself when the heat goes up and just jams the ball onto his foot without any awareness around him. I have also never seen a footballer loses his feet and goes to ground way too often like he does. 

He is slow in the mind in terms of football intellectual.

I am also not sure what speed you are talking about? Jayden Hunt has speed, ANB doesn't.

Unfortunately coaches will pick him because he does pressure acts and tackles... the quicker we find an upgraded and better version the sooner he is out of the side.

Agree with this.  Unfortunately despite his good attributes - high effort, endurance, great clubman - he has major deficiencies.   He doesn't crack in, he takes circular approaches to the football and to his opponent so he very rarely ever bodylines the ball or the man to put himself in danger.  He is actually one of the softest players in the side.  He is poor overhead and not a one touch footballer or a good user by foot.  What he does OK is create an outnumber to be able to lock the ball in  He is clearly instructed to take on a under 12s approach whereby he just chases the ball to add number to the contest and he does that very well to lock the ball in.  This is where his tackle stats come from.  Unfortunately, the Eagles cruelly exposed this tactic in the first quarter of the preliminary final.  

 

 

 

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Agree with this.  Unfortunately despite his good attributes - high effort, endurance, great clubman - he has major deficiencies.   He doesn't crack in, he takes circular approaches to the football and to his opponent so he very rarely ever bodylines the ball or the man to put himself in danger.  He is actually one of the softest players in the side.  He is poor overhead and not a one touch footballer or a good user by foot.  What he does OK is create an outnumber to be able to lock the ball in  He is clearly instructed to take on a under 12s approach whereby he just chases the ball to add number to the contest and he does that very well to lock the ball in.  This is where his tackle stats come from.  Unfortunately, the Eagles cruelly exposed this tactic in the first quarter of the preliminary final.  

 

 

 

This is well put and pretty much sums it up perfectly.

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Let's be honest - the side that runs out in a fortnight will be very, very similar to the one that got rolled in Perth.  May will be the major inclusion, but I can't see any of the kids getting a run, while KK is still a few weeks away from being in the frame for selection.

That side made a Prelim, so I've got every faith that we can start off the year in good form.

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Ins and outs from the high point of our season vs Geelong in the Elim final:

in - J Smith, Hunt

out - Tyson, Hannan

So pretty much the same side as that night and we kind of performed well that night wouldn’t you think?

Let’s not kid ourselves, May ain’t playing. The AFL are stamping bumps out of the game and we’d all be screaming for his suspension if he were still playing for GC and we were coming up against them.

 

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i don't think he's really done anything special, but i get the feeling that hore will definitely be a part of the side

at this stage, may will play as he has not been suspended...same as with goodwin saying that harmes will play, you have to presume he'll play

i'll go with the following changes from the 2018 prelim:

IN: may, hore, fritsch
OUT: frost, hannan, tyson

B: Jetta - May - Hore
HB: Lewis - O Mac - Hibberd
? Salem - Brayshaw - Fritsch
HF: Petracca - T Mac - vandenBerg
F: Melksham - Weideman - Spargo
Foll: Gawn - Oliver - Harmes
I/c: Jones - Viney - Neal-Bullen - J Smith
Emerg: Stretch - Frost - Hunt - Kielty

obviously if may is suspended then frost comes in

i worry about how underdone we look, both from a fitness as well as a cohesiveness point of view

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4 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I agree ANB shouldn't play but probably will.  Too often ANB's turnovers kill momentum but he seems to be a coaches favourite so will play until someone consistently does his defensive role better and who has better disposal. 

Tbh I don't think Stretch warrants a game.  Doesn't do enough defensive work and is usually slow in disposing of the ball.  I put this down to not thinking fast enough and maybe lack of confidence in his decision making and his disposal skills. 

So I would say ANB lines up instead of Stretch.

Anyone know how Tom Sparrow went yesterday?  Any room for him in round 1?

I love ANB & Stretch but two completely different players & I understand, two of the hardest defensively working players on the list. You don't run 15 km's plus every game & 'not work hard enough'....rediculous comment LH. Stretch has come off an 8 month foot injury, so prepared to throw him some confidence rope, while others throw him under the bus. Also would have thought that 10 marks yesterday & the highest on the ground, is testament to his work rate.

Here are the efficiency stats from yesterday for some of the lads pushing for round 1:

ANB 56%, Hunt 62%, Spargo 73%, Stretch 79% & just for some comparisons Brayshaw 62%, Petracca 70% & Fritsch 64%.

ANB & Spargo play for me but not because of efficiency, cos they kick goals & defensive pressure is great, especially ANB. Spargo looked a little out of his depth & may find a round 1 game line ball. Stretch misses but more so because of game time fitness from a long lay off. Hunt probably gets a gig because of one thing....his pace & unfortunately no room for him in the forward line.....more value in defensive if he can hit his targets. Sparrow not yet but at some stage during first half of year.

Love to see JKH come back too, as it looked like he was in for a good year. (77% eff last week)

 

 

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4 hours ago, Stretch Johnson said:

I think we are going to we might lose a few we might expect to win early in the season.

I'm tempering my expectations and will be very happy winning 50% to the half way mark with no injuries.

New personnel, the structural changes due to the 666 rule and having key players underdone might see us stall out of the blocks a bit.  

I also see the form of a few in the lower tier as a bit of a worry.

I would love to be wrong.

 

I think you're spot on, mate. I reckon we'll struggle early on. I just hope it doesn't cost us a top 6 spot and/or a top 4 spot.

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If Casey have another practice match next week do any of Jones, Melksham, Viney (depending on how he’s pulled up) get given a run again? I’m not suggesting they should, only curious to see if they need more minutes.

I remember Hannan getting a Round 1 game in 2017 on the back of only one Casey scratch match the week prior to the opener that year. 

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Huge doubt on Viney re fitness

May is in Strife I feel

Stretch , Keilty, JKH ( even if fit not up to it)

Oscar is too slow

Lewis game has gone past him

I would like to see

B Nev May Hibberd

HB Fritch Frost Salem

C Hunt Brayshaw Jones

HF  Petracca Weeds Melksham

F Smith Tommy Hannan

R  Maxxy Clarry Harmes ( if fit)

Inter Spargo Viney Chandler Hore

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