Jump to content

  • Podcast LIVE Tonight @ 8:30pm

Recommended Posts

Best case scenario with injuries and suspensions.

FB: Jetta May Hibberd

HB: Lewis Frost Salem

Centre: Brayshaw Oliver Jones

HF: Petracca Weideman Fritsch

FF: Melksham T. McDonald vandenBerg

Foll: Gawn Viney Harmes

Int: Hunt J. Smith Stretch Spargo

Overall a pretty strong side on paper, but can’t afford any more injuries.

The coaches will probably go with O. McDonald over Frost, I’d go with Frost because we are a slow team and need all the pace we can get.

ANB will also probably play even though he shouldn’t.

No crumbing forwards is a huge issue, Spargo on a bench even though yesterday he was awful we have no other options with Garlett injured.

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Best case scenario with injuries and suspensions.

FB: Jetta May Hibberd

HB: Lewis Frost Salem

Centre: Brayshaw Oliver Jones

HF: Petracca Weideman Fritsch

FF: Melksham T. McDonald vandenBerg

Foll: Gawn Viney Harmes

Int: Hunt J. Smith Stretch Spargo

Overall a pretty strong side on paper, but can’t afford any more injuries.

The coaches will probably go with O. McDonald over Frost, I’d go with Frost because we are a slow team and need all the pace we can get.

ANB will also probably play even though he shouldn’t.

No crumbing forwards is a huge issue, Spargo on a bench even though yesterday he was awful we have no other options with Garlett injured.

Agree, given the circumstances at present. Frosty is a good choice as OMac is virtually useless, missing too many spoils, missing in action and missing his opponent who is mostly always metres ahead and pumping. Big responsibility for Spargo and I am sure that he will be up to it - however, Vanders has many values to add and can screen well for crumbing. It is the forward entry and its anticipation and open spaces that must be utilised - and not just by the Melk. Maybe TMac can hit his straps, as well. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Best case scenario with injuries and suspensions.

FB: Jetta May Hibberd

HB: Lewis Frost Salem

Centre: Brayshaw Oliver Jones

HF: Petracca Weideman Fritsch

FF: Melksham T. McDonald vandenBerg

Foll: Gawn Viney Harmes

Int: Hunt J. Smith Stretch Spargo

Overall a pretty strong side on paper, but can’t afford any more injuries.

The coaches will probably go with O. McDonald over Frost, I’d go with Frost because we are a slow team and need all the pace we can get.

ANB will also probably play even though he shouldn’t.

No crumbing forwards is a huge issue, Spargo on a bench even though yesterday he was awful we have no other options with Garlett injured.

I think we are going to we might lose a few we might expect to win early in the season.

I'm tempering my expectations and will be very happy winning 50% to the half way mark with no injuries.

New personnel, the structural changes due to the 666 rule and having key players underdone might see us stall out of the blocks a bit.  

I also see the form of a few in the lower tier as a bit of a worry.

I would love to be wrong.

 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
40 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Best case scenario with injuries and suspensions.

FB: Jetta May Hibberd

HB: Lewis Frost Salem

Centre: Brayshaw Oliver Jones

HF: Petracca Weideman Fritsch

FF: Melksham T. McDonald vandenBerg

Foll: Gawn Viney Harmes

Int: Hunt J. Smith Stretch Spargo

Overall a pretty strong side on paper, but can’t afford any more injuries.

The coaches will probably go with O. McDonald over Frost, I’d go with Frost because we are a slow team and need all the pace we can get.

ANB will also probably play even though he shouldn’t.

No crumbing forwards is a huge issue, Spargo on a bench even though yesterday he was awful we have no other options with Garlett injured.

I agree ANB shouldn't play but probably will.  Too often ANB's turnovers kill momentum but he seems to be a coaches favourite so will play until someone consistently does his defensive role better and who has better disposal. 

Tbh I don't think Stretch warrants a game.  Doesn't do enough defensive work and is usually slow in disposing of the ball.  I put this down to not thinking fast enough and maybe lack of confidence in his decision making and his disposal skills. 

So I would say ANB lines up instead of Stretch.

Anyone know how Tom Sparrow went yesterday?  Any room for him in round 1?

Edited by Lucifer's Hero

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I agree ANB shouldn't play but probably will.  Too often ANB's turnovers kill momentum but he seems to be a coaches favourite so will play until someone consistently does his defensive role better and who has better disposal. 

Tbh I don't think Stretch warrants a game.  Doesn't do enough defensive work and is usually slow in disposing of the ball.  I put this down to not thinking fast enough and maybe lack of confidence in his decision making and his disposal skills. 

So I would say ANB lines up instead of Stretch.

Anyone know how Tom Sparrow went yesterday?  Any room for him in round 1?

Tom sparrow will need time at Casey. Probably wont see him until 2nd half of the year.

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

39 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Best case scenario with injuries and suspensions.

FB: Jetta May Hibberd

HB: Lewis Frost Salem

Centre: Brayshaw Oliver Jones

HF: Petracca Weideman Fritsch

FF: Melksham T. McDonald vandenBerg

Foll: Gawn Viney Harmes

Int: Hunt J. Smith Stretch Spargo

Overall a pretty strong side on paper, but can’t afford any more injuries.

The coaches will probably go with O. McDonald over Frost, I’d go with Frost because we are a slow team and need all the pace we can get.

ANB will also probably play even though he shouldn’t.

No crumbing forwards is a huge issue, Spargo on a bench even though yesterday he was awful we have no other options with Garlett injured.

Very good side.

Agree coaches will go OMac ahead of Frost, ANB instead of Stretch. Spargo has to crumb in the pocket, using Van DB off bench.

Hard to know what to make of JLT form, seemed haphazard and defence pretty loose. Be great to see Viney back in, and Melksham is a key part of forward line functioning properly.

Can’t wait for the 23rd!

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, D4Life said:

Very good side.

Agree coaches will go OMac ahead of Frost, ANB instead of Stretch. Spargo has to crumb in the pocket, using Van DB off bench.

Hard to know what to make of JLT form, seemed haphazard and defence pretty loose. Be great to see Viney back in, and Melksham is a key part of forward line functioning properly.

Can’t wait for the 23rd!

Melksham holds our forward line together. He's our best forward. 

ANB will be in, hes defence frist which we need. Our game plan is run and gun attack, we need players who want to defence, cause we have players that dont. 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, Dippy said:

Melksham holds our forward line together. He's our best forward. 

ANB will be in, hes defence frist which we need. Our game plan is run and gun attack, we need players who want to defence, cause we have players that dont. 

What does that even mean? Makes no sense at all.

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

What does that even mean? Makes no sense at all.

anb is a tackler and cracks in hard. I like him in the team. he is a good combination of speed and endurance. I dont care if he doesnt get 20 touches a game. like vandenberg, he is there to harass. plus anb hits the scoreboard too so I don't get the anb hate. 

ever since watts, I just wanted guys that would crack in and anb does that. if we want to talk about skill execution let's look at omac and jordan lewis

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Don't mind that side in the OP and I too would have Frost over OMac. Only change I would make is I would go ANB over Stretch. Spargo's place in the side also a question mark, but I'm happy for him to have first crack at it.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

anb is a tackler and cracks in hard. I like him in the team. he is a good combination of speed and endurance. I dont care if he doesnt get 20 touches a game. like vandenberg, he is there to harass. plus anb hits the scoreboard too so I don't get the anb hate. 

ever since watts, I just wanted guys that would crack in and anb does that. if we want to talk about skill execution let's look at omac and jordan lewis

ANB is an ordinary footballer to put it nicely. He [censored] himself when the heat goes up and just jams the ball onto his foot without any awareness around him. I have also never seen a footballer loses his feet and goes to ground way too often like he does. 

He is slow in the mind in terms of football intellectual.

I am also not sure what speed you are talking about? Jayden Hunt has speed, ANB doesn't.

Unfortunately coaches will pick him because he does pressure acts and tackles... the quicker we find an upgraded and better version the sooner he is out of the side.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Best case scenario with injuries and suspensions.

FB: Jetta May Hibberd

HB: Lewis Frost Salem

Centre: Brayshaw Oliver Jones

HF: Petracca Weideman Fritsch

FF: Melksham T. McDonald vandenBerg

Foll: Gawn Viney Harmes

Int: Hunt J. Smith Stretch Spargo

Overall a pretty strong side on paper, but can’t afford any more injuries.

The coaches will probably go with O. McDonald over Frost, I’d go with Frost because we are a slow team and need all the pace we can get.

ANB will also probably play even though he shouldn’t.

No crumbing forwards is a huge issue, Spargo on a bench even though yesterday he was awful we have no other options with Garlett injured.

 

FB: Jetta  May  Hibberd

HB: Lewis  OMc  Salem

Centre: Harmes  Brayshaw  Jones

Foll: Gawn  Oliver  Viney

HF: Petracca  TMc  Fritsch

FF: Melksham  Weideman  jSmith

 

Int:  ANB  Spargo  AVB  Frost

Emerg:  cWag  the Sparrow  Hunt  Stretch 

Edited by DV8
  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Werridee?

  • Like 3
  • Haha 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

One thing we need to develop is a settled side.

Early last year and in 2017 we had a revolving two or three players that would go up or down from Casey depending on form.

Unfortunately there seems to be a high chance of that repeating itself over the next few weeks.

Stretch and Hunt haven't really done enough to press for senior selection but many have them in the side. If Viney doesn't play we could even see Maynard again.

Say what you like about the JLT games but none of the fringe really demanded a spot.

Of those first three games I would happily take two wins out of three.

Make no mistake this is our window and we have to make it count.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Dippy said:

Melksham holds our forward line together. He's our best forward. 

ANB will be in, hes defence frist which we need. Our game plan is run and gun attack, we need players who want to defence, cause we have players that dont. 

this is absolutely brilliant. 

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

ANB is an ordinary footballer to put it nicely. He [censored] himself when the heat goes up and just jams the ball onto his foot without any awareness around him. I have also never seen a footballer loses his feet and goes to ground way too often like he does. 

He is slow in the mind in terms of football intellectual.

I am also not sure what speed you are talking about? Jayden Hunt has speed, ANB doesn't.

Unfortunately coaches will pick him because he does pressure acts and tackles... the quicker we find an upgraded and better version the sooner he is out of the side.

Agree with this.  Unfortunately despite his good attributes - high effort, endurance, great clubman - he has major deficiencies.   He doesn't crack in, he takes circular approaches to the football and to his opponent so he very rarely ever bodylines the ball or the man to put himself in danger.  He is actually one of the softest players in the side.  He is poor overhead and not a one touch footballer or a good user by foot.  What he does OK is create an outnumber to be able to lock the ball in  He is clearly instructed to take on a under 12s approach whereby he just chases the ball to add number to the contest and he does that very well to lock the ball in.  This is where his tackle stats come from.  Unfortunately, the Eagles cruelly exposed this tactic in the first quarter of the preliminary final.  

 

 

 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 minutes ago, goodoil said:

Agree with this.  Unfortunately despite his good attributes - high effort, endurance, great clubman - he has major deficiencies.   He doesn't crack in, he takes circular approaches to the football and to his opponent so he very rarely ever bodylines the ball or the man to put himself in danger.  He is actually one of the softest players in the side.  He is poor overhead and not a one touch footballer or a good user by foot.  What he does OK is create an outnumber to be able to lock the ball in  He is clearly instructed to take on a under 12s approach whereby he just chases the ball to add number to the contest and he does that very well to lock the ball in.  This is where his tackle stats come from.  Unfortunately, the Eagles cruelly exposed this tactic in the first quarter of the preliminary final.  

 

 

 

This is well put and pretty much sums it up perfectly.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Let's be honest - the side that runs out in a fortnight will be very, very similar to the one that got rolled in Perth.  May will be the major inclusion, but I can't see any of the kids getting a run, while KK is still a few weeks away from being in the frame for selection.

That side made a Prelim, so I've got every faith that we can start off the year in good form.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)

Ins and outs from the high point of our season vs Geelong in the Elim final:

in - J Smith, Hunt

out - Tyson, Hannan

So pretty much the same side as that night and we kind of performed well that night wouldn’t you think?

Let’s not kid ourselves, May ain’t playing. The AFL are stamping bumps out of the game and we’d all be screaming for his suspension if he were still playing for GC and we were coming up against them.

 

Edited by Bring-Back-Powell

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Kyle Chandler a wildcard selection. Excellent yesterday. Kicked two, gave away three, hit the post twice. Quick, aggressive tackler and lovely left foot. What we need.

  • Like 3
  • Love 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)

i don't think he's really done anything special, but i get the feeling that hore will definitely be a part of the side

at this stage, may will play as he has not been suspended...same as with goodwin saying that harmes will play, you have to presume he'll play

i'll go with the following changes from the 2018 prelim:

IN: may, hore, fritsch
OUT: frost, hannan, tyson

B: Jetta - May - Hore
HB: Lewis - O Mac - Hibberd
😄 Salem - Brayshaw - Fritsch
HF: Petracca - T Mac - vandenBerg
F: Melksham - Weideman - Spargo
Foll: Gawn - Oliver - Harmes
I/c: Jones - Viney - Neal-Bullen - J Smith
Emerg: Stretch - Frost - Hunt - Kielty

obviously if may is suspended then frost comes in

i worry about how underdone we look, both from a fitness as well as a cohesiveness point of view

Edited by whatwhatsaywhat

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I agree ANB shouldn't play but probably will.  Too often ANB's turnovers kill momentum but he seems to be a coaches favourite so will play until someone consistently does his defensive role better and who has better disposal. 

Tbh I don't think Stretch warrants a game.  Doesn't do enough defensive work and is usually slow in disposing of the ball.  I put this down to not thinking fast enough and maybe lack of confidence in his decision making and his disposal skills. 

So I would say ANB lines up instead of Stretch.

Anyone know how Tom Sparrow went yesterday?  Any room for him in round 1?

I love ANB & Stretch but two completely different players & I understand, two of the hardest defensively working players on the list. You don't run 15 km's plus every game & 'not work hard enough'....rediculous comment LH. Stretch has come off an 8 month foot injury, so prepared to throw him some confidence rope, while others throw him under the bus. Also would have thought that 10 marks yesterday & the highest on the ground, is testament to his work rate.

Here are the efficiency stats from yesterday for some of the lads pushing for round 1:

ANB 56%, Hunt 62%, Spargo 73%, Stretch 79% & just for some comparisons Brayshaw 62%, Petracca 70% & Fritsch 64%.

ANB & Spargo play for me but not because of efficiency, cos they kick goals & defensive pressure is great, especially ANB. Spargo looked a little out of his depth & may find a round 1 game line ball. Stretch misses but more so because of game time fitness from a long lay off. Hunt probably gets a gig because of one thing....his pace & unfortunately no room for him in the forward line.....more value in defensive if he can hit his targets. Sparrow not yet but at some stage during first half of year.

Love to see JKH come back too, as it looked like he was in for a good year. (77% eff last week)

 

 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, Stretch Johnson said:

I think we are going to we might lose a few we might expect to win early in the season.

I'm tempering my expectations and will be very happy winning 50% to the half way mark with no injuries.

New personnel, the structural changes due to the 666 rule and having key players underdone might see us stall out of the blocks a bit.  

I also see the form of a few in the lower tier as a bit of a worry.

I would love to be wrong.

 

I think you're spot on, mate. I reckon we'll struggle early on. I just hope it doesn't cost us a top 6 spot and/or a top 4 spot.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If Casey have another practice match next week do any of Jones, Melksham, Viney (depending on how he’s pulled up) get given a run again? I’m not suggesting they should, only curious to see if they need more minutes.

I remember Hannan getting a Round 1 game in 2017 on the back of only one Casey scratch match the week prior to the opener that year. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)

Huge doubt on Viney re fitness

May is in Strife I feel

Stretch , Keilty, JKH ( even if fit not up to it)

Oscar is too slow

Lewis game has gone past him

I would like to see

B Nev May Hibberd

HB Fritch Frost Salem

C Hunt Brayshaw Jones

HF  Petracca Weeds Melksham

F Smith Tommy Hannan

R  Maxxy Clarry Harmes ( if fit)

Inter Spargo Viney Chandler Hore

Edited by picket fence

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Social Media

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles

    OVERPOWERED by George on the Outer

    If there was ever a prime example of a team of players not ready for the new football season it was Melbourne in the opening round of 2019.   Throughout the field there was just too much evidence of players who haven’t had sufficient pre-season or players who ordinarily wouldn’t have even graced the field at this early stage.   The Demons also got a lesson on selection with Port Adelaide showing that two ruckmen on the field is an essential for this season.  It was a lesson that should

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    THE WELCOME GAME by Whispering Jack

    The Melbourne Football Club has moved forward in leaps and bounds since it last met Port Adelaide in a totally forgettable (for Demon fans) season opener on the MCG.  That game, played on Sunday, 31 March, 2013 before a crowd of 22,924, was supposed to be a close encounter between two of the competition’s lesser lights from the previous season when the Power had finished 14th and the Demons 16th (ahead only of AFL newbies Gold Coast and GWS). It turned into a slaughter with Port taking the

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    THE WALKING WOUNDED by Paddy Gosch

    Forget the fact that Melbourne narrowly missed out on getting the four JLT points on offer for a second consecutive week and the blow to the ego of a supposed top four contender losing ... well almost at home ... to a team that has recently dwelt in the AFL cellar and won a mere five games in 2018. The things that emerged from the horror final JLT outing was that the Demons are a long way from being prepared to take on the rigours of a long tough season in which they have one of the hardest fixt

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT by Paddy Gosch

    The Demons have named a star studded line up in it’s final practice match before the season proper. They take on the emerging Brisbane Lions out at Casey which is the second of three matches at the ground on Saturday. Many of the Dees best 22 have been recalled including Vice Captains Max Gawn and Neville Jetta whilst Captains Nathan Jones and Jack Viney will play restricted minutes in the VFL curtain raiser. Former Gold Coast co-captain Steven May will play his first official game for Melb

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    HIT OUT by Paddy Gosch

    As far as preseason hit outs go, the Demons’ first JLT Community Series fixture against the Tigers in the blistering heat at Shepparton, was instructive of a number of things but not really conclusive as to how each team will fare in the regular season against the competition's big guns (which includes against each other). That’s the way these practice match hit outs go. Neither of the teams was at full strength, particularly Melbourne but if you were looking for the reason for the 12 point

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    HOT OUT OF THE CITY by Paddy Gosch

    The Dees travel out of the city for game one of two JLT Community Series practice matches before the season proper. Our first match takes us to the floodplains of the Goldburn River in Northern Victoria to the city of Shepparton. We take on the Tigers for the first of at least 3 encounters with the 2017 Premiers this year. The game will be played in scorching temperatures so expect plenty of rotations, ice vests, fans running overtime and extra water carriers. The Demons are coming off a wi

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    GAME, SET & SCRATCH by Paddy Gosch

    I always believe in starting off any report by accentuating the positive and in that regard, as at the time of writing, the Demons have not reported any injuries so that’s my major positive from today’s practice game v the Magpies (albeit that we know the club is somewhat lax in reporting these things so my best wishes go out if any of today’s participants are in intensive care at the Alfred).  Another positive was that Razor Ray performed his umpiring duties admirably which is more than I

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    SCRATCH by Paddy Gosch

    The Demons are set to take on the old enemy Collingwood in a good old fashioned Scratch Match on Friday Morning. It is unknown what form the match will take, how many quarters there will be, their length, the amount of rotations or even whether they'll keep score. One thing we do know for sure is that both coaching staffs will be keeping their cards close to their chests to ensure neither will glean too much from their competition. The Dees will likely be without some of their stars as Tom

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    IMAGINE by Whispering Jack

    The Demons made their official return to the training track for 2019 on a sunny Saturday morning at Goschs Paddock with most of the interest initially centred on a small patch of ground in one of the pockets where the rehab group was going through the paces. Some good pieces of news on that score. The  rehab group is considerably smaller than it was prior to the Christmas break with Christian Petracca (knee), James Harmes (shoulder), Jayden Hunt (shoulder), Neville Jetta (shoulder), Oscar M

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

×
×
  • Create New...