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7 minutes ago, ProDee said:

How can he prove my eyes "wrong" ?

It's up to him if he changes his behaviours.

Of course its up to Jeff. You had claimed he was finished ("Garlett is finished"). While i was extremely disappointed in Jeff's form last season, i would never make god like statements that a player was finished - i'd leave that to the selectors. I'd be extremely happy if he lifted his game to a level that makes him a best 22 selection. I simply asked if you'd be happy if he proved you wrong this season, that's all.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Of course its up to Jeff. You had claimed he was finished ("Garlett is finished"). While i was extremely disappointed in Jeff's form last season, i would never make god like statements that a player was finished - i'd leave that to the selectors. I'd be extremely happy if he lifted his game to a level that makes him a best 22 selection. I simply asked if you'd be happy if he proved you wrong this season, that's all.

I'll answer your feeble question this way.

I want to win a flag.  Any player that proves they deserve a spot in the best 22, or even if they're no longer best 22, but contribute meaningfully when/if they get an opportunity, please me.

I don't think Garlett will be getting the chance to please me too often.

 

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6 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Of course its up to Jeff. You had claimed he was finished ("Garlett is finished"). While i was extremely disappointed in Jeff's form last season, i would never make god like statements that a player was finished - i'd leave that to the selectors. I'd be extremely happy if he lifted his game to a level that makes him a best 22 selection. I simply asked if you'd be happy if he proved you wrong this season, that's all.

 

 

@Neil Crompton - serious question.

Why do other 'unknown entities' opinions of players matter to you?

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1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

I aiways find it funny at training, some wear the hats but backwards, obviously not to keep the sun out of eyes, why bother?

Clarry, Baker and Frost wear a family tub of sunscreen between them

To keep the sweat off their brow? 

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1 hour ago, faultydet said:

Inilagay ko ang tekstong iyon sa google translate, at hindi ito naiintindihan.
Maaari mo bang ipaliwanag sa wikang ingles?

That probably speaks to the low quality of my French, I'm afraid

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1 hour ago, ProDee said:

I'll answer your feeble question this way.

I want to win a flag.  Any player that proves they deserve a spot in the best 22, or even if they're no longer best 22, but contribute meaningfully when/if they get an opportunity, please me.

I don't think Garlett will be getting the chance to please me too often.

 

Honestly I think we're missing a creative small forward who can make goals out of nothing. Sure we had melksham, spargo and neal bulleen in there but garlett is the best reader of the play.

Saying is he's not a goodwin type player is not true as well. He was in the team at the start of the season and was dropped due to poor form. He didnt light it up at casey but was still recalled which shows goodwin rates him. I think we can all admit that garlett had a poor season and he hasnt had the same standards that he has brought to mfc every year since he joined.

If garlett can recapture his early 2017 form where he was on track for a 50 goal season. It wont be a question of whether he can please you enough to make the melbourne team but more a question whether he can make the AA team. 

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9 minutes ago, Deefiant said:

Honestly I think we're missing a creative small forward who can make goals out of nothing. Sure we had melksham, spargo and neal bulleen in there but garlett is the best reader of the play.

Saying is he's not a goodwin type player is not true as well. He was in the team at the start of the season and was dropped due to poor form. He didnt light it up at casey but was still recalled which shows goodwin rates him.

If garlett can recapture his early 2017 form where he was on track for a 50 goal season. It wont be a question of whether he can please you enough to make the melbourne team but more a question whether he can make the AA team. 

Gee thanks.

I'm somewhat aware of a player closer to 200 games than 150.  I'm also aware he's kicked 40 goals, or more, 4 odd times.  I've also seen him play for Melbourne.

We've moved past a very soft player that doesn't contribute Goodwin-style, which is why he was dropped.

What we put up with in the past we no longer will.  Clue - this bit is important.

If he wants to have a complete recalibration of his mind as he confronts his football mortality then GREAT.

It will "please" me.  I won't be holding my breath.

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If Jeffy is playing a 40+ goal per season game next year, he will be in and Goody will find a way to cover for him if necessary.

A firing Jeffy will take away a first or second ranked defender from many contests lest he sneak away and find a path to scoring.

A Jeffy who can't find the ball will release a first or second ranked defender to place pressure on other forwards.

Spargs and nibbles contribute in other ways beyond scoring as defensive forwards and creating linking plays. With Jeffy it is all or nothing. A simple equation - score and you're in, fail to score and you're out.

We should know early in the season.

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4 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

So assume now Tyson and Hogan are gone, Omac is progressing,

 Garlett is going to be whipping boy de jour this year

The conditions at North Port Oval for the prelim were atrocious, yet Garlett kicked the sealer, let's not let facts interfere yet again

I am not a Garlett defender, he had a poor year last year, we know, he knows, working his [censored] off so as not to repeat it

Yes, those 11 disposals and 1 tackle in the prelim were spectacular, the next week, one of the poorest performances possible by an experienced AFL player in a VFL game. That's a more realistic snapshot than one VFL goal or one training sidestep.

Personally, I'd be thrilled if Spargo played every game and kept Garlett out of the senior side. Reward effort. I don't like players that regularly pick and choose when to play competitive footy. The days of cutting slack to guys like Garlett and Watts are thankfully over. 

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4 hours ago, Deeoldfart said:

If I'm not mistaken, Fritta has been near the front in many of the running drill pics that I've seen this pre season.  I don't remember that of him last year, and if he has added that string to his bow, he will be a weapon and a half on the wing.

Totally agree. A great first year playing out of his comfort zone down back.

Can't wait to see him wing or half forward. Reminds me so much of a Brad Greene

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2 minutes ago, Brownie said:

Totally agree. A great first year playing out of his comfort zone down back.

Can't wait to see him wing or half forward. Reminds me so much of a Brad Greene

Potentially a better player than Brad with more strings to his game.

Brad played some good games but he played plenty of poor ones as well. 

Lets hope that Fritta does not get a dose of second year blues. 

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19 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Yes, those 11 disposals and 1 tackle in the prelim were spectacular, the next week, one of the poorest performances possible by an experienced AFL player in a VFL game. That's a more realistic snapshot than one VFL goal or one training sidestep.

Personally, I'd be thrilled if Spargo played every game and kept Garlett out of the senior side. Reward effort. I don't like players that regularly pick and choose when to play competitive footy. The days of cutting slack to guys like Garlett and Watts are thankfully over. 

It was in answer to a post saying Garlett needs perfect conditions to thrive, a la Sam Pang, but you can always take it out of context to make your point

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28 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

It was in answer to a post saying Garlett needs perfect conditions to thrive, a la Sam Pang, but you can always take it out of context to make your point

?????

Garlett struggles to thrive at VFL level, let alone in the seniors. 11 disp in the wet is hardly thriving. One goal proves nadda, but you can always take it out of context to make your point 

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7 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

?????

Garlett struggles to thrive at VFL level, let alone in the seniors. 11 disp in the wet is hardly thriving. One goal proves nadda, but you can always take it out of context to make your point 

I take it you weren't at North Port oval on that day, I was, to actually get a clean possession was a bonus

The best player for Casey that day was JKH, another whipping.boy

Nobody is disagreeing he had a poor season and went missing in the Grand Final, a state in which he wasn't alone

They lost the Grand Final because the superior ruck and midfield finally told, not because Jeff Garlett and others had a poor game

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I just find it sad that so many are still so bitter. We are such a decent well rounded side now that a guy of Jeffy’s natural ability couldn’t break in. That’s the headline here kids, the rest is semantics. 

 

That is one beautiful headline to me

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1 minute ago, Satyriconhome said:

I take it you weren't at North Port oval on that day, I was, to actually get a clean possession was a bonus

The best player for Casey that day was JKH, another whipping.boy

Nobody is disagreeing he had a poor season and went missing in the Grand Final, a state in which he wasn't alone

They lost the Grand Final because the superior ruck and midfield finally told, not because Jeff Garlett and others had a poor game

Irrelevant. 

He's an experienced AFL player and his shocker contributed towards the GF loss. I won't be an apologist anymore for pea hearts. Suit yourself.

I'll leave you to keep going.

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3 minutes ago, MrReims said:

I just find it sad that so many are still so bitter. We are such a decent well rounded side now that a guy of Jeffy’s natural ability couldn’t break in. That’s the headline here kids, the rest is semantics. 

 

That is one beautiful headline to me

I don't think the discussion comes from bitterness.  I think it comes from supporters understanding the value Jeffy can bring to the side when he's in form, but also lamenting the fact that he hasn't gotten near it for a while now.  His form at VFL level was poor and he didn't even look like getting a recall, even though we were screaming out for someone to sit at the feet of our tall forwards.

I'd love to see him get back to his 40 goal a season form, but as ProDee mentioned earlier, there is no room in our side for soft small forwards who don't chase and don't work hard enough.  If Jeff wants to survive past 2019 then he'll have to change.

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3 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

I take it you weren't at North Port oval on that day, I was, to actually get a clean possession was a bonus

The best player for Casey that day was JKH, another whipping.boy

Nobody is disagreeing he had a poor season and went missing in the Grand Final, a state in which he wasn't alone

They lost the Grand Final because the superior ruck and midfield finally told, not because Jeff Garlett and others had a poor game

Fair enough Saty. 

The problem is that JG has history, has form, has a footy CV. 

Im sure we all hope that he has a terrific year because JG at his best is good for the team. 

However he will have to become the footballer he’s never been .....consistent over the whole season.  He has to bring consistency in attitude and application. In short become the footballer he has promised to be but never has. 

But he’s back, apparently fit and displaying a good attitude. He needs to be as he is playing for his career. 

He will need to be showing form early so he gets selection. If he starts at Casey and can’t crack the Seniors, I suspect his form and interest will go out the window and it will be all over red rover. 

I hope he surprises us all. 

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48 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

I take it you weren't at North Port oval on that day, I was, to actually get a clean possession was a bonus

The best player for Casey that day was JKH, another whipping.boy

Nobody is disagreeing he had a poor season and went missing in the Grand Final, a state in which he wasn't alone

They lost the Grand Final because the superior ruck and midfield finally told, not because Jeff Garlett and others had a poor game

I agree but Garlett is a surplus now if he plays well great but he is replaceable a few years ago a 40 goal forward wasn't. Hannan, Fritsch and Spargo can replace him and not forgetting the new recruits in Bedford and Chandler.

I'm going on Friday will most of the players be there or will it be like Wednesday?

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8 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

I agree but Garlett is a surplus now if he plays well great but he is replaceable a few years ago a 40 goal forward wasn't. Hannan, Fritsch and Spargo can replace him and not forgetting the new recruits in Bedford and Chandler.

I'm going on Friday will most of the players be there or will it be like Wednesday?

What is like Wednesday? Is it between Shrove Tuesday & Maundy Thursday?

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9 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

I'm going on Friday will most of the players be there or will it be like Wednesday?

I may be there on Friday too.

I believe Wednesdays are "closed sessions" or more practically an unadvertised sessions on a publicly open and accessible field. According to Saty these are usually "craft work" sessions which I assume has the players working on their specific areas as well as the usual running and fitness work. Based on the photos from this past Wednesday (yesterday) there were a couple players missing, namely Max and May, as they went to Alice Springs, I'm assuming for some type of promotion for our games in the NT. I'm sure we'll see the promos/articles on that soon. Most other players were there. It's safe to assume the majority of players will be in attendance on Friday's advertised session.

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10 hours ago, hemingway said:

 

The problem is that JG has history, has form, has a footy CV. 

However he will have to become the footballer he’s never been .....consistent over the whole season.  He has to bring consistency in attitude and application. In short become the footballer he has promised to be but never has. 

 

How true that is, on both counts.

Jeff's other major problem is that the game has changed.  And that is why he needs to become the footballer he NEVER has been. 

Clubs  changed their defensive structures last year, and the small "out the back" type players ( Garlett, Puopolo, Betts, Rohan etc) dropped off with their goal output.  So unless these players bring a defensive side to the game, in the same manner as Rioli ( RIchmond) and Butler( Richmond) there is no role for them to play. 

Betts and Puopolo have a regular slot in their sides.  No defensive side....Rohan traded, Menzel traded, Garlett VFL. 

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Anyone know where training might be/ times next monday? coming from interstate and a super rare chance to get there. 

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29 minutes ago, Demonland said:

I may be there on Friday too.

I believe Wednesdays are "closed sessions" or more practically an unadvertised sessions on a publicly open and accessible field. According to Saty these are usually "craft work" sessions which I assume has the players working on their specific areas as well as the usual running and fitness work. Based on the photos from this past Wednesday (yesterday) there were a couple players missing, namely Max and May, as they went to Alice Springs, I'm assuming for some type of promotion for our games in the NT. I'm sure we'll see the promos/articles on that soon. Most other players were there. It's safe to assume the majority of players will be in attendance on Friday's advertised session.

To steal from Denis Cometti, it looks like they travelled alphabetically.

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2 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

How true that is, on both counts.

Jeff's other major problem is that the game has changed.  And that is why he needs to become the footballer he NEVER has been. 

Clubs  changed their defensive structures last year, and the small "out the back" type players ( Garlett, Puopolo, Betts, Rohan etc) dropped off with their goal output.  So unless these players bring a defensive side to the game, in the same manner as Rioli ( RIchmond) and Butler( Richmond) there is no role for them to play. 

Betts and Puopolo have a regular slot in their sides.  No defensive side....Rohan traded, Menzel traded, Garlett VFL. 

Bit rough calling Puopolo an out the back player.  But your point is spot on.  Forwards who can’t create turnovers are now a liability.  If Jeff wants to play 22 games he doesn’t need 40 goals, he needs 100 tackles.  He has never done that in a season and hasn’t been close since his first year at Melbourne.  Puopolo and Rioli pretty much did it every year at Hawthorn.  Jeff goes into this year a bit like Bugg went into 2018.  He’s on his absolute last chance.   One poor defensive game and that is his career done.

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    THAT WAS THE YEAR THAT WAS by Whispering Jack

    Melbourne atoned for the heartbreak of its frustrating finish to the 2017 season by, at long last, making the finals and then disposed of two highly credentialed and experienced teams in Geelong and Hawthorn before it capitulated meekly to eventual premier West Coast in the Preliminary Final in Perth. The club’s progression has been forward and upward since it finished 2013 with two wins and appointed Paul Roos as coach. The number has increased to four, seven, 10, 12, and now 14 games. The Demons made the finals for the first time in a dozen years and are now tracking for their first premiership in five and a half decades.
     
    In the women’s game, the club’s second season of AFLW competition was dogged throughout by inaccuracy in front of goal causing it to again just miss out on grand final honours finishing third after losing 4.7.31 to 5.3.33 to rivals and eventual premiers, the Western Bulldogs in the final round. The Demons were well led by Daisy Pearce and had a star player in  Karen Paxman. They will miss their skipper Pearce, who will be out of the forthcoming season on maternity leave - a first for the womens competition. The Demons started their men’s campaign with a win in their section of the novelty AFLX competition, then won their two JLT  Community Series games against North Melbourne in Hobart and St Kilda at Casey Fields, the latter in unconvincing fashion after building a big lead early.  The opening round AFL match against Geelong resulted in a disappointing loss after a missed shot from Max Gawn in the final thirty seconds ceded a 3 point loss. The club won its next two matches, again unconvincingly although their round 3 win against North Melbourne broke a long run of defeats going back over more than a decade. A poor game against Hawthorn and a final term collapse on Anzac Day Eve against the Tigers had Melbourne down with a 2 - 3 record.  The revival began against Essendon and continued over the ensuing weeks as the Demons stretched their winning run to six games culminating with big wins against Carlton and Adelaide at Alice Springs and a solid victory over the Bulldogs. At the halfway mark of the season they were challenging for a top four spot on 8 wins and 3 defeats. The improvement had come from the return of injured pair Tom McDonald and Angus Brayshaw, the dominance of Max Gawn in the ruck and the strong form of Clayton Oliver and the young midfield. Jesse Hogan was consistently in the goals. Jake Lever who had taken a while to get his bearings but was solid during the six game winning spree sustained an ACL injury in round 11 and it took a while for the defence to recover from his loss, regroup and consolidate. In the interim, the experimentation in this area was partly the reason for a poor month that saw a  three-game losing streak including a disappointing loss to lowly St. Kilda. Earlier defeats to Collingwood on Queens Birthday and away to Port Adelaide might have been expected but the  loss to the Saints hit hard and possibly cost the team the coveted double chance.  Melbourne might have lost its star recruit, Lever, in midseason but the club did unearth two young players in Bailey Fritsch and Charlie Spargo who were both drafted in the 30s and established themselves as regulars for much of the year although they understandably ran out of steam a little at the end of the season. The Demons regrouped after the slump. The back line steadied when Sam Frost returned to help the improving Oscar McDonald in a key defensive role but, after returning to the winning list against the Dockers in Darwin and the Bulldogs at the MCG, they suffered some disappointing losses involving an after-the-siren goal to Zach Tuohy in the return game against Geelong and a home upset against   Sydney after some shocking inaccuracy in the first quarter and a half kept the Swans in the game. The injuries were mounting and the loss of Hogan at that point in time appeared devastating to a team that had yet to record a win against a top eight side. All that changed dramatically over the next four games starting with the Eagles in Perth and followed with a big win over the Giants that saw Melbourne finish in fifth place with a percentage of 131%. Then followed the emotion of a return to finals football and sound victories against seasoned playoff teams in Geelong and Hawthorn in front of crowds that gave majority support to the perennial underdog buoyed by the return from injury of co-skipper Jack Viney and the emergence at last of young key forward Sam Weideman who more than amply filled Hogan’s shoes.  Not for the first time in the modern history of the club, the wall was hit out west. The Demons looked spent in the early moments of their preliminary final in Perth against West Coast and much like last year’s lapse at the final hurdle against Collingwood, this one game is likely to inhabit the players’ collective memory over the summer and into the new season. Many players excelled and grew in 2018 and the depth of the club revealed itself when injuries struck. Max Gawn won the ‘Bluey’ Truscott’ medal and led an emerging midfield including the co-skippers Nathan Jones and Viney, a resurgent Angus Brayshaw (3rd in the Brownlow), Christian Petracca and Christian Salem and the incredibly improved James Harmes who stepped up several levels in the course of a season. The forward line was the best in the competition as many avenues were opened up to goals, breaking down only in that last final. The disappointment of that performance will surely act as a spur for even further improvement in 2019. That improvement is expected to come from a defence bolstered by the recruitment of former Gold Coast skipper Steven May and the expected return of Jake Lever in the first month or so of the season. They join some solid performers in defence including Michael Hibberd and the indefatigable Neville Jetta - a star both on and off the field. The Demons also picked up a handy defender from the Suns in Kade Kolodjashnij and a big ruck back up for All-Australian ruckman Gawn in Braydon Preuss. The club drafted a bevy of youngsters who will all take time to develop at Casey. Melbourne farewelled Jesse Hogan, Dom Tyson and Dean Kent to other clubs via trades and Tom Bugg found a new home through the draft. Former club champion Bernie Vince retired late in the season after a meritorious 100 game career at his second club. Vince will not be entirely lost to the Demons as he has returned to the club in a part-time leadership and ambassadorial role for 2019.  The loss that will hurt deeply is that of retiring CEO Peter Jackson who has overseen the six year progression from a team that won only two games in 2013 to become a preliminary finalist in 2018. Gary Pert has stepped into the breach to finish the task of leading the club to the promised land and a premiership.

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    DRAFT STORY: THE BYSTANDERS by Whispering Jack

    It was an eerie feeling, like floating on air high above the events taking place on the ground below. This was the New Draft, a two day festival of little importance to Melbourne supporters on the first night and seemingly, of little consequence on the following day. It was as if we were the bystanders of the 2018 AFL National Draft. From the time the Demons traded away their first round selection in this year’s event as part of the deal to secure Jake Lever more than 12 months ago, it was always likely to turn out this way. A little over a month ago, the club held picks 36, 46, 54, 62 and 65 which, once transposed into a world of potential priority picks and father-son and academy bidders, meant that its first choice would be pushing close to a pick near number fifty. It was akin to leaving you standing three city blocks away from Marvel Stadium and well outside the Jack Lukosious zone in draft night calculations. Even when the trades improved things somewhat marginally to a starting point of 23 and 28 (eventually 27 and 33), it meant you had just moved from William Street to King Street but the entrance to the venue was still on the distant horizon. It was probably just as well that we were that far away because opening night was excruciatingly painful, producing a clumsy and almost unwatchable production compared with the American counterparts in the NFL and NBA which it shamelessly sought to emulate. Gillon McLachlan produced a fitting highlight when he pounced onto centre stage only to discover he had nothing to announce despite the sounding of all the bells and whistles but for us - nothing. Not even the prospect of a live trade managed to keep us in the game.  When the show was over, Sam Walsh, the precocious Croweaters, the King brothers (we drafted the wrong big Max King a few years ago) and a bevy of others were gone. The Swans pulled a swifty trade to get a great deal for their next academy sensation and the Blues did nicely to steal the 2018 Morrish Medallist from the Tigers. Those who were previously uninformed of the new format were left baffled and confused that the Demons weren’t selecting on the night. By the rising of the sun on day two, we were virtually on the promenade at Marvel Stadium, hoping for a little action now that we were a matter of a few picks away from pole position. The AFL had sneakily changed the starting time from 10.00am to noon but even then we were hardly bashing down the doors to get in despite the dreary conditions outside. But when the draft restarted, we somehow remained the bystanders. The months (and for some, the years) of following potential draftees, the national championships, junior competitions, TAC Cup finals, draft combines, phantom drafts, power rankings, teams of the year and the late speculation all flashed past our eyes to produce ... on the face of it ... not a great deal. On top of that, there were no bolters, no All-Australian sliders who somehow mysteriously drifted into our laps, nor even any players finding their way to us from a list of so-called hidden gems” that was floating about. In the end, Melbourne took an inside midfielder in South Australian Tom Sparrow with pick 27 after making an unsuccessful bid for the Bulldog’s father-son prospect Rhylee West. Then came a real bolter in Oakleigh Charger James Jordon at 33, another South Australian, Aaron Nitschke, at 53 and a mature aged defender in Collingwood VFL’s Marty Hore with 56. If there was any icing on the cake, it came when the club was not required to bid for Next Generation Academy dasher Toby Bedford who was taken late at pick 75. The return to type came with the selection of Kade Chandler in the rookie draft. I should make it clear that this is not a criticism of the selection decisions but rather I’m pointing to the low profiles of those picked. As with any draft decision made, the proof of their value is never determined on the night but well down the track, often years into the future. The apparent left-of-centre approach to the draft may well pay dividends in the future for a club with a young team on the ascent  - the players selected are not shrinking violets. They are all aggressive ball-winners known for their relentless attack on the football. In that respect, none of them are bystanders.

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    THE KID - A TRIBUTE TO COLIN by Whispering Jack

    There are some truly endearing memories that I have of the Kid, one or two of them off the ground and others on the field of play. It seemed to me that at every club function I attended, one of the constants was the sight of the much-loved Colin Sylvia, face smiling and friendly, surrounded by admirers, young and old, male and female. There was the promotional clip (Foxtel, I think) with Colin in the locker room beside skipper David Neitz draped in towels and joking. It was as if, from the very beginning, the new boy on the block was being typecast as a larrikin, albeit a lovable one who, in our hopes, would one day  become a hero. And that was the problem for the recruit from Merbein which, during my childhood produced another star Demon in Hassa Mann, a shy country lad who went on to captain the club, played in a few premierships and was a solid citizen off the field. The new kid from Merbein simply kept getting into trouble.  There were problems with a girlfriend, he broke team curfews, missed the odd recovery session, left the scene of a car accident (it’s unclear if he was the driver). He was often in the wrong place and the wrong condition at the wrong time but we all still loved him. After all, he was going to be our hero. On the field, he was something else. The first time I saw him was in a practice match for Melbourne’s then affiliate Sandringham, at the Beach Road Oval, ironically named after another blond larrikan Trevor Barker who also passed at far too young and age but from cancer. There was one brief moment that defined Sylvia’s potential as a contender when he gathered the ball near the centre, swiveled past an opponent and barreled the ball from 70 metres out. Years later when I recalled that piece of play with him at a club best and fairest night, he laughed and said he remembered it but thought the kick was “from closer to 80 metres out”. It took a year or so to get his career going and it built slowly but surely within a few years during which time he grew in stature to the point that it wasn’t necessary to call him by his surname. He was Colin and we loved him. The tough break for Colin was that Melbourne went into decline just as he was approaching his prime. Most supporters would agree that his best game came on Sunday, 24 May, 2009 on the MCG in front of almost 40,000 fans against Hawthorn when he amassed 24 kicks, 13 handballs, 9 marks and 4 goals that were just not enough to get the Demons across the line.  He continued to play good football for the year despite the fact that the club was regularly accused of tanking its matches and again into 2010 but at around that time, the injuries in the form of groin and shoulder problems came, the team was performing miserably as the veterans left while other young saviours who were replacing them struggled. The contender was also struggling to live up to his potential status as a hero; he was failing and the fun had gone. After 157 games and 129 goals, the Kid departed for Fremantle at the end of 2013. Things didn’t work out in the West and, amid ongoing controversy about his attitude and behaviour under Ross Lyon, Colin managed six more games that were mostly unremarkable. Career over before his 29th birthday with life after football bringing further challenges for a young man who found retirement from the game at its top level a tough gig.  Colin was working to get his life on track when his car collided with another vehicle last Sunday afternoon at the intersection of Nineteenth Street and Benetook Avenue in the Mildura suburb of Irymple. He died on the scene and will be buried today. We loved him to death - our deepest sympathies go to his family. “I'm the kid who has this habit of dreaming
    Sometimes gets me in trouble too
    But the truth is I could no more stop dreaming
    Than I could make them all come true” - Buddy Mondlock  

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    THE TRADING CHRONICLES 2018 by Whispering Jack

    PART TWO - NO CHOICE There was a time before he even played a single game at AFL level that Jesse Hogan was regarded as the player who would lift Melbourne from the bottom of the ladder. He’s been at the club since he was selected in the 2012 mini-draft but circumstances caused him to wait two seasons before making his AFL debut. He achieved Rising Star status in 2015, kicked more than 40 goals in three of his four seasons, had his disappointments with injuries, illness and personal issues with the loss of his father and yet, Hogan the Saviour seemed forever absent for the club’s most triumphant moments.  Hogan is now a Docker after the Demons traded him for national draft picks 6 and 23 on the final day of the AFL's trade period. This is despite the fact that he was contracted to Melbourne for 2019 and would have earned good money. There’s no doubting his quality as a footballer but he wanted to go home and the likelihood remained high that he might be gone after another season filled with unwelcome distractions of an uncertain future at the club. And not for the first time. When expectations are high for the future after making it to a Preliminary Final, full commitment to the cause beyond the now is paramount. In the end, there was no choice. Moving on to the future, the three players introduced to the Melbourne Football Club  have the attributes of commitment, willingness to work hard and the ability to fill needs. Former Gold Coast co-captain Steven May, a hard-at-it defender has a five year contract. The skillful Kade Kolodjashnij who brings run and carry to the table and mature ruckman Braydon Preuss both join the club with three year deals.  There is no certainty in the business of sport but Melbourne appears to have done well in a trade period that also saw it upgrade its draft position to a point where it now has two picks in the 20s. There is still a lot to do at the draft table, some rookie upgrades and possible acquisition of delisted free agents to fill the eight vacant places on the club’s lists. Where does this all leave the Melbourne Football Club? Age journalist Peter Ryan summed up the Demons’ trade period in At a glance: Assessing each club's 2018 AFL trade period when he wrote  “At a glance: Going for the flag”. Of course, it’s too early to make a reasoned analysis of the trade period because the outcome is never determined in the moment. Time will tell for all clubs and in 2018 there were so many different agendas and strategies. There were clubs that used it to dump the burden of high salaries, some wanted better draft position while others aimed to fulfill certain needs. In the end 42 players changed clubs by way of trades but by draft time at the end of November, there will be many more new faces at every club. The completed trades - Trade Tracker

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    THE TRADING CHRONICLES 2018 by Whispering Jack

    PART ONE - BETWEEN RUCKS AND HARD PLACES Melbourne has been rather pragmatic in its approach to the off season Free Agency and Trade period. After methodically releasing a larger than usual number of players through delistings, it has also traded away a couple of others who it clearly regards as being surplus to the requirements of team focused on a top four finish in 2019 and to this date, acquired a big ruckman to accompany its All Australian Max Gawn in that campaign. The Demons’ lists have undergone a major refit since the final siren sounded on Preliminary Final day. At that point, we knew of the retirements of Harley Balic and Bernie Vince and soon after the announcements came of Tom Bugg, Dion Johnstone, Mitch King, Pat McKenna and Cam Pedersen and rookie Lachie Filipovic. On Friday, the trades of Dean Kent (to St Kilda) and Dom Tyson (North Melbourne) were signed off, bringing the number of departures to double figures.  The Kangaroos traded Brayden Preuss to the Demons to give Melbourne the competition’s most potent ruck combination.  If things were going well for Melbourne’s football manager Josh Mahoney, they certainly went sour with the news late on Friday that Fremantle had withdrawn its interest in securing forward Jesse Hogan by way of a trade. The decision threw the Demons’ plans of securing Gold Coast defender Steven May along with a raft of other potential trades depending on the outcome of those deals. The Dockers have been chasing WA native Hogan for some four years and last week they paraded him through their headquarters. After it was announced that Hogan had passed his medical, it was thought to be a formality that a trade would be arranged after the obligatory bargaining period.  Fremantle General Manager of Football, Peter Bell, just two weeks into the job, announced - “We have been undertaking a due diligence process as part of a possible trade to secure Jesse Hogan. “As part of that process, we have had discussions with Jesse, the player’s management and Melbourne. “While discussions were proceeding it became clear that what Melbourne would be seeking for a trade would not be possible for our club to meet. “As such, we have informed Melbourne and Jesse’s management that we will not be continuing further with the due diligence process.” This was Bell’s reaction to Melbourne’s refusal to accept his club’s offer of National Draft Pick 11 and a future second-round pick with the Demons expecting two early selections including # 5 that the Dockers would be expecting in a deal with Brisbane for Lachie Neale (Bell is reportedly expecting two first round picks). The reaction might have come as a surprise but it needs to be looked at in the context of what is happening at the very top at the Fremantle Football Club. In August, its list manager Brad Lloyd departed for Carlton and the task of dealing with the free agency and trading was taken over by CEO Steve Rosich in concert with Bell after his appointment. They are certainly doing things differently in a trade period during which all of the other clubs have been businesslike in their approach — the Freo pair’s dealings over Hogan, Rory Lobb, Neale and a clumsy approach to Geelong’s Tim Kelly who wants to go to the Eagles have raised scorn and disdain throughout the football fraternity and their own fans aren’t happy either! This has left Hogan back with the Demons for the time being as he plays out the final year of his contract in 2019 (unless the Dockers have a change of heart in the next few days). Mahoney has made it clear that the club is not in a position to follow up a trade for May without completing a deal for Hogan.  The bonus for the club however, is that it can go into the pre season with a quality key position forward approaching the prime of his career while the team is in the premiership window. Meanwhile, at the other end of the continent, the Dockers are likely to languish, living with a dysfunctional recruiting structure and scorned by the rest of the football community. Good luck with that! Docker shocker as Freo pull pin on Hogan pursuit This is the full list of trades after five days: • Reece Conca joined Fremantle as a free agent. The Tigers don't get any compensation.
    • Richmond signed Tom Lynch as a restricted free agent. Gold Coast opted not to match the offer. The Suns got pick No.3 as compensation.
    • Luke Dahlhaus joined Geelong as an unrestricted free agent. The Western Bulldogs got a round two pick as compensation (No.27).
    • Scott Lycett joined Port Adelaide as a restricted free agent after the Eagles decided not to match Port's offer. Port got pick 20 as compensation.
    • The Cats traded Lincoln McCarthy, pick 55 and pick 58 to the Lions. In return, the Lions sent over picks 43 and 61.
    • Richmond sent Corey Ellis, Anthony Miles and a future third round pick to the Suns for a future third round pick.
    • The Blues used one of their special assistant pre-draft picks to send Nathan Kreuger to Geelong in exchange for pick 43.
    • The Lions and the Suns did a pick swap. Brisbane ended up with 32, 41, 44 and 77. Gold Coast got 24, 58 and 79.
    • Mitch McGovern and a future third round pick made their way from Adelaide to Carlton. Carlton sent back Shane McAdam (their second pre-draft special assistance pick) and a future fifth round pick.
    • Sydney sent pick 13 to the Crows. In return, they got pick 40. They also got picks 26 and 28 from Carlton.
    • Jared Polec and Jasper Pittard moved to North Melbourne from Port Adelaide. Also sent over: pick 48. In return, Power received pick 11 and a future fourth round pick.
    • Sydney's Gary Rohan was traded to Geelong for pick 61.
    • The Swans sent pick 61 to North Melbourne in exchange for Ryan Clarke.
    • St Kilda traded Tom Hickey, pick 60 and a future fourth rounder to the Eagles. In return, the Saints got pick 39 and a future fourth round pick.
    • Alex Fasolo joined Carlton as an unrestricted free agent. Collingwood got pick 57 as compensation.
    • Gold Coast signed Josh Corbett (Werribee) and Chris Burgess ( West Adelaide) as two of their special assistance picks.
    • Port Adelaide and Fremantle swapped picks: Power got pick six and a future third round selection, and sent picks 11, 23, 30 and 49 to the Dockers.
    • Sydney Swans have traded Dan Hannebery and its Rd 2 selection, currently number 28 (on traded from Carlton) to St Kilda for its Rd 2 selection, currently selection number 39 (on traded from West Coast), and its Future Round Two Selection.
    • Melbourne have traded Dean Kent to St Kilda for its Rd 4 selection, currently selection number 65.
    • Melbourne have traded Dom Tyson to North Melbourne for Brayden Preuss and its Rd 4 selection, currently selection number 62 (on traded from the Sydney Swans).
    • GWS Giants have traded Will Setterfield and its Rd 4 (71), to Carlton for its Rd 3 (43), and Future Round Two Selection.

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    CHANGES 2018 by The Oracle

    PART 1 - UPHEAVAL AND CHANGE Every year, as soon as the grand final siren sounds, the 18 AFL clubs enter into a new season that lasts for two months and ends in the drafts. This is the time of transition and sometimes upheaval for the clubs as their lists change in the hope for each of them that they can regenerate their lists to the point where they can challenge for a premiership flag. The official proceedings start today with the opening of the restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period starts and on Monday, the NAB AFL Trade Period kicks off. The coming off season of change is looming large at the Melbourne Football Club in comparison with last year when the club farewelled only six senior list players (including one, Heritier Lumumba, who had retired before that season even began) and one rookie. Their replacements came via trades and the draft, leaving the 2018 Melbourne Football Club player list (with new players in italics) as follows - PRIMARY LIST: Oskar Baker Harley Balic Angus Brayshaw Tomas Bugg Bayley Fritsch Sam Frost Jeff Garlett Max Gawn Mitch Hannan James Harmes Michael Hibberd Jesse Hogan Jayden Hunt Neville Jetta Dion Johnstone Nathan Jones Jay Kennedy Harris Dean Kent Mitch King Jake Lever Jordan Lewis Oscar McDonald Tom McDonald Pat McKenna Jake Melksham Alex Neal-Bullen Clayton Oliver Cameron Pedersen Christian Petracca Harrison Petty Christian Salem Charlie Spargo Joel Smith Billy Stretch Dom Tyson Aaron vandenBerg Bernie Vince Jack Viney Josh Wagner Sam Weideman  ROOKIE LIST: CATEGORY A Lachlan Filipovic Declan Keilty Corey Maynard Tim Smith  As in the past, the process has been going on for months and even longer in the case of the assessment of younger talent. The 18 clubs have all been working feverishly looking for potential trades and for which some players on their lists are moved on.  The Demons have already added two Category B rookies who will shortly commence their apprenticeships at the club. The changes were being foreshadowed even before season’s end when two Demons - Harley Balic and Bernie Vince - had also announced their retirements.  The floodgates were opened almost as soon as the final siren sounded at Optus Stadium on Preliminary Final day. The first delistings included Tom Bugg, Mitch King, Pat McKenna and Cam Pedersen, who announced his retirement, and rookie Lachie Filipovic. Yesterday, Dion Johnstone was added to that group.  Then there are those being mentioned in despatches as being on the trade table from Dean Kent who almost has his foot in the door at St Kilda, to Jesse Hogan, seemingly bound for Fremantle delisted) and others such as Dom Tyson and Aaron vandenBerg said to be exploring options for various reasons. This means a potential of a dozen new faces including names such as May, Kolodjashnij, Preuss and many more in the club’s new period of upheaval and change ...

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