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Training - Monday 3rd December, 2018

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8 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Tossing or turning whether to go with this in a report because I don't want to be premature, nor do I want to get others overly excited. But I guess it's December so even I can be positive.

I'll also say that Josh Wagner is one of the best 5 kicks at training and even the worst kicks hit their targets more times than not in simple drills.

That said, here's my big call - James Jordon might be the best kick on the list. He's balanced, has a simple action and has lovely penetration and shape on his kicks.

The guys did a drill that required a kick from the wing to land up in front of a forward who was positioned 10m or so inside the boundary. The gusty wind took apart the guys with suspect techniques - Maynard and Tommy Mc kicked floaters and Frost was sending them everywhere, even some of the better kicks were missing short or long. Jordon's kicks were cutting through the breeze and landing in front of the eyes of the forwards.

There's a difference between game-day kicking and kicking at training ---- pressure.

Pleasing that Jordon has a good technique.

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22 minutes ago, Ugottobekidding said:

How does the weid look?

Really good, made him laugh saying I was talking to a man now, reckon he is setting himself up for a big season, looking sharp every session

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1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

15 in the rehab group today, I asked, the majority expected to be ready to go post Xmas

My lovely lady went for a walk to far side of oval, happily leaning on the fence to be greeted by the sight of Steven May charging directly at her chasing an errant kick, managed to apply the brakes at the fence, just, being a gentleman, apologised at the end the session for  scaring the [censored] out of her

Think he is out to prove himself, which is great to see, attacking every session, asked a couple of players, he was [censored] on Friday when a couple of players thought they could step around him, hence why he buried them

Bradtke was again praised for a couple of nice kicks during the kicking drills, reports of his demise premature

Great to see Bernie Vince back

Only a couple of running drills, majority of the session, ball and craft work, great to see in early December

Garlett in magnificent nick, obviously did heaps over the break

Asked Weid,  put on another 1 and 1/2 kilos of muscle over the break, another one who looks in great nick

Any questions feel free

 

Have Gawn and Preuss gone head to head in any rucking drills?? How’s Preuss compare?

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1 hour ago, bing181 said:

Would be great if he could get back to his 40-goals-a-year self.

He was a decent player on his day, exciting/breathtaking at his best.

Would be happy if he can appear to “play his role”.

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1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

That said, here's my big call - James Jordon might be the best kick on the list. He's balanced, has a simple action and has lovely penetration and shape on his kicks.

I’d go so far as to say he’s the best kick on the list since James Strauss.

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48 minutes ago, wise said:

I’d go so far as to say he’s the best kick on the list since James Strauss.

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Yeah but Strauss was a deer in headlights

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10 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Bedford and Chandler have gone hat free. Sparrow the backwards visor. Jordon the regular visor. The rest with the white caps, Bradkte the only one going backwards .

From the main group Spargo, Fritsch, Wagner, Hibberd and JoelSmith are backwards cap guys

So Dr. D's assessment was accurate? Only three sessions in and Bradkte is already going backwards.

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Last report for the day. Tom McDonald had some beautiful salmon coloured boots on. 

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1 hour ago, wise said:

I’d go so far as to say he’s the best kick on the list since James Strauss.

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Ahhh that didn’t end too well ! 

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5 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Any questions feel free

Will Bradtke play ruck and forward?

Where will Walker play? How tall is he?

5 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

 

 

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Thanks all for your reports. 

Overall optomistic.  

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9 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Last report for the day. Tom McDonald had some beautiful salmon coloured boots on. 

Is that even possible? Can salmon coloured boots be beautiful? Makes me doubt the credibility of the rest of your posts (not).

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25 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Is that even possible? Can salmon coloured boots be beautiful? Makes me doubt the credibility of the rest of your posts (not).

I believe the pre-game t-shirts that the players wore last year were classified as being salmon coloured.

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How is JKH tracking?

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Was there any drills pitting forward against back? I saw a photo of Steven May and Tommy Mac standing next to each other. I would be very interested to see that contest.

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9 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Will Bradtke play ruck and forward?

Where will Walker play? How tall is he?

 

Bradtke is a project player with a capital P, assume they will concentrate on the ruck first up, he can kick goals, practices at training, so you could plonk him in the goal square

Walker is another addition to the growing list of medium size players who can play anywhere, 

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17 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

How is JKH tracking?

Another one who seems to have done extra in the break

9 minutes ago, Lefty said:

Was there any drills pitting forward against back? I saw a photo of Steven May and Tommy Mac standing next to each other. I would be very interested to see that contest.

That will be post Xmas, apart from a couple of one on one drills, but that's usually mix and match, had Preuss and May doing battle

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Just now, Satyriconhome said:

had Preuss and May doing battle

Who won?

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21 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Another one who seems to have done extra in the break

That will be post Xmas, apart from a couple of one on one drills, but that's usually mix and match, had Preuss and May doing battle

I'm not disputing this statement, but how does it fit in with the Collective Bargaining Agreement?  I see no problem with players voluntarily doing extra work, but are the club's fitness and conditioning staff able to advise the players on what they should do during their break? Wouldn't that breach the agreement? Conversely, if the club's staff are not able to advise players on what they should do, how is the "extra" work monitored to ensure it fits with requirements and, more importantly, doesn't lead to players over-exerting themselves or potentially causing themselves injury?

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54 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Bradtke is a project player with a capital P, assume they will concentrate on the ruck first up, he can kick goals, practices at training, so you could plonk him in the goal square

Walker is another addition to the growing list of medium size players who can play anywhere, 

I’d say from comments made by Jason Taylor, he’d be playing most of the time as a forward. Secondly, would suggest the ruck not necessarily an ideal spot to put a player who hasn’t played football in a few years, until he is able to protect his body correctly in the position. Teach him to use his body in marking contests and attack the ball in the air, progress that to ruck is my thoughts on the matter

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46 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I'm not disputing this statement, but how does it fit in with the Collective Bargaining Agreement?  I see no problem with players voluntarily doing extra work, but are the club's fitness and conditioning staff able to advise the players on what they should do during their break? Wouldn't that breach the agreement? Conversely, if the club's staff are not able to advise players on what they should do, how is the "extra" work monitored to ensure it fits with requirements and, more importantly, doesn't lead to players over-exerting themselves or potentially causing themselves injury?

The players talk of being given a 'summer program' where I assume they'd sit down at their exit interview and be given ideas of what they should be working on to improve their game/fitness. They would not be allowed to be directly contacted but if they want to do extra work they can. The monitoring of a players 'extra work' will come from all the tests they do when they get back, skin folds, repeat runs etc. 

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28 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I'm not disputing this statement, but how does it fit in with the Collective Bargaining Agreement?  I see no problem with players voluntarily doing extra work, but are the club's fitness and conditioning staff able to advise the players on what they should do during their break? Wouldn't that breach the agreement? Conversely, if the club's staff are not able to advise players on what they should do, how is the "extra" work monitored to ensure it fits with requirements and, more importantly, doesn't lead to players over-exerting themselves or potentially causing themselves injury?

It would be extraordinary if fitness staff could not give advice to players or give them a fitness/workout program if players voluntarily seek their advice.  Even if they don't seek their advice, surely club fitness people can give advice in the off-season. 

Players should be maintaining their condition outside officially sanctioned club training days. I would expect all professional players to do this. This is not to say that this is part of the clubs official training program or mandated training periods. 

The consequences of not keeping fit are obvious. Players are more likely to get injured by not keeping fit than getting injured through over exertion. However, players are not going to be punished for turning up out of condition. 

It players are not able to use their own discretion about maintaining fitness and condition in the off-season, god help me. They may not all be rocket scientists but they are professional footballers and should know what to do.   

 

 

 

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Another diehard that really appreciates all these training reports. I'm up in Brisvegas and for obvious reasons attending training is impossible so having these reports, with the level of detail that some go into is absolutely amazing. I have a great feeling about this team, more so than any Demons team in the last 3 decades. Time will tell I guess.

Anyway, I just wanted to pop in and say thank you for this site and thank you to the great posters that offer us a glimpse into the preseason training sessions.

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