Pre-Preseason 2019 Update

[Demonland 64,761]

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2018-11-05/returning-to-the-track

Melbourne’s first-to-fourth year players still have a few more weeks to cool their heels before returning to training on Monday November 19. The senior players are due back on Monday December 3. 

Injury list: A number of players underwent post-season surgeries including Jack Viney (ankle), Christian Petracca (knee), Mitch Hannan (knee), Clayton Oliver (both shoulders), Aaron vandenBerg (shoulder), Jayden Hunt(shoulder), James Harmes (shoulder) and Neville Jetta (shoulder). All the players listed are expected to resume full training post-Christmas. 

Draft picks: 23, 28, 54, 62, 91

Major off-field moves: Following Peter Jackson's planned departure at the end of the season, Gary Pert has taken over as CEO as of early October. Melbourne's coaching staff has had little turnover and is locked in for another season. 

Round one: Port Adelaide, MCG, March 23, 1.45pm. 

2018 Premiership odds: $8

And another thing … Melbourne coaches have covered all parts of the globe in the off season. Simon Goodwin(London), Craig Jennings (Japan) and Troy Chaplin (US) embarked on study tours to gain insights by visiting sporting clubs in those countries. 

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,137]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

And another thing … Melbourne coaches have covered all parts of the globe in the off season. Simon Goodwin(London), Craig Jennings (Japan) and Troy Chaplin (US) embarked on study tours to gain insights by visiting sporting clubs in those countries. 

I wonder of these junkets make a lick of difference to AFL clubs?

[rjay 23,888]

44 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I wonder of these junkets make a lick of difference to AFL clubs?

Hardly a junket.

Unlike our political masters I think the coaching group deserve these trips even if they gain nothing but some valuable time off.

However, I'm sure they do gain some good insight. It can't hurt to have a look at what others are doing, discuss, learn where appropriate and ensure we are up with or even ahead of the latest trends.

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,154]

Anyone know what Lever's timeline is at this stage??

Any chance at all for the opening rounds?

[chook fowler 18,213]

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2018-11-05/returning-to-the-track

Melbourne’s first-to-fourth year players still have a few more weeks to cool their heels before returning to training on Monday November 19. The senior players are due back on Monday December 3. 

Injury list: A number of players underwent post-season surgeries including Jack Viney (ankle), Christian Petracca (knee), Mitch Hannan (knee), Clayton Oliver (both shoulders), Aaron vandenBerg (shoulder), Jayden Hunt(shoulder), James Harmes (shoulder) and Neville Jetta (shoulder). All the players listed are expected to resume full training post-Christmas. 

Draft picks: 23, 28, 54, 62, 91

Major off-field moves: Following Peter Jackson's planned departure at the end of the season, Gary Pert has taken over as CEO as of early October. Melbourne's coaching staff has had little turnover and is locked in for another season. 

Round one: Port Adelaide, MCG, March 23, 1.45pm. 

2018 Premiership odds: $8

And another thing … Melbourne coaches have covered all parts of the globe in the off season. Simon Goodwin(London), Craig Jennings (Japan) and Troy Chaplin (US) embarked on study tours to gain insights by visiting sporting clubs in those countries. 

MFC should get a Christmas card from Eppworth and the Avenue.

[Satyriconhome 9,982]

2 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Anyone know what Lever's timeline is at this stage??

Any chance at all for the opening rounds?

According to Jake who I spoke to at season's end, wants to be up and ruuning for Rd 1 selection, has a complete program mapped out to try and acheive this, assume he will need every box ticked as this is 2nd knee

[Satyriconhome 9,982]

3 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I wonder of these junkets make a lick of difference to AFL clubs?

Try asking Craig Jennings, I did, professional sport changes daily, you investigate every new 'approach"

[Demon Disciple 10,924]

Will there be a post pre-preseason update prior to pre-season kicking off? I hope there will be!

[Demonland 64,761]

3 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Anyone know what Lever's timeline is at this stage??

Any chance at all for the opening rounds?

Heard him speak on Preliminary Final day and he said he was aiming for Round 1 but he also mentioned that that if he not ready he's not ready but should be ready to go early in the season.

[Hellish Inferno 992]

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

Try asking Craig Jennings, I did, professional sport changes daily, you investigate every new 'approach"

Why always so defensive in this way? Maybe he doesn't have the opportunity to ask? A non-condescending way to reply would be to say that you chatted to Jennings and got the impression that clubs want to investigate every new 'approach' as professional sport changes daily...

[dazzledavey36 48,707]

21 minutes ago, TheCurseisBroken said:

Why always so defensive in this way? Maybe he doesn't have the opportunity to ask? A non-condescending way to reply would be to say that you chatted to Jennings and got the impression that clubs want to investigate every new 'approach' as professional sport changes daily...

Dont waste your time mate. 

[Skuit 9,166]

15 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I wonder of these junkets make a lick of difference to AFL clubs?

From all reports Goodwin is not just a dedicated student of Aussie footy but of world sports. He's also been developing a game-plan which, while still admittedly unproven, is on the leading edge of Australian football and could potentially deliver a dynasty in a league of small margins if it clicks with increasing player maturity. I previously posted my suspicion that he has already taken on board some ideas from both European soccer and rugby league. Far from junkets, I think these research trips are invaluable, and demonstrate the single-minded dedication of our coaching panel as led by Goody.

[Skuit 9,166]

Also not sure if covered anywhere on here, but the Demons site has our 2019 JLT fixtures listed as Richmond on the 3rd of March in Shepparton and and 9th of March at Casey (which I thought was Cazaly's in Cairns at first by its venue code and was going to make a big fuss about but now won't - everything is okay, carry on with your day in peace, but hehe - [censored] Brisbane).

Edited November 5, 2018 by Skuit

[Dirts 429]

Maybe the wrong thread but isn't it weird to see this after 12 years!

2018 Premiership odds: $8

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,394]

29 minutes ago, Dirts said:

Maybe the wrong thread but isn't it weird to see this after 12 years!

2018 Premiership odds: $8

Only if it's associated with Melbourne.

[hemingway 7,589]

In the old days, knees used to be the most common injury in VFL:AFL footy. 

Now shoulders. 

Harder grounds, high speed crash and bash footy,  pile driving/gang tackling ??

It has to be a concern for the health and well being of players during their career and post career. 

It is reported but not commented on. 

[faultydet 7,593]

14 hours ago, Skuit said:

From all reports Goodwin is not just a dedicated student of Aussie footy but of world sports. He's also been developing a game-plan which, while still admittedly unproven, is on the leading edge of Australian football and could potentially deliver a dynasty in a league of small margins if it clicks with increasing player maturity. I previously posted my suspicion that he has already taken on board some ideas from both European soccer and rugby league. Far from junkets, I think these research trips are invaluable, and demonstrate the single-minded dedication of our coaching panel as led by Goody.

Does anyone know if AFL clubs are visited by coaches of codes from around the world to see what they can take back for their own games?

Seems we are always reading of our coaches visiting other countries. After 150+ years of the game, you would think we could be leading the way in at least some areas of professional sport.

[jnrmac 18,948]

14 hours ago, Skuit said:

From all reports Goodwin is not just a dedicated student of Aussie footy but of world sports. He's also been developing a game-plan which, while still admittedly unproven, is on the leading edge of Australian football and could potentially deliver a dynasty in a league of small margins if it clicks with increasing player maturity. I previously posted my suspicion that he has already taken on board some ideas from both European soccer and rugby league. Far from junkets, I think these research trips are invaluable, and demonstrate the single-minded dedication of our coaching panel as led by Goody.

Or put another way....nah mate, why would we be interested in tin pot sports around the world when we know everything here in Oz with the greatest game in the world. We'll just do what we have always done.....

[Queanbeyan Demon 5,914]

On 11/5/2018 at 1:49 PM, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I wonder of these junkets make a lick of difference to AFL clubs?

Yeah . . . nah. It's outrageous. I'm burning my membership card and scarf as soon as they arrive. I'm completely over this club's recent improvement. 

[Chook 14,467]

49 minutes ago, faultydet said:

Does anyone know if AFL clubs are visited by coaches of codes from around the world to see what they can take back for their own games?

Seems we are always reading of our coaches visiting other countries. After 150+ years of the game, you would think we could be leading the way in at least some areas of professional sport.

I remember reading an article years ago that mentioned our anti-hamstring-injury expertise is the best in the world. But that's about it.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,394]

12 hours ago, Chook said:

I remember reading an article years ago that mentioned our anti-hamstring-injury expertise is the best in the world. But that's about it.

I recall reading an article years ago that mentioned our ACL expertise (stopping them from occurring, rather than repairing torn ones) is the best in the world. As Harry Hoo might have said (but probably didn't), this presents three possibilities:

• we're both right and there were two such articles
• one of us is wrong
• neither of us is right.

[Queanbeyan Demon 5,914]

5 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I recall reading an article years ago that mentioned our ACL expertise (stopping them from occurring, rather than repairing torn ones) is the best in the world. As Harry Hoo might have said (but probably didn't), this presents three possibilities:

• we're both right and there were two such articles
• one of us is wrong
• neither of us is right.

The under appreciated and definitely under quoted Harry Hoo. You have risen to the occasion LDV.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,394]

1 hour ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

The under appreciated and definitely under quoted Harry Hoo. You have risen to the occasion LDV.

Please to do so.

[Redleg 37,556]

Waiting for all the houses to come down. 

[samcantstandya 918]

11 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I recall reading an article years ago that mentioned our ACL expertise (stopping them from occurring, rather than repairing torn ones) is the best in the world. As Harry Hoo might have said (but probably didn't), this presents three possibilities:

• we're both right and there were two such articles
• one of us is wrong
• neither of us is right.

Get Smart should be our catch phrase