Farewell Jesse Hogan

[DemonLad5 1,637]

Obviously we picked the wrong people to manage our list because clearly some people here on DemonLand know better than the professionals list managers our footy department hired ?

[DV8 2,271]

3 hours ago, Demon from Sydney said:

Im not sure Hogan is more important than Neale is to Freo. Everything starts in the middle which is where Neale comes into it.No good if Hogan sits inside F50 while Freo have traded away the most likely player to feed Hogan the required ball.In the end Forwards only kick goals because of the Mids. 

Yes but Neale wants out, and has said so publicly... the deal will be done. I am sure.   Even his mate from the Cats has already made arrangements to join the Lions.

I think the Lions will end up uppin' their anbte` for Neale... watt goes around, comes back around.... Just like Halley's.

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,636]

2 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

Obviously we picked the wrong people to manage our list because clearly some people here on DemonLand know better than the professionals list managers our footy department hired ?

In the past, one could have made a very strong case that many here did know a lot better...

[McQueen 17,862]

59 minutes ago, Pates said:

If we take that club it will be on the club to spin it in the way you have there. At the end of the period every club will be saying they are happy because they have filled need X and managed to trade into/remain in position Y in the draft. 

We will definitely be getting unders for Hogan and Mahoney’s bold statement of a trade for hogan being up there as one of the highest of all time will look like a complete joke. 

Hang on a sec.... What did you expect or want him to do? 

Mahoney went large which is exactly what he should’ve done as opposed to talking Hogan down or making him to sound like an average kpf that should only require  mid first rounder and a pack of beer nuts thanks  

Poor old ‘Mahns’ is on a hiding to nowhere.  

[WERRIDEE 5,209]

Just get the deal done. I for one are sick of it. Overs, unders doesn't matter. Hogan can languish around the bottom with the Dockers I just want to see May and Kolodjashnij become Demons.

[ding 5,126]

2 hours ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Hogan stays. Circus continues another 12 months. 

Bell to take the Neale pick 5 to the superdraft, or trade it up for two mid first rounders. Get Hogan in on the cheap next year while adding top shelf young talent to their list now.

As a result May to go to a Melbourne based club, just not us.

Of course I’m not happy with this outcome as a Dees supporter. But this is the route I believe Freo under Bell and Rosich are taking. 

They’re not the dills many on here want to cast them as. 

5

Which is why Jesse will be wearing a Whankors jumper by 8.30 pm tomorrow night. They know his value and will pay the price to get him

Lock it in.

[old55 21,271]

2 hours ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Hogan stays. Circus continues another 12 months. 

Bell to take the Neale pick 5 to the superdraft, or trade it up for two mid first rounders. Get Hogan in on the cheap next year while adding top shelf young talent to their list now.

As a result May to go to a Melbourne based club, just not us.

Of course I’m not happy with this outcome as a Dees supporter. But this is the route I believe Freo under Bell and Rosich are taking. 

They’re not the dills many on here want to cast them as. 

2019 will be a bleak old year for Freo fans with Neale gone, no Hogan in and just some blue sky 18yos struggling to make their way in AFL with little protection in a bottom 4 team.  Add West Coast flag euphoria and stir.

Rosich and Bell would be brave.

[Pates 9,536]

13 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Hang on a sec.... What did you expect or want him to do? 

Mahoney went large which is exactly what he should’ve done as opposed to talking Hogan down or making him to sound like an average kpf that should only require  mid first rounder and a pack of beer nuts thanks  

Poor old ‘Mahns’ is on a hiding to nowhere.  

I would’ve like him to follow through on his statement and be prepared to walk away. I feel like our club has got the big bold statements thing down, but in many aspects we still lack follow through. 

May being available and his desired club has definitely made things awkward, it tipped our hand and Freo have been able to exploit it. Fair play to them. 

I guess I am in the unconvinced corner on the May trade. I get the results based idea of it all, that if it completes the team that’s all that matters, but I hate giving other teams a leg up at the same time. I think it’s also frustrating because Freo have been sniffing around Hogan for years, they have wanted him desperately but now when they will get him they won’t have to sell the farm for him. 

[Dwight Schrute 16,749]

12 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

2019 will be a bleak old year for Freo fans with Neale gone, no Hogan in and just some blue sky 18yos struggling to make their way in AFL with little protection in a bottom 4 team.  Add West Coast flag euphoria and stir.

Rosich and Bell would be brave.

Absolutely and they’ll be concerned if they have nothing to sell guys like brayshaw, Cerra and co they will want out. 

This hogan deal is, and always was huge for them. 

[WERRIDEE 5,209]

I've had it with Hogan, just get rid of him he still doesn't want to be at the Dees get players in who want to be part of the club like May and Kolodjashnij.

[Dee Zephyr 17,425]

5 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Absolutely and they’ll be concerned if they have nothing to sell guys like brayshaw, Cerra and co they will want out. 

This hogan deal is, and always was huge for them. 

How good would it be to somehow get Cerra ripe?

[Pennant St Dee 11,257]

10 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I thought that once you're banned from here, you cannot post again even under a new name??

Demonlanders need to realise if the troll is ignored and not fed it will go away.

He or she must have an awfully sad life, trolling supporters pages for attention 

[Binmans PA 25,997]

14 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

How good would it be to somehow get Cerra ripe?

I hope we go after Cerra next year and I hope we're in his ear this year. Just as they've been in Hogan's since he was 17.

Edited October 16, 2018 by A F

[Dwight Schrute 16,749]

5 minutes ago, A F said:

I hope we go after Cerra next year and I hope we're in his ear this year. Just as they've been in Hogan's since he was 17.

He would be the cerra on top for us. A beautiful inside/outside combo with speed. Too late to get him added to the hogan deal? Haha

[bandicoot 1,395]

3 hours ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Hogan stays. Circus continues another 12 months. 

Bell to take the Neale pick 5 to the superdraft, or trade it up for two mid first rounders. Get Hogan in on the cheap next year while adding top shelf young talent to their list now.

As a result May to go to a Melbourne based club, just not us.

Of course I’m not happy with this outcome as a Dees supporter. But this is the route I believe Freo under Bell and Rosich are taking. 

They’re not the dills many on here want to cast them as. 

Massive risk that they will never get him. He might play at dees in 2019 and want to finish what he started. West coast might trump freo in 2019 with a higher offer. Freo would be crazy to leave those options on the table 

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 5,795]

2 hours ago, Hogan2014 said:

Need to take a lesson out of Hawks they kept their mouths shut until deals were done. Unsure why Mahoney has been talking so much.

Im gonna go into bat for Mahoney on this one, you really shouldn't go labelling without looking at it from all angles.

Just look at the Clubs we have been dealing with GC and Freo, do you really think they wouldn't leak like a sieve to all and sundry.

Hawks would have been tapping up Wingard, Scully and Scrimshaw for months on the sly.

That's how they operate.

[Fork 'em 6,507]

For years Ross Lyon has been carping on to the media how the Dockers just need 2-3 more goals a game.
Here's his chance.
Stop BSing and pay up.

[Demon Disciple 10,924]

3 hours ago, Pates said:

God I hate them. 

You're not alone Pates. It's not so much hating the club as it is their supporters and their arrogance and smugness. I enjoyed our SF win the most out of all our wins this year.

May the streak long continue!

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

2 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

2019 will be a bleak old year for Freo fans with Neale gone, no Hogan in and just some blue sky 18yos struggling to make their way in AFL with little protection in a bottom 4 team.  Add West Coast flag euphoria and stir.

Rosich and Bell would be brave.

It’s a solid rebuttal 55. I take my hat off to you as one of the rare posters who actually puts depth of thought into replies and general analysis. 

Let’s see how it unfolds tomorrow. The drumroll has begun!

[John Demonic 4,794]

1 hour ago, Win4theAges said:

Hawks would have been tapping up Wingard, Scully and Scrimshaw for months on the sly.

That's how they operate.

I wonder how long we've been talking to Steven May. I know we've had a demonland thread on him for almost 2 years, so his future availability has been known for a long time. But given he went to Melbourne grammar, and how readily he has unofficially nominated us, you'd think he may have a few connections inside the club and has been courted over time? Our recruitment of him will be another victory for and a testament to our newfound stability especially coming up directly against the recruiting forces of Hawthorn and Collingwood.

Edited October 16, 2018 by John Demonic

[bing181 8,164]

Just made the mistake of watching some Hogan highlights.

Weep.

[Pates 9,536]

3 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Just made the mistake of watching some Hogan highlights.

Weep.

Yeah I’m gonna steer well away from them. ☹️

[Deemania since 56 6,132]

5 hours ago, skills32 said:

I believe that the trades have been agreed to but the AFL does not want the public to know because they want the info to be announced on the TV 'spectacular'.

Must have some sort of deal with Fox to make the broadcast a blockbuster.

This makes me sick if  true.

Everything is choreographed to our detriment. 

[Skuit 9,166]

8 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

I like Xavier O’Halloran or maybe Ned McHenry in that range. Maybe Curtis Taylor or Sam Sturt will be around, but with a couple of 2nd rounders and a couple of 3rds we must be some chance of getting into the 1st rd somewhere.

Question for yourself and the other talent watchers Chaser - this year's crop was initially hailed as a super-draft, then more recently there have been suggestions of a sharp drop-off after the front-end. If accurate, do you know roughly in AFL circles where the steep decline is expected, and what is your own opinion?   

[Marty 419]

4 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

You're not alone Pates. It's not so much hating the club as it is their supporters and their arrogance and smugness. I enjoyed our SF win the most out of all our wins this year.

May the streak long continue!

In the last quarter when Gunston got that free for taking out the legs, when they were coming hard at us. He missed the shot but up in the Olympic stand it looked like it went through. A couple of Hawks supporters in front of us jumped up and celebrated turning around really trying to rub all the Melbourne supporters noses in it. You think by the silence they would have worked out that he missed but no they were just loving being complete [censored]. I even had time to say to my sister, "wonder when someone will tell them that he missed" her reply "Let them go, this is Gold" ????