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49 minutes ago, demoniac said:

Have to package to a club in need of points for matching bids on academy/fatherson picks.

 

23 = 815 points

30 = 629 points

36 = 502 points

Total 1976 points which is enough points to match a bid at 5 (without factoring in discounts)

Pick 53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63 & 64 equates to pick 5. Do you think Gold Coast would do that deal? We might have to get rid of some fringe players to get the picks. :laugh:

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18 minutes ago, FireInTheBelly said:

Didn't the Freo statement say they were stopping the due diligence process? Does that mean if they do end up signing JH they won't have done their due diligence?

Belly's way of saying he's taking a shorts troll. a mini break, a bye moment.

I think he'll be diligent again, very soon.  Or Ross is not the Boss.

 

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4 hours ago, johndemonic said:

We're not trying to win a negotiation, we're trying to improve our list.

its also to remembered that footy is a business. and hogan is a blue chip in our organisation. as boring and lame as it sounds, he has worth and if we just bend over and give him away for nothing, even if we get in an ok backman and a who knows what second rounder, that is a loss. we need may and a really solid pick that is pretty much guaranteed to play all year and be a star. not some kid that we get at pick 27 or whatever, who might quit footy in a year after struggling with the speed of the game at casey..

it is a negotiation.

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I just cannot see this happening without a lot of back-pedalling from all concerned: Freo by upping their Trade offer, us by conceding on what we want (5 + one or two second rounders?), and Hogan by reducing his 8/8 demand.

Of course, if any one of those parties made serious concessions it could go through, but that looks increasingly unlikely.

Welcome to Melbourne Football Club Jesse Hogan?

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4 hours ago, EnterTheDragon said:

People STILL doing the permutations over the Neale pick 5 and whatever else they think we can wrangle.

He’s not going there people. The negotiation is dead and buried.

Hogan stays for 12 months.

It's been a long road with 10 posts per hour from you. 

You've stuck your neck out here and I reckon it's about 67% chance to get the chop.

The deal is probably on unless Bell completely stuffs it up.

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12 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

It's been a long road with 10 posts per hour from you. 

You've stuck your neck out here and I reckon it's about 67% chance to get the chop.

The deal is probably on unless Bell completely stuffs it up.

The Neale deal will get done most likely. What I meant was it won’t affect Melbourne if it does ... Hogan is not going to Fremantle this year.

Bell will be holding on to pick 5 in the superdraft and either using it on a gun young player or trading it for multiple first round picks. 

Hogan to possibly go over in 12 months time at a cheaper price (yes even cheaper than 11 & future 2nd round). They (Hogan and Freo) likely already have a handshake agreement about this.

That’s the plan that makes most sense for them IMO. I’d do the same if I were them.

It’s a bummer because the Dees miss out on May as a result and retain a wantaway forward on the list for another year.

Hopefully we can make the best of a difficult situation and win the 2019 flag with a professional Jesse giving his all for the cause throughout the season. 

Some guys are capable of that level of discipline before they jump clubs (Bryce Gibbs, Dangerfield) whereas others can’t cope with it mentally and their form dramatically slumps. 

We shall see which way Jesse goes.

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If anyone actually cares to uncover Enter the Dragon's former or current alternative Demonland guise just throw me a few leads to get the ball rolling and I'm pretty sure I can sort it out before the conclusion of trade week. 

Me

Stuie (an insult to ETD)

Curry & Beer (I don't think so from memory - abrasive but not dynamic enough).

Range Rover (I don't recall - but a new 'Rangie' popped up last year before he was sent packing).

Anyone else? 

 

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13 minutes ago, Skuit said:

If anyone actually cares to uncover Enter the Dragon's former or current alternative Demonland guise just throw me a few leads to get the ball rolling and I'm pretty sure I can sort it out before the conclusion of trade week. 

Me

Stuie (an insult to ETD)

Curry & Beer (I don't think so from memory - abrasive but not dynamic enough).

Range Rover (I don't recall - but a new 'Rangie' popped up last year before he was sent packing).

Anyone else? 

 

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8 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

Sun is reporting that Peter Bell is flying into Melbourne tomorrow to resume talks on a deal that will potentially include pick 5 and other picks, thus allowing us to secure May and KK. So, nothing new really, other than what we all knew - Bell was bluffing. 

Has Tinker Bell still got the gig???? Well maybe the Freo board is complicate in this pathetic episode as well  or JUST MAYBE the AFL made a phone call. 

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7 hours ago, DTJ said:

You know what I'd love to see...

Us to suggest just pick 5 is good enough. Freo then trades out Neale for pick 5 from Brisbane and then for us to refuse trading Hogan.

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Strategically interesting as an example of 'come-uppance' time for Freo. They can only reap what they sow.

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6 minutes ago, MT64 said:

Has Tinker Bell still got the gig???? Well maybe the Freo board is complicate in this pathetic episode as well  or JUST MAYBE the AFL made a phone call. 

Just maybe their Board never was reliant on Bell; saw his flaws and inexperience as stark and similar reminders of past disappointments in the role of player recruitment and/or list management. Thus, they overplayed their own hand by getting too close to the action in a 'caring, steering, 'close scrutiny' role of control freakiness over Bell, who was easily manipulated in order to 'be successful' in such an important - and for him, new - role. It might appear that the AFL did in fact lavish the expense of a telephone call to the Freo Board to sort, stabilise and normalise their endeavours. 

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17 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Strategically interesting as an example of 'come-uppance' time for Freo. They can only reap what they sow.

Would be magnificent tbh. Our TMAC/WEID/Hogan forward line becomes ELITE in the Riewold/Lynch, Kennedy/Darling level. Lever & Omac have great years, we capitalize on all close matches unlike last year, and have a full tilt at a premiership from the top 2 with a 3 game MCG pathway in the finals despite defence still being one 'fragile' area of our game. Steven May holds out for one year and we pick him up next year in our quest to go back to back. All areas of our team become A+

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6 minutes ago, johndemonic said:

Would be magnificent tbh. Our forward line becomes ELITE in the Riewold/Lynch, Kennedy/Darling level. Lever & Omac have great years, we capitalize on all close matches unlike last year, and have a full tilt at a premiership from the top 2 with a 3 game MCG pathway in the finals despite defence still being one 'fragile' area of our game. Steven May holds out for one year and we pick him up next year in our quest to go back to back. All areas of our team become A+

Drool, it would be a wonderful outcome.

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