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Hogan         a  potential  champ but a long way to go.We dont want to loose him.This could be as bad as 65 when RDB left to go the blues,which totally destroyed the mfc ,you cant throw away champions

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The trade offer from Freo does not match the size of the contract or JH age. Its a BS low ball offer straight out of Trumps “Art of the Deal”.  Its designed to try and force MFC into a mid position. Problem is that this tactic only works when you are in a position of power. In this instance Jesse has not requested a trade and is  contracted.

Bell needs to read up on negotiation tactics. This is amateur hour. 

The only strategy left for MFC is to walk away and force JH to play out his contract.

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People are missing the point. Ignore the final offer bit. They are now making an offer. Plenty of time for more "final offers" between now and Wednesday.

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1 minute ago, sue said:

BB you keep hinting that there is a secret big cross against JH, but at the moment the only evidence of it is Freo's weak offer.   Until someone produces some more evidence, I'll just assume Freo are just waiting till next year.

There's something not quite right... surely. 

Love to know what . 

I ask myself....why ARE we now quite keen to see off Jesse ?

Why aren't Freo so enraptured at having the opportunity ?

Why isn't WCE sniffing at the door ?

I'm not sure as to the nature of this animal ....not any more.

I haven't been one to rate Hogan nearly as high as many, but that aside this offer is below low ball. Ambit for sure...but still.

There's dealing...and there's poking the bear.

Very odd

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Just now, big_red_fire_engine said:

People are missing the point. Ignore the final offer bit. They are now making an offer. Plenty of time for more "final offers" between now and Wednesday.

These nuffs will say anything for a news grab but none of them are ever held accountable. Ever.

See Damien Barrett for his nonsense call on Dayne Beams.

Honestly, football news breakers are the lowest of common denominators.

They're genuine scum.

Yeh I said it.

Scum.

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If a deal doesn't get done I think JH and his management would be pretty filthy with Freo. Could be the instigation to get him to sign a long-term deal. 

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How I read it:

Freo offer 11 and future 2nd. Everybody outraged.

They then real late in the piece appear to concede and swap pick 11 for 5 and we accept.

However they are just trying to avoid giving up 5 and 11. I hope we call their bluff and keep young Jesse

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3 minutes ago, Grand New Flag said:

The trade offer from Freo does not match the size of the contract or JH age. Its a BS low ball offer straight out of Trumps “Art of the Deal”.  Its designed to try and force MFC into a mid position. Problem is that this tactic only works when you are in a position of power. In this instance Jesse has not requested a trade and is  contracted.

Bell needs to read up on negotiation tactics. This is amateur hour. 

The only strategy left for MFC is to walk away and force JH to play out his contract.

Thing is GNF Fremantle need hogan, they have nothing to sell to their members and so on. The club is a mess and they desperately need a big signing. Jesse answers their prayers but sadly bell is trying to puff his chest out and wants to get hogan, lobb and keep pick 5, or Neale. 

Give us pick 11, 2019 first and Ed Langdon and we are closer to the mark. 

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1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

There's something not quite right... surely. 

Love to know what . 

I ask myself....why ARE we now quite keen to see off Jesse ?

Why aren't Freo so enraptured at having the opportunity ?

Why isn't WCE sniffing at the door ?

I'm not sure as to the nature of this animal ....not any more.

I haven't been one to rate Hogan nearly as high as many, but that aside this offer is below low ball. Ambit for sure...but still.

There's dealing...and there's poking the bear.

Very odd

Re your questions: I'm just guessing....:

1.  Keen because we'd rather lose him now than in a year

2.  We don't know they aren't enraptured. They may just be very odd negotiators.

3. Maybe WCE are or would like to be but I understood they had nothing to trade now.

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Actually rather he sign back on instead of dudding us all next year. Why would he want to be part of Docker shockers?  

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1 minute ago, whelan45 said:

How I read it:

Freo offer 11 and future 2nd. Everybody outraged.

They then real late in the piece appear to concede and swap pick 11 for 5 and we accept.

However they are just trying to avoid giving up 5 and 11. I hope we call their bluff and keep young Jesse

Do they have 5? 

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1 hour ago, Demon Spofforth said:

Bloody Fremantle...

"DAYNE Beams will play at Brisbane next year, according to the club.

The Lions today rubbished a potential trade of Beams to Collingwood.

It is understood speculation can be traced back to Fremantle, which is in trade talks with the Lions over ball magnet Lachie Neale."

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/trade-daily-live-rolling-trade-news-from-around-australia-for-thursday-october-11-2018/live-coverage/2becfdb638de0350c2beca79da8cc92c#51073

Well Dodoro's title of Trade Week Ars-hole,  has probably been taken by Bell. He is actually seeking to destabilize clubs and players, if this report is true.

He should be taken to task by the other clubs.

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So Freo probably offer Hogan $1-$1.2m then offer those picks.........you've got to laugh? Don't you? lol

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This is what happens when the CEO/Board get involved and take over negotiations from the FD. Didn't Paul McNamee do something similar?

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Melbourne's position has changed.....???

Standby..

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Final offer? Straight out of the How to Haggle handbook.

 

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9 hours ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Dayne beans requests trade back to Collingwood. 

Can someone imagine some complicated way this could facilitate the Neale deal? 

Maybe the Pies are nagging away with more cashe`, since the GF loss...  and Gaff signing back on with WCE.

Edee is a deetermined El Pres.

I think Moore signed back on with the Pies, when it seemed May wanted to be with the Dees.

 

So Yes I can imagine some 'Beams' deal getting done, for a pick keeping the Lions in the Early draft.

It feels like Freo want their cake, and eat one as well.

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Counter with requesting 3 first rounders. 

Edited by Ethan Tremblay
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2 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Melbourne's position has changed.....???

Standby..

where is this snippet coming from @McQueen?

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Freo cannot offer 5 as they do not hav it yet.  They have put an offer on the table relating to their best current pick.  We say no, do better, and see what emerges if the Neale deal drops.

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4 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Well Dodoro's title of Trade Week Ars-hole,  has probably been taken by Bell. He is actually seeking to destabilize clubs and players, if this report is true.

He should be taken to task by the other clubs.

Can't open what's it say

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Just now, buck_nekkid said:

Freo cannot offer 5 as they do not hav it yet.  They have put an offer on the table relating to their best current pick.  We say no, do better, and see what emerges if the Neale deal drops.

But they said its their final offer!

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Just now, djr said:

But they said its their final offer!

Where and by whom was that stated?    

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3 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

where is this snippet coming from @McQueen?

I thought that's what I heard them say on moron radio.

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