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1 minute ago, SFebes said:

 

This is what happens when negotiations drag on. Take what you can get before other deals get in the way Adelaide sends 8 and 16 to freo for Neale to bris and 5 to Adelaide... And maybe a shuffle of later picks

That's a decent deal for all and makes May a whole lot harder of we only get 8 and 11 for Hogan. Suns will want more than 8

 

 

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Just now, SFebes said:

Freos stubborness could stuff everything up here if Crows get pick 5.

If it were me, I’d say I’d pick 5 is off the table I’d nearly walk away and make a statement to Jesse and the industry. 

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9 hours ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

I’ve heard from a source I trust very much that Fremantle have been an absolute nightmare for Brisbane to deal with in the lachie Neale trade. I can only imagine that’s been the same with the hogan situation. They’re asking massive overs from Brisbane and keep saying he’s contracted. I hope we do the same!

Time to tell Freo to FO!

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9 minutes ago, Johnny Karate said:

Hogan for May + pick 11 is a good return. *Ducks*

 

4 minutes ago, Tough Kent said:

I think anyone with empathy for a different club would think this is a fair deal.

I think it's very close to the right deal, but I would be pushing for GC to include KK and Pick 19 in that deal.  A shuffle of picks too.

Something like;

In; May, KK, Pick 24

Out; Pick 5, Pick 34

Means we are taking Pick 11 and 24 in to the draft, and when combined with May and KK, has cost us Hogan and Pick 34.

I would rate Hogan = May & KK (in terms of value to our needs).  Shuffling Picks 5 & 34 (2420 points) for Pick 11 & 24 (2114).

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If we trade Hogan and baulk at May because “we’ll get him as a free agent next year” it would be unprofessional and stupid in my opinion. If you’ve got a player of calibre wanting to join your club you shouldn’t look a gift horse in the mouth and should negotiate in good faith. MFC has taken this pragmatic approach in the past and I don’t see why it would change. 

Equally,  Freo would be stupid to not trade for Hogan because “he’ll be cheaper when he’s OOC”. 

I don’t think these “play hardball” approaches would ingratiate clubs to players, managers or the industry at large. It’s not about ‘winning’ a trade it’s about being pragmatic and mature.

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What if... Lachie Neale is now available? Brisbane are either bluffing, or they've given away on getting him because of Freo's stubborness. Is Lachie Neale and pick 11 out of the question? I do rate Neale. And if we managed to use 11 + player + picks to get Steven May, then we'd be laughing. Just a thought. A far fetched one at that.

I do however think Brisbane are bluffing and using this to get Freo to do the pick 5 deal though.

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54 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Melbourne will trade pick 5 for May.

I'm looking forward to the meltdowns.

Me too. It’s gonna be Lever 2.0

I wonder if we bundle KK in that pick 5 trade. Maybe 5 for May and KK? And some late pick swaps?

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3 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

If it were me, I’d say I’d pick 5 is off the table I’d nearly walk away and make a statement to Jesse and the industry. 

That's the issue, if Freo finish say 10th next year it's only pick 8-9 they'll have.

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5 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

If it were me, I’d say I’d pick 5 is off the table I’d nearly walk away and make a statement to Jesse and the industry. 

Statement time, indeed. Whilst I would like May in the team, we really do not need him. We do need Preuss and KK. 

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2 minutes ago, johndemonic said:

What if... Lachie Neale is now available? Brisbane are either bluffing, or they've given away on getting him because of Freo's stubborness. Is Lachie Neale and pick 11 out of the question? I do rate Neale. And if we managed to use 11 + player + picks to get Steven May, then we'd be laughing. Just a thought. A far fetched out. 

I do think Brisbane are bluffing and using this to get Freo to do the pick 5 deal though.

pardon my ignorance... is he an outside or inside mid

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1 minute ago, monoccular said:

Get tough - 5 and Brayshaw or p off

What is the obsession with Brayshaw other than being related to Angus? We don't need more inside mids. We're past the stage of grabbing the 'best available' we have obvious strengths and obvious deficiencies and Brayshaw does nothing to fix our deficiencies.

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Hey Jesse, Freo obviously don't value you. Otherwise they would make a fair offer for you. All the promises they have made over the years, and now they value at less than May (an unloved full back). Why would you ever want to go there. Lyon is not a popular coach. The club is in dissaray and they are the 3rd worst scoring side in the AFL. Perhaps it is time to commit to the highest scoring side in the AFL with a popular coach at a great club that finished top 4 without you. If you really want to go home, tell Freo to make a fair offer or you will never come to them.

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