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When did we pass them?

 

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No, they have been a little bit ahead of us the whole time.  Even last year although we finished four positions higher on the ladder, they had us covered comfortably in round 23 and we were fortunate to beat them in QB.  They are a good side but we are very close to theem and closing fast.

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The Filth have won flags since 1964, not many, but they have done it twice. 

We continue to fail at critical times...

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I would’ve coped a lot better about yesterday had Collingwood got flogged by Richmond, which was supposed to happen.

Now Collingwood are going to win a flag which is bitterly depressing.

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They have clicked at the right time .. 14 wins with 13 against bottom 8 sides & get top 4 which questions the afl fixturing.. would like to see ladder positions if only they payed each once 

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Pies have much better experienced players in Pendles & Sidebottom compared to Jones & Lewis. Grundy matches our key player in Gawn and they smash us for outside run. 

They’ll  trade Darcy Moore and end up with 2 first rounders this year so let’s hope they don’t nail their picks again.  

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There are few things I cannot stand more than "X has gone past us".

Didn't Adelaide, Port Adelaide and Essendon "pass us" last year?

It truly is a mind-numbingly stupid way to look at things.

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I posted this in the “other prelim” thread. They finished 4th after round 23 after beating only one side in the top 8 and that was us. In the finals they fought hard in week 1 but lost, won an ordinary game in week 2 and the played the game of their season on Friday night. Effectively and this isn’t sour grapes, one great game for them into the GF.

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Just now, Bombay Airconditioning said:

I posted this in the “other prelim” thread. They finished 4th after round 23 after beating only one side in the top 8 and that was us. In the finals they fought hard in week 1 but lost, won an ordinary game in week 2 and the played the game of their season on Friday night. Effectively and this isn’t sour grapes, one great game for them into the GF.

They're the worst-credentialled GF side I can remember.

(99% sour grapes from me)

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8 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

There are few things I cannot stand more than "X has gone past us".

Didn't Adelaide, Port Adelaide and Essendon "pass us" last year?

It truly is a mind-numbingly stupid way to look at things.

Remember a couple of years ago when St Kilda went past us? 😂

I agree with your analysis of the topic at hand. 

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23 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

Pies have much better experienced players in Pendles & Sidebottom compared to Jones & Lewis. Grundy matches our key player in Gawn and they smash us for outside run. 

They’ll  trade Darcy Moore and end up with 2 first rounders this year so let’s hope they don’t nail their picks again.  

Pretty much spot on. We still need to add better running midfielders and higher quality small forwards. Yesterday inside 50s were pretty much equal however we got scored heavily against. Inside 50 efficiency is an issue whilst defending and attacking.

Our key defensive stocks yesterday looked barely a pass mark. But that isn't helped when the pressure being applied in the midfield is not upto scratch.

Our skills and decision making moving the ball forward are another area we are seriously lacking. This has been highlighted numerous times throughout the finals when we have won and also during the season when dominating a game but still losing. 

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This is a really depressing thread.

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Nobody has come from as far back as we have. Not even GWS as all their concessions put them way ahead of us. We were a broken down, basket case, shell of a club, which makes our resurgence all the more satisfying.

This also means that we Melbourne supporters automatically have more soul than any of the others.

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I've had a sinking feeling all year that Collingwood were the best team in the comp given that they genuinely blew us off the park and we had no chance even if we were up for the fight initially, unlike other losses where we didn't cope with weather or never showed up. 

 

If you think it's all about fixturing or luck then I think that's just denial. The pies play a scintillating and fast style that makes everything fall into place for them. 

Ive been in denial all year and the last vestige of it is in the hands of the Eagles.  Denial that our last two losses were more about our poor form than simply being not skillful or fast enough to stay with them 

Ive even mocked a few magpie fan comments that whinged they only lost to Richmond because of mid game injuries, even though I had that feeling that they might have been right.

Somehow I think the circus atmosphere will spook the Eagles again like in 15 and they'll be overrun in the second half through sheer weight of repeated surges forward.

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I don't hate Collingwood like most seem to. I quite admire the way they display pride in the club and give unconditional effort. My favourite thing in sport i seeing seemingly outclassed teams beat their opponents on effort. Collingwood have been doing that for many years.

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We have improved every year since 2014 with 4  wins and the personnel that was picked up along the way . Not just the football department the whole of the MFC. Although  beaten by WCE , 16 wins were produced along the way and in that,  2 great Finals wins against teams we couldn't beat when it  counted over a long time.

However the improvement has been there for 5 years as our numbers tell the story. 4 wins in 2014 to 16 wins in 2018 as the arrow points North. We  are well on the way as there is plenty of scope for improvement. Not disappointed just exited for whats to come.

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1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I would’ve coped a lot better about yesterday had Collingwood got flogged by Richmond, which was supposed to happen.

Now Collingwood are going to win a flag which is bitterly depressing.

For what it's worth I think West Coast will win...

The only caveat I have is that Darling doesn't have another GF let down.

They have no one to cover Kennedy.

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1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I would’ve coped a lot better about yesterday had Collingwood got flogged by Richmond, which was supposed to happen.

Now Collingwood are going to win a flag which is bitterly depressing.

Yep I think they will. Hope west coast beat them but have a feeling the umpires will help Collingwood that little bit more!

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3 minutes ago, rjay said:

For what it's worth I think West Coast will win...

The only caveat I have is that Darling doesn't have another GF let down.

They have no one to cover Kennedy.

I'm leaning towards west coast as well. They will apply body pressure to Cox and I doubt he will have the same impact he did this weekend because of it. Kennedy & Darling got a hold of the Pies a couple of weeks ago. I don't see a reason it won't happen again.

In saying all this Collingwood have a great midfield and Grundy will most likely do his job. Should be a cracking game.

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1 hour ago, goodwindees said:

Pies have much better experienced players in Pendles & Sidebottom compared to Jones & Lewis. Grundy matches our key player in Gawn and they smash us for outside run. 

They’ll  trade Darcy Moore and end up with 2 first rounders this year so let’s hope they don’t nail their picks again.  

No, they will trade Darcy and get May. No one would give them 2 first rounders for Moore.

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I can’t believe you would think I was saying that. Their first Rounder plus one for Moore, gives them 2 first rounders to possibly move further ahead of us. 

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I think this whole jealousy thing sucks.

If we get to the top, I'll appreciate it for what it is. I'll be happy for us and not sneering at our opposition.

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Collingwood, Hawthorn, Geelong and Sydney have been able to retain genuinely good players from their previously successful sides through their rebuilds.  This is a huge advantage and has seen players like Sidebottom and Pendlebury playing alongside Degoey and Grundy.

We completely bottomed out of senior talent several times over the past twelve years.  It is a huge advantage to start a ‘rebuild’ with quality senior players already in the line-up.

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Gone past us?  They beat us R23 last year, QB this year, and won one extra game to put them into the GF.

they are playing well, credit to them.  We are young and building.  Better to remark that we have significantly closed the gap between us and the best teams.  We would have been a fairy tale this year, but hopefully we are building a dynasty around what is the premier emerging midfield in the comp.

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