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The Blowtorch on Jordan Lewis


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I want to highlight two instances yesterday that resulted in direct Swans goals. The microscope is directly over Lewis in both.

1/ 26-26, Swans have just kicked three on the trot. Time to stem the flow. Someone is going to have an opportunity to do this through his actions. Kennedy wins the centre clearance and kicks a high ball to half forward. From the second it left his boot I saw Lewis trailing back on his own, the opportunity was his. As an accomplished, successful player he had the chance to push hard back with the flight of the ball and take a team steadying mark. As it turned out he actually would've taken it uncontested. Instead, he has a quick look then puts in three or four of the shortest steps possible and effectively shat himself. The vision can look to some that he misjudged the flight but i dont buy that, he's too good a player to get it that wrong, and ive played enough footy to be able to tell when someones put in the short ones. Anyway, he doesnt get there, ball bobbles round, falls to Hanneberry....goal. Full panic stations now.

2/ 1 minute to go in the third quarter. Been one of our worst quarters of football for the year but we're still within 22 points and will get our chance in the last with them down 2 on the bench. Cant concede one here, just hold up for 60 seconds. Defensive 50 stoppage.. should NEVER concede in this situation. Another opportunity for Lewis to display his leadership, you would think he would a) Talk to his teammates to ensure we've structured up properly, You'd think a two player outnumber would make sense with 1 minute to go and b) take ownership for their most dangerous player at the contest and put an arm across him. He does neither. As hes ball watching Papley strolls through untouched and kicks a spirit killing goal.

I hope these two bits of vision are shown and discussed heavily and harshly in todays review. 

 

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1 minute ago, Bateman12 said:

I want to highlight two instances yesterday that resulted in direct Swans goals. The microscope is directly over Lewis in both.

1/ 26-26, Swans have just kicked three on the trot. Time to stem the flow. Someone is going to have an opportunity to do this through his actions. Kennedy wins the centre clearance and kicks a high ball to half forward. From the second it left his boot I saw Lewis trailing back on his own, the opportunity was his. As an accomplished, successful player he had the chance to push hard back with the flight of the ball and take a team steadying mark. As it turned out he actually would've taken it uncontested. Instead, he has a quick look then puts in three or four of the shortest steps possible and effectively shat himself. The vision can look to some that he misjudged the flight but i dont buy that, he's too good a player to get it that wrong, and ive played enough footy to be able to tell when someones put in the short ones. Anyway, he doesnt get there, ball bobbles round, falls to Hanneberry....goal. Full panic stations now.

2/ 1 minute to go in the third quarter. Been one of our worst quarters of football for the year but we're still within 22 points and will get our chance in the last with them down 2 on the bench. Cant concede one here, just hold up for 60 seconds. Defensive 50 stoppage.. should NEVER concede in this situation. Another opportunity for Lewis to display his leadership, you would think he would a) Talk to his teammates to ensure we've structured up properly, You'd think a two player outnumber would make sense with 1 minute to go and b) take ownership for their most dangerous player at the contest and put an arm across him. He does neither. As hes ball watching Papley strolls through untouched and kicks a spirit killing goal.

I hope these two bits of vision are shown and discussed heavily and harshly in todays review. 

 

I noticed this too, I was fuming after that.

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12 minutes ago, praha said:

He's been useful in a few games but if leadership is so sorely MIA as it was yesterday, what is the point? We should have pushed for Hodge. 

McVeigh was more gettable last year. if Sydney are foolish enough to not offer him a contract this year he'd be a decent experienced head in defence. He's been in great form this year.

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Just drop him.Send out the right message to the kids.Keeping players in the team on reputation alone builds resentment in the squad.

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2 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

It's very hard to understand why we didn't have a goal keeper in the square at that end of 3rd qtr stoppage.  Ball went thru waist high.

 

The answer is obvious the players were waiting for goody to tell them to do so, instead of thinking about it themselves. Kind of reminds me of the St kilda game we lost in the last 40 seconds type scenario.

 

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2 hours ago, Biffen said:

Just drop him.Send out the right message to the kids.Keeping players in the team on reputation alone builds resentment in the squad.

I think we’re f kd Biff, who comes in for him? Hibbs if fit otherwise Dec K upgrade?

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3 hours ago, Brenno said:

I noticed this too, I was fuming after that.

He is occupying a space on the team sheet that he should not. He must retire, now. He has the smarts and the experience to be an great coach at the Dees, and should be given a 12-month stint as the 2IC coach, like Roos gave to Goodwin. After next season, he could well take over as senior coach from Goodwin and some suggest that his coach-to-player bonds would be far superior to those of Goodwin on game day. Goodwin is too slow to respond, even when opposition teams kick 6 unanswered goals against us. We just have to man up if we lose a lead of 2-3 goals, get it back, move on. Different game elements must be employed when we bleed goals and bleed offensive advantages. The Swans game displayed our worst. 

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2 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

It's very hard to understand why we didn't have a goal keeper in the square at that end of 3rd qtr stoppage.  Ball went thru waist high.

Ironically, we have seen that happen several times this season - just when we did not need it to happen. 

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I was at the game at you find what you are looking for. Lewis is in our best in my opinion and THAT is a problem but it isn’t Lewis’...

He is playing with some very dumb footy players and that was our worst backline for quite sometime... No Hibberd, Lever, Smith. Hunt for a half. Pedersen for what 45 mins? Oscar playing on a small. Oscar letting players run around him.

Jetta is superhuman. Salem’s left foot is Yze like. Frost and Fritsch are doing good things and Lewis is playing well. What a makeshift backline. They have been impressive.

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Agree about him squibbing that contest.  It cost a goal. It may not have been obvious on TV. At the ground (which I was) it was very obvious that he made a deliberate decision not to make a contest .

Imagine the outrage if it had been Jack Watts.

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24 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

He is occupying a space on the team sheet that he should not. He must retire, now. He has the smarts and the experience to be an great coach at the Dees, and should be given a 12-month stint as the 2IC coach, like Roos gave to Goodwin. After next season, he could well take over as senior coach from Goodwin and some suggest that his coach-to-player bonds would be far superior to those of Goodwin on game day. Goodwin is too slow to respond, even when opposition teams kick 6 unanswered goals against us. We just have to man up if we lose a lead of 2-3 goals, get it back, move on. Different game elements must be employed when we bleed goals and bleed offensive advantages. The Swans game displayed our worst. 

How many shots at goal did we miss during that run on. Seemed to be at least four. Kick two of them and makes a big difference!

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For the love of God, Salem was on Papley time and time again he was drawn towards the stoppage/ball coming inside 50 with Papley only to lose concentration and body contact with Papley who dropped out the back. Similar to Trac not running hard enough with Heeney when running back to our defensive 50

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Lewis is a smart player who brings plenty to the table with his clever disposal and he's been a huge factor in our rise up the charts (percentage wise at least). But as we have all noticed all year he has been found out for pace and is now up there with the slowest players in the league when it comes to sprinting for the ball - Hodge and Selwood are up there too.

He clearly is needed for this season - it's too late to be making massive changes to our back seven and once we make finals he will be even more important.

But clearly there are some serious talks to be had once the season is completed.

But please give it a rest on the anti-Lewis stuff until post-season. He deserves his last hurrah this season.

 

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17 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

For the love of God, Salem was on Papley time and time again he was drawn towards the stoppage/ball coming inside 50 with Papley only to lose concentration and body contact with Papley who dropped out the back. Similar to Trac not running hard enough with Heeney when running back to our defensive 50

Yep Salem was caught in no mans land on several occasions either ball watching or guarding no one in particular...

I know he's used for his offensive side but gee some of his defensive efforts are poor (usually due to his positioning as he generally goes in hard when it's his turn)

By no means he is the only one, but he's definitely a player that teams will look to exploit

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Lewis: with ball in hand he is an elite decision maker and distributor.  Without ball in hand he struggles to get to contests, he struggles to halve contests, and he gets run off.  Depends what you are looking a5 in how you judge him.  We have a place for him when everything else works.

Also, Salem was great by foot, but got lost defensively far too often.

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