POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 21

[Demon Disciple 10,903]

with other results on the weekend, we need only to win 1 more game and we're in the 8 come september

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

The same dumb basic mistakes again and again.

[praha 10,267]

2 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I'm dirty on this loss, but I'll let the rest of the usual suspects lose the plot, slash their wrists and do the usual ranting and raving.  Seriously, go right ahead.

We lost this game today in front of goal.  Sure, they cut us up during periods of the game with their use by foot and our willingness to allow them space.  But we should never have let them win this game of footy.  When Hogan goaled and we were 3.7 it should have been 7.3, as we missed a slew of easy shots.  If we were 6 goals up then they would have been dead and buried.  But they weren't, they got a sniff and, as experienced sides do, they made their chances count when we didn't and we couldn't haul them back.

I must admit that I was bemused at times by some of our decision making, and the implied pressure of the Swans meant that we rushed things at times when we didn't need to.  We had every opportunity to win this game of footy, but we didn't make it count, and that's down to composure and skill execution under pressure.  It's not down to leadership and all that stuff.  We just didn't execute well under pressure.

We certainly lacked some class at times and too many players went missing, but this isn't the end of the world.  Seriously, it's not.  We've got two games to go - win one and we're in.  Simple as that.

you're truly delusional. you don't lose games like that and factor in september. they were 2 players down and somehow managed to smash us in uncontested possessions. that is inexcusable.

[whatwhat say what 18,793]

We remain a good ordinary club

I said we’d finish 10th with an 11-11 record; looks like it’ll be 10th with a 12-10 record

[Maldonboy38 5,813]

Furious. All my family deserted me and left me stomping around the living room groaning and grimacing at:

Un-pressured turnovers (how many times in a single season am I going to type or say that word? Did some of the Sydney players have Melbourne jumpers on?)

Kicking. Goal kicking. Field kicking. 

2nd to the ball - almost all day. Beaten by unknown lumps in Sydney jumpers who simply got in first. 

Some very poor performances: Pederson, Jeffy, Spargo, Hunt, JKH,.

And if not for Harmes we would have been flogged. 

 

[Purple77 951]

2 players down, and yet they somehow find the run and spread to take that many marks? Disappointing.

[Elegt 872]

continuously bombing it into allir is a rookie mistake. the only time we looked like scoring was when harmes started to run and carry. however the biggest disappointment was the lack of 2 way running. lots of loose Sydney mids everywhere . this has been a recurring theme every game this year. ffs run the players harder at training 

[darkhorse72 1,718]

Lost it in front of Goal shocking decisions.  The worst was playing on inside 50 from a mark?  Why, if you can't kick it least put in 15m out and create a contest.  Sydney really well drilled and cool under pressure.  Running kicking efficiency at 82% amazing

We juts need never to be favourites and we win, once people back us we wilt.

 

  

[rufus 916]

3 minutes ago, Boots and all said:

Real risk of missing finals now. Not that it matters, we can't defeat 'real' top 8 sides. We would be just making up the numbers. I wish we could kick straight, reminds me of the port game.

Except that it does matter...because we know that the MFC will need one finals series with the excuse of 'it was our first finals series in ages so we were a bit overawed'. Now we may have to wait another 12 months to get that one out  of the way.

[Mazer Rackham 14,968]

4 minutes ago, DaveyJones'sLocker said:

last year we set a record for lowest finals miss by % we will set a new record this year highest percentage and still miss finals.

There's always next year! We'll find another novel way to f*** it up. What will it be? So exciting.

[Sir Why You Little 34,420]

It’s time for Jones to really think about retirement. 

Captains must stand up and show the way. 

At Training and on Game Day

that’s the credentials of a Captain...

[Demon Dynasty 15,213]

2 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

We bombed the ball inside 50. It was like Brent Moloney re-incarnated everytime we got the ball outside 50. Yeah, just bomb it in boys, that will do it. We haven't beaten a team inside the top 9. I don't know what it would take to sound out an experienced coach, but we need to do so whilst we have a quality list. There is no excuse to not lower your eyes going inside 50.

Or around the arc...if you cant find a target inside go around and at least retain possession.  The rated clubs do this.

We are far too predictable in so many ways once the ball passed mid field

[Jaded No More 57,683]

8 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I'm dirty on this loss, but I'll let the rest of the usual suspects lose the plot, slash their wrists and do the usual ranting and raving.  Seriously, go right ahead.

We lost this game today in front of goal.  Sure, they cut us up during periods of the game with their use by foot and our willingness to allow them space.  But we should never have let them win this game of footy.  When Hogan goaled and we were 3.7 it should have been 7.3, as we missed a slew of easy shots.  If we were 6 goals up then they would have been dead and buried.  But they weren't, they got a sniff and, as experienced sides do, they made their chances count when we didn't and we couldn't haul them back.

I must admit that I was bemused at times by some of our decision making, and the implied pressure of the Swans meant that we rushed things at times when we didn't need to.  We had every opportunity to win this game of footy, but we didn't make it count, and that's down to composure and skill execution under pressure.  It's not down to leadership and all that stuff.  We just didn't execute well under pressure.

We certainly lacked some class at times and too many players went missing, but this isn't the end of the world.  Seriously, it's not.  We've got two games to go - win one and we're in.  Simple as that.

You can keep apologizing and excusing the team. I applaud your optimism and blind faith. 

I want wins. I want success. Nothing else matters 

20 v 22 for the whole match and they still won. A disgrace. 

Edited August 12, 2018 by Jaded

[Mazer Rackham 14,968]

I saw some comments in the gameday thread about which method of losing would be the most Melbourne thing of all.

To squander early possession, give up a big lead, then claw it back and leave not enough time to get in front, that is the most Melbourne thing of all.

Watch us now blow it against WCE and drop out of the 8, then put in a huge effort against GWS where we fight gallantly and miss out on percentage again.

[ding 5,126]

Another year down the drain.

FFS i have been as positive as anyone for the last 2 months... even the Pollyannas who can never see a single bad thing about us.

I was wrong. Really, REALLY wrong.  Today was the day. Today. Not next week, not round 23.... TODAY.

We won't ever be a genuine threat whilst our so-called leadership is so insipid when we need them. I have been a huge supporter of Jonesy over the years, but I owe an apology to all the posters who claimed he wasn't much chop as a leader. You were right and I was wrong. Unless you manage to drag us over the line in one of the remaining games Nathan, you don't deserve to be captain of this club.

I am just so fukking angry AGAIN right now. You bastards owe me a new liver and 2 kidneys for all the alcohol I have consumed to cope with the disappointment you lot have inflicted.

ANOTHER WASTED YEAR!!!!!!!!!

AAARRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

*Pulls hair out.

P.S. Trade Hogan while he is worth something.

(My 76-year-old father just called while I was typing this.... he said "2 more weeks and the suffering is over"..... I practically screamed at him to GAGF.

I hate what this club has done to me.

Edited August 12, 2018 by ding

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,276]

3 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

with other results on the weekend, we need only to win 1 more game and we're in the 8 come september

Even if we can beat 2nd or 3rd on the Ladder (and I doubt)

We're not going to make an impression on September 

Those skills were terrible 

[Queanbeyan Demon 5,885]

9 minutes ago, drdrake said:

Nathan Jones chance to kick a captains goal out on the full.  Anyone that things we are mentally fragile is kidding themselves.  

He's on his way down the other side of the mountain?

[Mazer Rackham 14,968]

Lost by bad goal kicking. Scoreboard pressure, Demons means on the opponents, not on yourselves!!!
Bad kicking is bad football. 28 scoring shots to 22 and still lost by 2 goals. Disgraceful.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

1 minute ago, Jaded said:

You can keep apologizing and excusing the team. I applaud your optimism and blind faith. 

I want wins. I want success. Nothing else matters 

20 v 22 for the whole match and they still won. A disgrace. 

Kick straight and we win. Bad kicking is bad football, no doubt, but outside of the second half of the second term we were generally a better side. 

It's as simple as that. 

[MurDoc516 1,304]

Can we trade Nev Jetta to a good team so he doesn't have to play with a bunch of [censored] [censored] anymore

[olisik 4,060]

Our set shot kicking > 35m would have to be the worst in the competition. Even our own players know it they are all shot of confidence kicking from further out.

[grazman 6,414]

I actually think we might beat West Coast over there.  The ground dimensions suit us. We can't defend space and are absolutely shizen on the MCG.  I have no faith in Garlett or ANB in the furnace of pressure football.

[Mad_Melbourne 872]

Lost the game at selection, we picked a side that was too tall/too slow, they made the ground large and their smalls were always dangerous. 

 

Also, is any one else frustrated that we have the slowest and least agile smalls in ever. Gartlett and Hannan have speed and lateral movement but Spargo, JKH, Neal-Bullen(who can run) are slowish and very easily turned. 

 

 

[Drunkn167 5,093]

Why the hell did they bring in Hunt? '

I said on the DL podcast that he was out of form all year and off an injury had 1 quiet game in the 2's..... no surprises he had a shocker of a game

Boys did well to try and claw back in the last but once again inaccuracy costs us probably another finals berth

 

[Wiseblood 24,636]

6 minutes ago, praha said:

you're truly delusional. you don't lose games like that and factor in september. they were 2 players down and somehow managed to smash us in uncontested possessions. that is inexcusable.

Not delusional, just realistic. Go nuts though mate, if it helps.