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These types comparisons/hypotheses get thrown up so frequently to players without much sample size. It's great click bate!

That being said Oliver was a terrific mark at jnr level and while I certainly want him spending most of his time in the midfield I do prefer the swap with Petracca from mid to forward then I did with Trac/Hogan. It gives the midfield more balance and seems to allow better cohesion in the midfield with who is winning the ball at ground level and who is playing the outside mid role.

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Gotta say King makes a pretty solid case. He’s always been shifted forward towards the end of the game or once the result has been determined. I could be mistaken but I can’t recall it happening when trying to build an early lead.. It would be a brave move on Goodwin’s part to play him forward in the percentages King is talking about.

There are some nice lines in that article btw, including turning the goal square into “Red’s square”, but I think my favourite would have to be “..it’s just impossible to stop Clayton winning the football”. 

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I’d say Clayton Oliver can be our Clayton Oliver. All players are unique, especially when you’re talking about the best llayers, so I don’t really understand why there’s this need for the footy media to draw parallels all the time. There’s only one Clayton Oliver and there’s only one Dustin Martin.

That said, King makes some compelling arguments. Clarry said in the MFC podcast that he thinks he’ll be rotating more with Petracca between half forward and the midfield. It’s a salivating prospect if they can get to the point where they’re both fully firing.

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2 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I’d say Clayton Oliver can be our Clayton Oliver. All players are unique, especially when you’re talking about the best llayers, so I don’t really understand why there’s this need for the footy media to draw parallels all the time. There’s only one Clayton Oliver and there’s only one Dustin Martin.

And there's only one Tony Lockett ...

 

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12 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I’d say Clayton Oliver can be our Clayton Oliver. All players are unique, especially when you’re talking about the best llayers, so I don’t really understand why there’s this need for the footy media to draw parallels all the time. There’s only one Clayton Oliver and there’s only one Dustin Martin.

In the main ( very much so ) I fully concur. There's a bit of temptation though to do as outlined and have him in the square ( possibly resting as opposed off the field )

It's not without merit imho.

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5 minutes ago, Demonland said:

And there's only one Tony Lockett ...

 

Hahaha, I’d forgotten about that. That song is so cringeworthily 90s. Have to admit I watched all the way to the end though. Goosebumps at the kick that got them in to the 96 grand final.

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24 minutes ago, P-man said:

Gotta say King makes a pretty solid case. He’s always been shifted forward towards the end of the game or once the result has been determined. I could be mistaken but I can’t recall it happening when trying to build an early lead.. It would be a brave move on Goodwin’s part to play him forward in the percentages King is talking about.

There are some nice lines in that article btw, including turning the goal square into “Red’s square”, but I think my favourite would have to be “..it’s just impossible to stop Clayton winning the football”. 

I did chortle at the “phone booth brutality” that our mids bring.

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26 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I’d say Clayton Oliver can be our Clayton Oliver. All players are unique, especially when you’re talking about the best llayers, so I don’t really understand why there’s this need for the footy media to draw parallels all the time. There’s only one Clayton Oliver and there’s only one Dustin Martin.

That said, King makes some compelling arguments. Clarry said in the MFC podcast that he thinks he’ll be rotating more with Petracca between half forward and the midfield. It’s a salivating prospect if they can get to the point where they’re both fully firing.

Putting the comparisons with Dusty aside I would like to see Clarry spending some time "resting" in the forward line providing it does not negatively impact the output/productivity of our midfield.

Is cloning a thing yet?

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Having him rest fwd also upsets the oppos apple cart regards rotation etc (possibly )

 

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We are blessed in a matter of speaking that he has this special talent in winning the ball frequently. However we expect it and some of our young  talent can take a leaf out of his book and better themselves as well.

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This article is quite wrong!

what King should be saying is “if player X from club X works really hard, then in time he may/ could possibly be club X’s Clayton Oliver.”

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Putting the comparisons with Dusty aside I would like to see Clarry spending some time "resting" in the forward line providing it does not negatively impact the output/productivity of our midfield.

Is cloning a thing yet?

Ask Dolly the sheep ? 

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David King is spot on.   Oliver  the total package.. he is a great overhead mark, great kick and he knows where the goals are. His football brain is off the charts.  He hasn't had a chance to show it all at once as he spends so much time at the coalface feeding the ball out to his teammates.

. The final product will be something special, even more special than it already is.

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I love the idea of Clarry spending more time forward.  He seems so self assured and confident in his own ability.  Cool under pressure and keeps things simple. (I can't imagine that he would ever get the goalkicking 'yips' a la Tracc, for example).  Just a very good young footballer, who has 'future champion' written all over him.  The sort who will win us matches off his own boot one day.

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