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Question to those who watched the game:  Did Tyson play inside mid?

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5 hours ago, Demonland said:

 Statistics

Oskar Baker 1 goal 9 kicks 3 handballs 12 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 50 dream team points
Tomas Bugg 6 kicks 6 handballs 12 disposals 2 marks 5 tackles 54 dream team points
Lachlan Filipovic 2 kicks 7 handballs 9 disposals 2 marks 1 tackle 16 hit outs 44 dream team points
Mitch Gent 6 kicks 4 handballs 10 disposals 1 mark 29 dream team points
Jack Hutchins 8 kicks 6 handballs 14 disposals 1 mark 1 tackles 43 dream team points
Declan Keilty 5 kicks 6 handballs 11 disposals 3 marks 34 dream team points
Dean Kent 11 kicks 4 handballs 15 disposals 6 marks 4 tackles 70 dream team points
Mitchell King 4 kicks 4 handballs 8 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 32 hit outs 55 dream team points
Jay Lockhart 1 behind 11 kicks 5 handballs 16 disposals 5 marks 4 tackles 67 dream team points
Goy Lok 1 goal 9 kicks 5 handballs 14 disposals 3 marks 1 tackle 53 dream team points
Pat McKenna 7 kicks 5 handballs 12 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 42 dream team points
Corey Machaya 1 behind 4 kicks 7 handballs 11 disposals 1 mark 4 tackles 43 dream team points
James Munro 2 goals 8 kicks 8 handballs 16 disposals 4 marks 9 tackles 96 dream team points
Cameron Pedersen 1 goal 17 kicks 8 handballs 25 disposals 7 marks 4 tackles 110 dream team points  
Harrison Petty 3 kicks 8 handballs 11 disposals 2 marks 1 tackle 36 dream team points  
Angus Scott 1 goal 10 kicks 6 handballs 16 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 63 dream team points
Tim Smith 1 goal 2 behinds 6 kicks 3 handballs 9 disposals 4 marks 4 tackles 2 hit outs 57 dream team points
Corey Stockdale 4 kicks 4 handballs 8 disposals 8 tackles 46 dream team points
Dom Tyson 12 kicks 13 handballs 25 disposals 4 marks 12 tackles 121 dream team points
Aaron vandenBerg 1 goal 7 kicks 13 handballs 20 disposals 1 mark 8 tackles 82 dream team points
Corey Wagner 1 goal 18 kicks 7 handballs 25 disposals 2 marks 17 tackles 149 dream team points
Josh Wagner 9 kicks 8 handballs 17 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 60 dream team points
Sam Weideman 4 goals 1 behind 10 kicks 7 handballs 17 disposals 6 marks 3 tackles 7 hit outs 104 dream team points

Holy guacamole!!! Corey Wagner's stats look really good.

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8 hours ago, Demonland said:


Harrison Petty 3 kicks 8 handballs 11 disposals 2 marks 1 tackle 36 dream team points  

Based (only) on the stats, perhaps his confidence has taken a bit of a hit ...

Learning curve.

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I can see VDBerg pushing for a senior spot in the next couple of weeks. He gives us some x-factor and can be a difficult match up for any opposition. 

Can penetrate the goals outside 50 and takes strong a grab. Good size and tackles! 💪🏼

He is in our best 22 when fit! Definitely has an impact and makes us a stronger side. 

Plonk him at Half-Forward for mine... 

If both VDBerg and Petracca can hit form in the same side watch out! Delicious Bruce... 😋

I wouldn’t be surprised if he plays against Adelaide.

He is a player Goody wants in his side.

Cant wait! 🕺🏻

 

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20 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Base (only) on the stats, perhaps his confidence has taken a bit of a hit ...

Learning curve.

He did cop a broken finger in the first quarter.

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Vandenberg with 8 tackles on top of 6 last week....

Could he be the wildcard to our journey to the finals!??

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2 hours ago, Drunkn167 said:

He did cop a broken finger in the first quarter.

Fair enough then ...

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On 7/15/2018 at 4:45 PM, Petraccattack said:

This post has not aged well.

Always entertaining Trac.

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14 hours ago, Drunkn167 said:

He did cop a broken finger in the first quarter.

How did McKenna go Drunkn? Did he get through the game OK?

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57 minutes ago, hells bells said:

How did McKenna go Drunkn? Did he get through the game OK?

Yeah he got through. Made a couple of mistakes (1 in particular I remember turned into a oppo goal) but had some nice touches too. Will take him a while to get back into the swing of it.

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On 7/15/2018 at 7:08 PM, spirit of norm smith said:

From today 

- Weideman is AFL ready. He needs to be considered in our structure. Is it Hogan and Tom McDonald only. Where does the Weid fit in??

- Jay Lockhart is ready for AFL. He is not rookie material. He is National Draft material.  Our next Casey recruit. He need him as cover for Jetta but he is already good to go  

- Corey Wagner could be grabbed by another club. Too good for VFL. I don’t know if he fits in as we have similar types

- Dom Tyson must come in if Viney is out for a few more weeks. He starred again today and must replace Hannan. If we don’t, then we have to let him go to Suns or Blues 

Given Viney's absence, and the fact that Tyson keeps bobbing up as a performer in the twos, as with Wagner who both should play, the Geelong game looms as a Geelong win if we do not do something to increase our possession count and inside 50s - where we miss goals too frequently.

Forwards of all types must be more mobile to space against the slower teams, such as Geelong.

Brayshaw, Gawn and Oliver emphasised our mid-strength against the Doggies and thankfully, in the third quarter last weekend, they flicked the switch and made the lights flash brightly again.

Hogan and other forwards played a little too far from goal, as well, leaving acreage behind them for very large portions of the game, even in the last half. In order to get the goals to beat the Cats, we need run and then some more run, and to finish it off, some more run to space, enabling our talented smalls to get to the goalmouth time and again where loneliness is the hunter. 

To achieve this, space on the backline and flanks needs to be made for the likes of Fritsch, Harmes, (Stretch if available), Kent, vandenBerg, Wagner - providing some 'get better, get angry' time for Vince, Lewis, Omac and even Nev, having Casey time. Jones needs to get angry on the HBFlank to see out a full game, JKH to the back pocket for Nev, Spargo to fwd pocket / fwd roving, Baker to the Wing. Frosty to full back alongside the Weed at backpocket. Pedo at CHB with cross-overs to the Weid at backpocket. Petracca to be given an Araldite bum for the HFflank and ANB on the other. 

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15 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Given Viney's absence, and the fact that Tyson keeps bobbing up as a performer in the twos, as with Wagner who both should play, the Geelong game looms as a Geelong win if we do not do something to increase our possession count and inside 50s - where we miss goals too frequently.

Forwards of all types must be more mobile to space against the slower teams, such as Geelong.

Brayshaw, Gawn and Oliver emphasised our mid-strength against the Doggies and thankfully, in the third quarter last weekend, they flicked the switch and made the lights flash brightly again.

Hogan and other forwards played a little too far from goal, as well, leaving acreage behind them for very large portions of the game, even in the last half. In order to get the goals to beat the Cats, we need run and then some more run, and to finish it off, some more run to space, enabling our talented smalls to get to the goalmouth time and again where loneliness is the hunter. 

To achieve this, space on the backline and flanks needs to be made for the likes of Fritsch, Harmes, (Stretch if available), Kent, vandenBerg, Wagner - providing some 'get better, get angry' time for Vince, Lewis, Omac and even Nev, having Casey time. Jones needs to get angry on the HBFlank to see out a full game, JKH to the back pocket for Nev, Spargo to fwd pocket / fwd roving, Baker to the Wing. Frosty to full back alongside the Weed at backpocket. Pedo at CHB with cross-overs to the Weid at backpocket. Petracca to be given an Araldite bum for the HFflank and ANB on the other. 

WOW! Guess you were not happy with our win on Saturday. But 7 changes?!

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1 hour ago, Drunkn167 said:

Yeah he got through. Made a couple of mistakes (1 in particular I remember turned into a oppo goal) but had some nice touches too. Will take him a while to get back into the swing of it.

What position was vanders playing @Drunkn167?

Just on a personal note has the club sat down with Keilty in regards to next year? I feel like hes right on the tipping point of getting a game but just cant seem to crack in unfortunately. 

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25 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

WOW! Guess you were not happy with our win on Saturday. But 7 changes?!

Yep, I was more relieved than happy that the Dees turned it on in the Doggies game, just in time. We were too dependent on Gawn, Oliver and Brayshaw for our own good. These guys were formidable and will be again and again.

They flicked the switch but it was the Doggies who - with the usual umpiring interference - challenged us all over the ground for some time.

We had too much space unattended without gap filling by mobiles in the first half and we kicked to contested packs all first half. Had it been Geelong, the Filth, the Swans, Hawthorn or others in the rankings, we would have been cooked at half-time.

Our run is there, our ability to find space and incorporate excellent hand and foot passing is there but it is not a full game of efforts in these regards.

At both ends of the ground we were consistently out of position looking only for midfield dominance at the contest without space-finding play makers. There were, of course, plenty of exceptions to this impression but it did not come to fruition until 10mins into the third quarter when Gawn, Oliver and Brayshaw had a second-go at righting the wrongs.

To my mind (and this is most probably uniquely my impression) if 7 changes are needed, then 7 changes should occur. Until then, I cannot clearly see a full game of dominant play. The emphasis is on clearly seeing this occur, as in a couple of matches earlier in the year. Until then, I can only see the need for revivals of form and intent throughout any game. The competition, after all, is moderately even; what we need are the 'breaks', all game.

 

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1 hour ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Yep, I was more relieved than happy that the Dees turned it on in the Doggies game, just in time. We were too dependent on Gawn, Oliver and Brayshaw for our own good. These guys were formidable and will be again and again.

They flicked the switch but it was the Doggies who - with the usual umpiring interference - challenged us all over the ground for some time.

We had too much space unattended without gap filling by mobiles in the first half and we kicked to contested packs all first half. Had it been Geelong, the Filth, the Swans, Hawthorn or others in the rankings, we would have been cooked at half-time.

Our run is there, our ability to find space and incorporate excellent hand and foot passing is there but it is not a full game of efforts in these regards.

At both ends of the ground we were consistently out of position looking only for midfield dominance at the contest without space-finding play makers. There were, of course, plenty of exceptions to this impression but it did not come to fruition until 10mins into the third quarter when Gawn, Oliver and Brayshaw had a second-go at righting the wrongs.

To my mind (and this is most probably uniquely my impression) if 7 changes are needed, then 7 changes should occur. Until then, I cannot clearly see a full game of dominant play. The emphasis is on clearly seeing this occur, as in a couple of matches earlier in the year. Until then, I can only see the need for revivals of form and intent throughout any game. The competition, after all, is moderately even; what we need are the 'breaks', all game.

 

It sounds like you’ve put a lot of thought in to this, but 7 changes to a side that won by 50 points is just not going to happen. It might have been an imperfect game against ordinary opposition, but more went right than wrong. The clubs also place a great deal of importance on keeping the sides stable - above all else at times - you seem to have ignored that completely. 

If there’s any more than 1 change I’ll be stunned. I don’t think I ever saw 7 changes made when we were the worst side ever.

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23 hours ago, Spirit of the Demon said:

Holy guacamole!!! Corey Wagner's stats look really good.

He does show glimpses for sure!  Might turn out better than bro

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