Jump to content

Discussion on recent allegations about the use of illicit drugs in football is forbidden
  • IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING

    Posting unsubstantiated rumours on this website is strictly forbidden.

    Demonland has made the difficult decision to not permit this platform to be used to discuss & debate the off-field issues relating to the Melbourne Football Club including matters currently being litigated between the Club & former Board members, board elections, the issue of illicit drugs in footy, the culture at the club & the personal issues & allegations against some of our players & officials ...

    We do not take these issues & this decision lightly & of course we believe that these serious matters affecting the club we love & are so passionate about are worthy of discussion & debate & I wish we could provide a place where these matters can be discussed in a civil & respectful manner.

    However these discussions unfortunately invariably devolve into areas that may be defamatory, libelous, spread unsubstantiated rumours & can effect the mental health of those involved. Even discussion & debate of known facts or media reports can lead to finger pointing, blame & personal attacks.

    The repercussion is that these discussions can open this website, it’s owners & it’s users to legal action & may result in this website being forced to shutdown.

    Our moderating team are all volunteers & cannot moderate the forum 24/7 & as a consequence problematic content that contravenes our rules & standards may go unnoticed for some time before it can be removed.

    We reserve the right to delete posts that offend against our above policy & indeed, to ban posters who are repeat offenders or who breach our code of conduct.

    WE HAVE BUILT A FANTASTIC ONLINE COMMUNITY AT DEMONLAND OVER THE PAST 23 YEARS & WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE CLUB WE LOVE & ARE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.

    Thank you for your continued support & understanding. Go Dees.


Clarry "one of the best to emerge in last 20 years"


Demonland

Recommended Posts

4 hours ago, tiers said:

From one who saw the Teddy Whitten inspired "flick pass" phenomenon come and go, Clarrie's handballs are nothing like a flick pass.

He obviously has the most flexible, rotatable wrists that ensure that the ball is struck by a closed fist each time, not by an open back hand that was the feature of flick passes.

 

Obviously it's not the same. I was only using it as a comparison but he doesn't handball in the traditional sense - still legal though

Link to comment
Share on other sites

His original Youtube Highlights clip showed it all. 

We have one of the great AFL bargains. 

Clayton is number 1 Draft Material

$cully and Trengove were right out of their depth, as was our administration of the day. 

Clayton hunts the ball. That is his job

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Redraft the thread title

Clarry "one of the best to emerge in last 20 years"

 

  • Love 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Isn’t it amazing that he was nearly lost to AFL as he wasn’t fit enough. I think he couldn’t train due to the drive??? 

 

Lost four kilos a couple of weeks before draft camp as he didn’t think he was attending. 

 

Watching him makes me wonder what other ‘talent’ hasn’t made it due to their location etc 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

When he changes his handball to kick to handball ratio and kicks a few more goals (you cant handball a goal yet) he will win a Brownlow - something not achieved by MFC since 2000.

Otherwise, he compares favourably to Dustin Martin - and we all know what he achieved last year.

Clarry to Martin (Averages per match this year)

Marks 2.6 to 3.4

Goals .5 to 1.5

kicks 9.1 to 14

handballs 19.2 to 10

contested possession 16 to 11

clearances 7.3 to 5.4

tackles 7.7 to 1.7

inside 50's 4.5 to 5.2 (more kicks will improve this)

metres gained 328.5 to 423 (more kicks will improve this too)

So yep  I think he is the most exciting talent we have uncovered for a long time

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

It is a myth we don't have leg speed, salam is quick, viney is quick, Clayton is quick, Bradshaw is also quick, can't believe how many think we are slow, it is not true, hibbo is also quick. 

Bradshaw is so quick I didn't even see him. 

  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites


Can I just say 1 last time , I shook Clarry's hand in the supermarket just after he got drafted. I thought I noticed something special about that hand.

  • Like 1
  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 hours ago, tiers said:

Why has it taken so long for the so called experts to realise this simple fact? It was apparent from the start.

Clayton plays his own game unlike anyone before. His vision, awareness and football smarts are outstanding but, in addition, his ability to win the ball in close and distribute quickly to advantage set him apart.

His tackling, running, contested marking and strong kicking would almost be enough even without his extraordinary talents.

I have noticed that his "don't blink or you will miss it" hand passes are catching on amongst his teammates who have improved greatly in their disposal. It also helps that when we are winning players are willing to run to good positions to receive.

This 'running to good position' is now the key to success in our game.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Two things. Still no-one's talking about how good of a kick he is. This isn't a "get Clarry to kick it more" post. Moreso I'd just love to see folks talk his footskills up more. When he does get boot to ball to go inside fifty or to kick at goal, he is as good as you would ever want a kid to be by foot. 

Second thing... We should really scoff at the AA selectors. Averaging around 30 touches with a truckload of tackles and clearances. He'll do that (or better) his whole career, and still will get shunted to the bench, or even onto the squad for the AA side. It's a joke he wasn't in the team last year, so if he gets in this year, it'll only make that decision more ridiculous, as he's had an identical season.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

He is so clean inside of a contest. Right at the point where players panic, Oliver seems to relish. I don't think I have seen a player so good on close. He is exceptional in tight. For that reason I think he may be one of the greats by the time he is done. Most us probably believe that by now. The media is just catching on because opposition fans don't like Oliver for his incidents in the past.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

He is so clean inside of a contest. Right at the point where players panic, Oliver seems to relish.

Remember when Scully was recruited the talk was he was a professional athlete with Simon Black hands. He's a good player, but his hands in juniors didn't come through to seniors. He's just a hard running distance machine now. Clarry though, somehow went to another level once he started playing with the grown ups. You could see he was good in tight, but no-one could have seen he'd be THIS good.

I'd love to sit down and chat to the recruiters and actually get them to walk me through the last two weeks when we had Parish earmarked, and what EXACTLY they saw that compelled them to take a late flyer at such an early pick. Was it what they've seen from him as an MFC player? Were they projecting? Was it his "type" as an inside ballwinner?

And as another side note... we made a bid for Mills... Imagine if they let us have him? I know many say Mills is a star, but I have Oliver ahead of him by a  mile. In fact that draft year, I have only Curnow threatening him as best of his class.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Players like Mitchell became renowned for their handballing ability when in the clear and could send penetrating handballs to team mates who were positioned to receive.

Clarrie is different and a type we have not seen before. He hunts the ball in close, tackles hard, wins the hard ball and delivers it with menacing purpose to a teammate who is generally close. Not for him the luxury of standing at the back of the pack and waiting for the ball to be delivered. He gets it and releases it.

As for the peculiarities and perversions of the AA team selection, for as long as he works in close and his magic is not clearly evident (think of Bruce's comment in the 3Q yesterday), he will be overlooked until we achieve team success and the so called experts and commentators get on the bandwagon.

For the time being, I am enjoying the private pleasure of watching him play his game while building to team success. We will then be able to say that we knew it all along. Sweet!

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

33 minutes ago, Dappa Dan said:

I'd love to sit down and chat to the recruiters and actually get them to walk me through the last two weeks when we had Parish earmarked, and what EXACTLY they saw that compelled them to take a late flyer at such an early pick. Was it what they've seen from him as an MFC player? Were they projecting? Was it his "type" as an inside ballwinner?

And as another side note... we made a bid for Mills... Imagine if they let us have him? I know many say Mills is a star, but I have Oliver ahead of him by a  mile. In fact that draft year, I have only Curnow threatening him as best of his class.

Everytime I watch Oliver play I am thankful we picked him ahead of Parish. Imagine the uproar if we had've let Oliver slip? It would be crazy. Lyon is right, Oliver is the best kid to emerge in the last 20 years. We would be slitting our wrists if we overlooked him.

Edited by KingDingAling
  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites


10 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

If they made a MENSA society for footy geniuses, Oliver would be first invited.

His football IQ is off the charts.

 

Its interesting that from the start he's had a lot to say on the field at set up time, prior to centre bounce etc. , contributing to the disicussions with Jones, Gawn, Viney. He was very vocal yesterday. Just feels like a leader and belongs in the engine room. He said a few weeks ago his re-signing was a "..no brainer..."

He's part of the scariest demon midfield Iv'e seen (since 1967)

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

Its interesting that from the start he's had a lot to say on the field at set up time, prior to centre bounce etc. , contributing to the disicussions with Jones, Gawn, Viney. He was very vocal yesterday. Just feels like a leader and belongs in the engine room. He said a few weeks ago his re-signing was a "..no brainer..."

He's part of the scariest demon midfield Iv'e seen (since 1967)

He's not a leader. He just knows a shitload about footy. Why would he not talk?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, Chook said:

He's not a leader. He just knows a shitload about footy. Why would he not talk?

 

3 minutes ago, Chook said:

 

As the great John McEnroe said:

"...you cannot be serious.."

Do you understand the various leadership qualiites?

Such as " follow me"  as a prime example, train hard, play hard, look how I play ... etc.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    DEPTH CHARGE by Whispering Jack

    The jubilation on the coach’s face as he danced a celebratory jig by the playing bench after the final siren sounded to record his team’s four-point victory over the Demons when the teams last met, said it all.    On that rainy Friday night at the Adelaide Oval, Ken Hinkley’s young midfield secured much more than four points on offer. The victory over one of the big dogs of the competition after a succession of wins over some of its lesser lights gave his team respect and validation fo

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Monday 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training. DEMON DYNASTY'S TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Kade Chandler's left knee heavily strapped. BBB, Spargs & Jake Lever also in rehab group. Jake Bowey solo running separate kicking/sprint/agility drills. Super fine morning / early arvo at Gosch's for the boys to blow out some cobwebs. Choco initially had the light duties / rehab group

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    HIBERNATING by KC from Casey

    When they locked up the rooms for summer at the end of last year’s football season, the rooms gathered cobwebs, the atmosphere became dense and the place developed a sleepy feel. They opened up the rooms to let Casey out to play on Sunday but the team was still hibernating and they missed the bulk of the opening quarter. By the time they worked out it was game on, their opponents from Box Hill had accumulated five goals and, if the game wasn’t over, it might as well have been. For a se

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    A FORK IN THE HAWK by George on the Outer

    For too long in the past, Demon fans became habitually sick and tired of watching the Hawks hand out thrashings to their side. But Melbourne’s empahtic 55-point win at the MCG on Saturday has truly put a fork in the Hawk and turned that history well and truly on its head. The Demons have now won nine of their last ten encounters with the other result, a draw.     And like a fork, it was the multi-pronged options that Melbourne had all across the ground.  It certainly helped that Hawthorn

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports 8

    PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

    The Demons head on the road for the next 2 weeks as they travel to Adelaide to play Port on Saturday and then have a 5 Day break before facing the Crows in the Gather Round. With injuries to May and Lever who comes in and who goes out?

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 262

    PODCAST: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 25th March @ 8:30pm. Join George, Binman & I as we analyse the Demons victory at the MCG against the Hawks in the Round 02. You questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human. Listen & Chat

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 46

    VOTES: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    Last week Steven May took the lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Jack Viney. Clayton Oliver & Max Gawn round out the Top 4. Your votes for the win/loss against/to the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 50

    POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons cruised to an easy 55 point win over the Hawks at the MCG but but paid a heavy toll on the injury front with Steven May & Jake Lever possibly sidelined for a number of weeks.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 357

    GAMEDAY: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    It's Game Day and after mixed results in the first two weeks of the season the Demons have the opportunity to capitalise on their good form last week when they take on the Hawks at the MCG today.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 437
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast Stream 


    Open Stream in
    New Window
        TuneIn    Opens in New Tab
  • Support Demonland  



  • 2021 Premiership  

  • Social Media 

  • Non MFC Games  

    NON-MFC: Round 03

    Discussion of all the other games that don't involve the Demons in Round 03 ... READ MORE

    Demonland | Round 03

  • Match Preview      

    DEPTH CHARGE by Whispering Jack

    The jubilation on the coach’s face as he danced a celebratory jig by the playing bench after the final siren sounded to record his team’s four-point victory over the Demons when the teams last met, said it all ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 27

  • Latest Podcast      

    PODCAST: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The boys dissected the clinical thrashing of Hawks praising the immense performance of Christian Petracca whilst lamenting the injury toll to our defensive unit ... LISTEN

    Demonland | March 26

  • Training  

    Monday, 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • Casey Report      

    HIBERNATING by KC from Casey

    When they locked up the rooms for summer at the end of last year’s football season, the rooms gathered cobwebs, the atmosphere became dense and the place developed a sleepy feel. They opened up the rooms to let Casey out to play on Sunday but the team was still hibernating and they missed the bulk of the opening quarter ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • PreGame      

    PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Port Adelaide

    The Demons head out on the road for the next 2 weeks as they travel to Adelaide to play Port on Saturday and then have a 5 Day break before facing the Crows in Gather Round. With injuries to May and Lever who comes in and who goes out? ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 28

  • Match Report      

    A FORK IN THE HAWK by George on the Outer

    For too long in the past, Demon fans became habitually sick and tired of watching the Hawks hand out thrashings to their side. But Melbourne’s empahtic 55-point win at the MCG on Saturday has truly put a fork in the Hawk and turned that history well and truly on its head ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Post Game      

    POSTGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    The Demons cruised to an easy 55 point win over the Hawks at the MCG but but paid a heavy toll on the injury front with Steven May & Jake Lever possibly sidelined for a number of weeks ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Votes      

    VOTES: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

    Last week Steven May took the lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Jack Viney. Clayton Oliver & Max Gawn round out the Top 4. Your votes for the win/loss against/to the Hawks. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ...READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Game Day      

    GAMEDAY: Round 02 vs Hawthorn

    It's Game Day and after mixed results in the first two weeks of the season the Demons have the opportunity to capitalise on their good form last week when they take on the Hawks at the MCG today ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 23

  • Training  

    Friday, 22nd March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin and I attended the Captain's Run at Gosch's Paddock on this lovely sunny morning to bring you the following observations from the training session ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 22

  • Training  

    Tuesday, 19th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin & Walking Civil War attended Tuesday morning's training session at Gosch's Paddock to bring you the following observations ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 19

  • Training  

    Saturday, 16th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin and Dee Zephyr wandered down to Gosch's Paddock on Saturday morning to bring you their observations from the Captain's Run in the lead up to Sunday's Round One match against the Bulldogs ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 16

  • Farewell  

    Angus Brayshaw Retires

    After 167 games including the drought breaking Premiership Angus Brayshaw has made the heart breaking decision to medically retire from football as a result of a series of serious head knocks over his nearly decade of footy. We wish Gus all the best and he'll always be a hero at Demonland ... READ MORE

    Demonland | February 22

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Koltyn Tholstrup Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club’s newest recruit Koltyn Tholstrup to have a chat about his journey from the farm to the Demons, his first few weeks of preseason training, which Dees have impressed him on the track and his aspirations of playing Round 1 ... LISTEN

    Demonland | December 14

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Jason Taylor Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club's National Recruitment Manager Jason Taylor to have a chat about our Trade and Draft period, our newest recruits, our recent recruits who have yet to debut as well as those father son prospects on the horizon ... LISTEN

    Demonland | November 27

  • Next Match 

    .

    Round 03

       vs   

    Saturday 30th March 2024
    @ 07:30pm (AO)

  • MFC Forum  

  • Match Previews & Reports  

  • Training Forum  

  • AFLW Forum  

  • 2024 Player Sponsorship

  • Topics

  • Injury List  


      PLAYER INJURY LENGTH
    Jake Lever Knee Test
    Clayton Oliver Hand Test
    Oliver Sestan Concussion Test
    Steven May Ribs 1 Week
    Lachie Hunter Calf 1 Week
    Daniel Turner Hip 2-3 Weeks
    Charlie Spargo Achilles 2-4 Weeks
    Shane McAdam Hamstring 3-5 Weeks
    Jake Bowey Shoulder 7 Weeks
    Jake Melksham ACL 12-14 Weeks
    Joel Smith Suspension TBA

  • Player of the Year  


        PLAYER VOTES
    1 Christian Petracca 27
    2 Steven May 25
    3 Max Gawn 21
    4 Jack Viney 20
    5 Bayley Fritsch 19
    6 Clayton Oliver 18
    7 Christian Salem 12
    8 Blake Howes 11
    9 Jack Billings 10
    9 Alex Neal-Bullen 10

        FULL TABLE
  • Demonland Interviews 



  • Upcoming Events 

×
×
  • Create New...