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1 hour ago, ProDee said:

Tell me something I don't know.

Muslims are doing this abhorrent practice in the West and for you to accept this practice anywhere tells me all I need to know about you.  Defend the side, no matter the issue.  Classic brain dead Leftism.  It's a mental illness.

That said, you didn't know poor cooking practices kill millions of people each year, so not much surprises me when it comes to your views.

Have you ever thought of a career in the Diplomatic Corp Pro? Such subtle language. 

Of course I can’t tell you something you don’t know because you know everything, that is a given, you are omniscient. A legend in your own mind! 

Now back to reality

Did you read my post? I said it is a barbaric practice I do NOT condone it but I am at a loss about what I can do about it. It is practiced across numerous poor and uneducated communities in Africa and Asia, irrespective of their religions. CHRISTIANS Do It TOO! SO ARE YOU A BRAIN DEAD RIGHTY? 

These modern religions of Islam and Christianity are an add on to the beliefs of communities that have an animist past and continue their old practices.  There are many stories of African people that worship in a Christian Church but still believe in spirits and demons, what we would deem to be superstitious rubbish. But that is our thinking, not theirs. 

And for the record I challenged your take on poor cooking practices on the grounds of context, relevance to your war on Islam. I still can’t make sense of it.

I am aware of the issue. I give to charities such as World Vision so I get plenty of information on Third World problems thank you very much. 

And please can you make sure you take your medicine. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Have you ever thought of a career in the Diplomatic Corp Pro? Such subtle language. 

Of course I can’t tell you something you don’t know because you know everything, that is a given, you are omniscient. A legend in your own mind! 

Now back to reality

Did you read my post? I said it is a barbaric practice I do NOT condone it but I am at a loss about what I can do about it. It is practiced across numerous poor and uneducated communities in Africa and Asia, irrespective of their religions. CHRISTIANS Do It TOO! SO ARE YOU A BRAIN DEAD RIGHTY? 

These modern religions of Islam and Christianity are an add on to the beliefs of communities that have an animist past and continue their old practices.  There are many stories of African people that worship in a Christian Church but still believe in spirits and demons, what we would deem to be superstitious rubbish. But that is our thinking, not theirs. 

And for the record I challenged your take on poor cooking practices on the grounds of context, relevance to your war on Islam. I still can’t make sense of it.

I am aware of the issue. I give to charities such as World Vision so I get plenty of information on Third World problems thank you very much. 

And please can you make sure you take your medicine. 

 

This thread is about the West.

What Christians in the West practice this ?

And yes, you do condone it.

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1 minute ago, ProDee said:

This thread is about the West.

What Christians in the West practice this ?

And yes, you do condone it.

Hey weren’t you on about soot in the third world yesterday? Now it is all about the West!

I said I don’t condone the practice but you are now telling me I do!  

Do Christians practice in the West? Are you inferring that this practice is only abhorrent if it is done in the West? 

In short are you a complete idiot? 

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20 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Have you ever thought of a career in the Diplomatic Corp Pro? Such subtle language. 

Of course I can’t tell you something you don’t know because you know everything, that is a given, you are omniscient. A legend in your own mind! 

Now back to reality

Did you read my post? I said it is a barbaric practice I do NOT condone it but I am at a loss about what I can do about it. It is practiced across numerous poor and uneducated communities in Africa and Asia, irrespective of their religions. CHRISTIANS Do It TOO! SO ARE YOU A BRAIN DEAD RIGHTY? 

These modern religions of Islam and Christianity are an add on to the beliefs of communities that have an animist past and continue their old practices.  There are many stories of African people that worship in a Christian Church but still believe in spirits and demons, what we would deem to be superstitious rubbish. But that is our thinking, not theirs. 

And for the record I challenged your take on poor cooking practices on the grounds of context, relevance to your war on Islam. I still can’t make sense of it.

I am aware of the issue. I give to charities such as World Vision so I get plenty of information on Third World problems thank you very much. 

And please can you make sure you take your medicine. 

 

Not the diplomatic corp, Earl. Pro's big regret is that he wasn't born in Austria in about 1890. He could have really made a name for himself then.

 

Now go to bed and stop supporting FGM and Third World soot.

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, Rafiki said:

Would the world be better without islam? Curious what everyone thinks.

Hi Raf

I think the world would be better off if one's relationship with the Divine was regarded as a personal matter.

So I don't think much of any organised religion - they all seem to attract a few decent people, but the power-hungry wa*&#kers float to the top.(That said, I quite like Quakers)

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8 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Hey weren’t you on about soot in the third world yesterday? Now it is all about the West!

I said I don’t condone the practice but you are now telling me I do!  

Do Christians practice in the West? Are you inferring that this practice is only abhorrent if it is done in the West? 

In short are you a complete idiot? 

Once again, this is about the infiltration of Islam in the West.  I'm not overly interested what they do in the Middle East, although I recognise how benighted their culture is.

You said that you cannot "rail against Islam" for their practice of genital mutilation.  Swine worthy.

You ought be ashamed.  But your Leftist tribe mentality allows you to somehow reconcile this point of view.

As I keep saying, Leftism is a mental illness.  Good luck.

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3 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Once again, this is about the infiltration of Islam in the West.  I'm not overly interested what they do in the Middle East, although I recognise how benighted their culture is.

You said that you cannot "rail against Islam" for their practice of genital mutilation.  Swine worthy.

You ought be ashamed.  But your Leftist tribe mentality allows you to somehow reconcile this point of view.

As I keep saying, Leftism is a mental illness.  Good luck.

Your too thick to work it out aren’t you Pro. My point is FGM is not directly related to Islamic  beliefs. Muslims and Christians and other animist communities in Africa and Asia carry out practice and have done for millennia. Through decades of immigration, this practice has unfortunetly come through to the West.  We can only hope better education and community pressure brings it to an end. Absolutely nothing to do with lefty mental illness.

That is why I do not rail against one particular group on this issue.

By the way have I missed you marching in the streets on this issue? 

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19 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Your too thick to work it out aren’t you Pro. My point is FGM is not directly related to Islamic  beliefs. Muslims and Christians and other animist communities in Africa and Asia carry out practice and have done for millennia. Through decades of immigration, this practice has unfortunetly come through to the West.  We can only hope better education and community pressure brings it to an end. Absolutely nothing to do with lefty mental illness.

That is why I do not rail against one particular group on this issue.

By the way have I missed you marching in the streets on this issue? 

It's "you're".  I'm glad you prefaced it with the word "thick".

Don't try absolving Islam with FGM.  It's customary and widespread.  

Listen carefully.  It doesn't matter if it's in the Qur'an, or has its origins elsewhere, female circumcision has become entrenched in Islamic communities.  It is practiced in Islam MORE than any other communities.  It is practiced by Muslims illegally in the West.

You really are a disgrace for defending this practice in Islam.

 

 

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51 minutes ago, ProDee said:

It's "you're".  I'm glad you prefaced it with the word "thick".

Don't try absolving Islam with FGM.  It's customary and widespread.  

Listen carefully.  It doesn't matter if it's in the Qur'an, or has its origins elsewhere, female circumcision has become entrenched in Islamic communities.  It is practiced in Islam MORE than any other communities.  It is practiced by Muslims illegally in the West.

You really are a disgrace for defending this practice in Islam.

 

 

Sorry I can’t listen carefully to something you have written, I can only read it. But no matter, you refuse to recognise the false premise of your argument. Oh FGM is practised MORE in Islamic communities than others. Is it? I don’t know the absolute numbers but for umpteenth time I am not defending the practice, but I suspect you are too wedded to a side, the wrong side by the way.

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 Yes, Earl,  you're a disgrace. Your grammar is hopeless. Now off to bed.

And Pro, congrats,  you're the grammar king. Well done on picking up the "your". But you let the side down with that  "absolving Islam with FGM". What's that supposed to mean? How do you absolve a religion with FGM?  Sloppy work there Pro. 

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9 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Sorry I can’t listen carefully to something you have written, I can only read it. But no matter, you refuse to recognise the false premise of your argument. Oh FGM is practised MORE in Islamic communities than others. Is it? I don’t know the absolute numbers but for umpteenth time I am not defending the practice, but I suspect you are too wedded to a side, the wrong side by the way.

What's this! Pro doesn't do sides. He only does causes. 

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On 6/6/2018 at 11:59 AM, Biffen said:

Well done Pro Dee for maintaining a civil discourse with our brethren.I have less antipathy for people trying to escape Muslim countries than those who decry our own citizens as racists . Self-hating Europeans are very nearly as ridiculous as the islamic doctrine.

Nothing civil about his discourse, lazy and without personal insight, on a par with children calling names. @ProDee @ethan @biffen @faulty there are as many deaths committed by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism  And as many insults as you throw I know three things, you are scared, and thats ok, not everyone gets to be brave, tolerance does not equal leftist (makes me chuckle at a silly attempt to put us in a box, being a racist has nothing to do with politics) and lastly FFS you have no idea about Islam except for what the internet tells you, let me know where you live so I can sponsor some refugees to live near you or contribute to a mosque (I'll donate a $100 in your name) you can learn something. Radical Islam (Salafist etc) doesn't scare me because our western, pluralist culture is stronger, our women contribute to society in a meaningful way, they just can't compete, economically or socially we are going to steamroll them into history. Get worried about something serious like Trump screwing with free trade, China, global warming, etc, because that will stuff your childrens's future not some dersh militia.  

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8 hours ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

Nothing civil about his discourse, lazy and without personal insight, on a par with children calling names. @ProDee @ethan @biffen @faulty there are as many deaths committed by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism  And as many insults as you throw I know three things, you are scared, and thats ok, not everyone gets to be brave, tolerance does not equal leftist (makes me chuckle at a silly attempt to put us in a box, being a racist has nothing to do with politics) and lastly FFS you have no idea about Islam except for what the internet tells you, let me know where you live so I can sponsor some refugees to live near you or contribute to a mosque (I'll donate a $100 in your name) you can learn something. Radical Islam (Salafist etc) doesn't scare me because our western, pluralist culture is stronger, our women contribute to society in a meaningful way, they just can't compete, economically or socially we are going to steamroll them into history. Get worried about something serious like Trump screwing with free trade, China, global warming, etc, because that will stuff your childrens's future not some dersh militia.  

Oh yes Daisy-the Christians did it. Why TF would you live in Rome then? What do you know about Islam oh great knowledgeable one. Go bash yourself in the head with something solid.

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26 minutes ago, Biffen said:

Oh yes Daisy-the Christians did it. Why TF would you live in Rome then? What do you know about Islam oh great knowledgeable one. Go bash yourself in the head with something solid.

you not very nice chap, Biffen....

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23 minutes ago, dieter said:

you not very nice chap, Biffen....

He knows three things........FMD.

One more than you.....

 

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11 hours ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

Nothing civil about his discourse, lazy and without personal insight, on a par with children calling names. @ProDee @ethan @biffen @faulty there are as many deaths committed by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism  And as many insults as you throw I know three things, you are scared, and thats ok, not everyone gets to be brave, tolerance does not equal leftist (makes me chuckle at a silly attempt to put us in a box, being a racist has nothing to do with politics) and lastly FFS you have no idea about Islam except for what the internet tells you, let me know where you live so I can sponsor some refugees to live near you or contribute to a mosque (I'll donate a $100 in your name) you can learn something. Radical Islam (Salafist etc) doesn't scare me because our western, pluralist culture is stronger, our women contribute to society in a meaningful way, they just can't compete, economically or socially we are going to steamroll them into history. Get worried about something serious like Trump screwing with free trade, China, global warming, etc, because that will stuff your childrens's future not some dersh militia.  

I worked in the Middle East... 

I was present when a 16 year old girl was sentenced to death by an Islamic court for having a boyfriend. She was hung in public. 

I’m not worried about Islamic terrorists, I’ve actually done my bit in helping eradicate the world of them. Probably while you were safe at home, being a warrior from behind your keyboard. Clearly you don’t know three things. 

Fortunately there’s no Mosques in my area so no need to donate. 

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1 hour ago, ProDee said:

What a lovely sight in the streets of Lakemba today.

Hundreds of Muslims could been seen praying on the ground outside the Lakemba Mosque in front of a TV screen

im just home and having a quick look on my phone but i don't understand. Is this a picture of the Eid festival or something? Why are you posting it? Am i missing something or is it just a photo of people praying? 

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21 minutes ago, Jara said:

Thanks When was it?  

And i suppose it might be difficult to say but what did you mean "you've done your bit" in fighting terrorism? 

2004. Obviously only one example. They do a great job at keeping out the media and outside world. 

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6 hours ago, Biffen said:

Oh yes Daisy-the Christians did it. Why TF would you live in Rome then? What do you know about Islam oh great knowledgeable one. Go bash yourself in the head with something solid.

read the thread muppet, a truck load more than you. I live in Rome because it's the HQ of my organization and i am very glad to say your tax dollars pay my salary, thanks biffen (assuming you earn enough to pay tax).

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