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From Today's Age....... The topic heading contains my thoughts

"But, assuming the club doesn't have a dramatic turnaround and it doesn't win more than four games this year, the Blues should also apply to the AFL for special assistance in the form of a priority draft pick. The AFL, based on the slightly vague criteria established for priority picks, should give Carlton an extra selection inside the top 20 in the national draft, with one important caveat."

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/why-the-blues-need-an-afl-hand-out-20180525-p4zhh6.html

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For those too young to recall, the clear sentiment on here around 2011/12, when we applied, was that if Melbourne of that era didn't qualify for a priority pick, no-one ever would. So just get rid of the pretence of having them. Then Brisbane, who'd played finals only a few years before, got given one the following year.

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They’ll trade it with GWS for some top up players. 

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They need what the AFL gave us - parachute in proper leadership.

That's what turned us around, not picks.

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5 minutes ago, Allus Monk said:

For those too young to recall, the clear sentiment on here around 2011/12, when we applied, was that if Melbourne of that era didn't qualify for a priority pick, no-one ever would. So just get rid of the pretence of having them. Then Brisbane, who'd played finals only a few years before, got given one the following year.

If the same test is applied to Carlton that was applied to us, then the Blues have no chance.  We were denied on the basis that we had good prospects for improvement on our list that were either too young to have had an impact or were injured - such as Mitch Clark.

The Blue are constantly raving about their quality young list and that it's just a matter of time... I don't think they can have it both ways.

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Surely the AFL wouldn't award a priority pick to a club who clearly tanked?

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3 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Surely the AFL wouldn't award a priority pick to a club who clearly tanked?

Exactly. 

They traded out their stars for picks, so they can't put their hand out for a priority pick when they've chosen to go with youth.  

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The Blues are/were until recently a power club,  the AFL will be far more likely to help them than a club like us.

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On 5/25/2018 at 3:59 PM, Diamond_Jim said:

From Today's Age....... The topic heading contains my thoughts

"But, assuming the club doesn't have a dramatic turnaround and it doesn't win more than four games this year, the Blues should also apply to the AFL for special assistance in the form of a priority draft pick. The AFL, based on the slightly vague criteria established for priority picks, should give Carlton an extra selection inside the top 20 in the national draft, with one important caveat."

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/why-the-blues-need-an-afl-hand-out-20180525-p4zhh6.html

So they're list managing again,,, and they want a priority pick on top of that as well.

In one of the strongest drafts that's been.

Not on your nelly, blues.

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Remembering of course that Melbourne's grand total priority pick 'haul' was pick 1 and pick 18.

That's for a period of 9 years with a total of 45 wins. That's just 5 wins a year despite including the brief false dawn of the two 8-win seasons.

So all but one of Carlton's recent seasons (2014, 4 wins) has been better than our average result over 9 years.

But we all know this, and we all know that the notion that Carlton can't attract players is a fallacy given that half their list is recycled high draft picks.

We also know they blatantly tanked and never got held to account for it, so they can get stuffed anyway.

One final extra note - Brisbane have had a much worse run of results over the last five years anyway, and a lot of that can be put to player retention problems. Should the fact that their team is actually having a proper crack at it and not being quite so embarrassingly flaccid count against them, when percentage earned by trying to play games out is even now the only thing putting them ahead of Carlton?

Jake Niall definitely gets a goose of the week award.

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8 minutes ago, Goffer said:

The Blues are/were until recently a power club,  the AFL will be far more likely to help them than a club like us.

Irrelevant for a long long time

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No one will ever get a priority pick if we couldn't get one in 2012.

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7 hours ago, Choke said:

They need what the AFL gave us - parachute in proper leadership.

That's what turned us around, not picks.

Exactly.

Give them one for all I care.

PP’s really do add SFA to the overall fortunes of a club. We’ve seen it time and time again.

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Blues problem .i'm afraid to say is their Coach. And i'm talking about strong, mature leadership, with an example based focus...

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Meanwhile we are 3rd on the ladder, and Carlton...well, hows the weather down there......da, da, da, da...

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It's Carlton.  They get special rules just for them.  Bonus Friday night games, priority picks, immunity from investigation even when one of their coaches comes out and says they tanked to get Kreuzer... 

I wouldn't be surprised if they wound up with the top three picks this year. 

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9 hours ago, Choke said:

They need what the AFL gave us - parachute in proper leadership.

That's what turned us around, not picks.

Yep, I agree.

Bring back John Elliott! 

 

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I thought clubs were supposed to 'earn' prime time games. With the Blues getting all these Friday night spots surely they aren't going too bad?

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Murphy will leave as a FA and they will get band 1 compensation giving them pick 2 anyway. 

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On 5/26/2018 at 4:13 AM, olisik said:

Murphy will leave as a FA and they will get band 1 compensation giving them pick 2 anyway. 

Couldn't see him being offered a large enough contract to justify anything approaching a top 2 pick for a bloke who will start next season as a 31 year old.

No actually, it's the AFL. I can see a top 2 pick for sure.

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11 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

If the same test is applied to Carlton that was applied to us, then the Blues have no chance.  We were denied on the basis that we had good prospects for improvement on our list that were either too young to have had an impact or were injured - such as Mitch Clark.

The Blue are constantly raving about their quality young list and that it's just a matter of time... I don't think they can have it both ways.

My recollection is that we were last denied for two reasons, one official and one less so. The first, publicly discussed, was that we'd had a number of close games in 2014, and so were adjudged competitive with some decent young prospects. The second, was that despite it adhering to the AFL free agency formula, our compo for Frawley was deemed sufficient reward, and it would have been a bad look for the league if we were awarded a bonus pick on top.  Mostly, in my mind, it was Roos and co going through the motions to secure concessions in other areas, but 2013 should have been the year - and if we didn't deserve one then, then the bar has been raised to a serious degree. Still, I couldn't care less if the Blues get one or not. 

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If Carlton gets preferential treatment by way of a priority pick at the end of the year it will be the final proof of corruption at the top of the AFL.

We've already been lied to about clubs having to earn those coveted and valuable Friday night fixtures through good performances by virtue of the fact that Carlton has been given heaps of them this year despite finishing 16th in 2017.

So if you have to establish a case with the AFL to get special consideration over a number of years then how can one club be considered favourably for draft assistance in the same year that it received the honour of a swag of Friday night games? 

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3 hours ago, Skuit said:

My recollection is that we were last denied for two reasons, one official and one less so. The first, publicly discussed, was that we'd had a number of close games in 2014, and so were adjudged competitive with some decent young prospects. The second, was that despite it adhering to the AFL free agency formula, our compo for Frawley was deemed sufficient reward, and it would have been a bad look for the league if we were awarded a bonus pick on top.  Mostly, in my mind, it was Roos and co going through the motions to secure concessions in other areas, but 2013 should have been the year - and if we didn't deserve one then, then the bar has been raised to a serious degree. Still, I couldn't care less if the Blues get one or not. 

I reckon it was getting g fined for not tanking. AFL would've looked stupid and had lots of club kick back if they then handed us a PP.

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5 hours ago, Skuit said:

My recollection is that we were last denied for two reasons, one official and one less so. The first, publicly discussed, was that we'd had a number of close games in 2014, and so were adjudged competitive with some decent young prospects. The second, was that despite it adhering to the AFL free agency formula, our compo for Frawley was deemed sufficient reward, and it would have been a bad look for the league if we were awarded a bonus pick on top.  Mostly, in my mind, it was Roos and co going through the motions to secure concessions in other areas, but 2013 should have been the year - and if we didn't deserve one then, then the bar has been raised to a serious degree. Still, I couldn't care less if the Blues get one or not. 

We asked in 2013 as well.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-23/afl-denies-melbourne-demons-priority-pick/4976082

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